Airplane on fire at SFO airport. Hope they all survived.

[Beef Jerky]

A Boeing 777 operated by Asiana Airlines crashed while landing at San Francisco International Airport Saturday afternoon.
The Federal Aviation Administration said the plane was arriving from Seoul and it was not clear how many people were on board.
There was no immediate word on any casualties or injuries.

The plane appeared to have lost its tail during landing. Heavy smoke was seen billowing from the aircraft as fire crews fought the blaze with foam and water.
Inflatable emergency slides have been deployed, but it’s not clear if all passengers managed to get out. Parts of the airplane’s roof are either missing or charred.
Randal Porter witnessed the crash landing from his seat on another plane that was about to take off.

Porter said the Asiana Airlines flight did not appear to be in trouble at first, but then he saw thick smoke coming from the plane. From his vantage point, it looked like the plane had flipped at one point.
“
Basically, everything is at a standstill now,” Porter told CTV News Channel.
He said he saw a number of fire trucks around the damaged plane, but no ambulances.
Asiana Airlines is a major South Korean airline that operates throughout Asia, Europe and North America.

A Boeing 777 plane can seat anywhere between about 300 and 450 passengers, depending on the model.
Kevin Hiatt, president and CEO of the Flight Safety Foundation, told News Channel Saturday that the Boeing 777 planes have an “excellent” safety record.
All flights have been halted at the San Francisco airport. Air Canada tweeted shortly after the announcement: “Travel Alert for July 6: San Francisco (SFO). Details, Flt Status & rebook online. Change fees waived: .”

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/boeing-777-plane-crash-lands-in-san-francisco-1.1356429

 

[Beef Jerky]

 

[Wise Guy]

Yikes, doesn't look good.

 

[Robintheboywonder]

That's why I don't like flying!

 

[Anonymous69]

Who will be suing who now?.

 

[Butch]

:don'twantto-see:/

 

[Curly]

I heard 3 have died so far.

 

[-b]

What upsets me that some survivors had their Carry On with them...
We all know we are to evacuate as fast has possible....

I think there should be a law charging people who does that...
Maybe by them getting their crap a person died......to me they had
no care for life of others.....

 

[Plucker]

I heard 3 have died so far.

5 dead now. CNN has another video.

https://www.cnn.com/

 

[oldguyzer]

Pilot error. Unfortunately.

 

[Madman]

Pilot error. Unfortunately.

Yes, they are claiming the pilot had never flown a Boeing 777 before. It was his ninth training flight and first time landing in SF.

Why on earth would they train a pilot with a loaded plane?

 

[oldguyzer]

Yes, they are claiming the pilot had never flown a Boeing 777 before. It was his ninth training flight and first time landing in SF.

Why on earth would they train a pilot with a loaded plane?

If they trained him on an unloaded flight there'd be no revenue :biggrin2:

Seriously, he had something like 40 hours...in the simulator, but very few in the seat (according to a report on CNN, I think it was). Dumb.

 

[Madman]

Seriously, he had something like 40 hours...in the simulator, but very few in the seat (according to a report on CNN, I think it was). Dumb.

That's sickening and I hope the airline is sued so badly they are put out of business!

I'm sure it's a case of cost cutting with no regard for safety.

 

[007]

Did you hear this one?.

[h=2]Dead Plane Crash Victim May Have Been Run Over by Fire Vehicle[/h]

 

[SillyGirl]

That's sickening and I hope the airline is sued so badly they are put out of business!

I'm sure it's a case of cost cutting with no regard for safety.

I don't know if foreign airlines are required to conform to FAA regulations regarding pilot training on different airplanes. I don't know what the FAA requirement is. But it does seem that if the airline were in compliance with whichever regulatory agency had jurisdiction, there would be no legal liability due to the training regimen.

One thing that did catch my attention was a report yesterday that there was software designed to assist with landings that was not turned on. Considering the pilot had never landed that model of aircraft at SFO before, it would seem prudent for them to have that software running, and to not do so seems negligent. Indeed, if the software has been thoroughly proven reliable, a case could be made that having it turned on would have prevented the crash. I think this is an area where there could be significant legal liability for the airline.

I'm also stunned by how late the pilots were in realizing they were in trouble. How does that happen? :dontknow:

 

[SillyGirl]

Why on earth would they train a pilot with a loaded plane?

Let's face it...at some point, every pilot will land a loaded model of every plane at every airport, for the first time. There is no way that doesn't happen.

 

[Cardinal Fang]

Let's face it...at some point, every pilot will land a loaded model of every plane at every airport, for the first time. There is no way that doesn't happen.

That's absolutely true. This pilot in question was very experienced on another model before moving to the Boeing 777. It's not uncommon for pilots with exceptional experience to move from one model jet to another. Ultimately they gain their experience by flying the planes. What I wonder is whether or not the airport shutting off the ILS (Instrument Landing System), which guides the auto pilot to land the plane at the foot of the runway had anything to do with this accident. The airport was doing runway repairs and had to shut it off. Not impossible to land a plane without it because many pilots did so before it was invented. But you have to wonder.

 

[SillyGirl]

That's absolutely true. This pilot in question was very experienced on another model before moving to the Boeing 777. It's not uncommon for pilots with exceptional experience to move from one model jet to another. Ultimately they gain their experience by flying the planes. What I wonder is whether or not the airport shutting off the ILS (Instrument Landing System), which guides the auto pilot to land the plane at the foot of the runway had anything to do with this accident. The airport was doing runway repairs and had to shut it off. Not impossible to land a plane without it because many pilots did so before it was invented. But you have to wonder.

I didn't realize the airport had shut it off, I thought it was the plane. I retract my previous theory about legal liability.

I still don't understand how it could have taken so long for the pilots to realize the trouble they were in. Reports are their airspeed was significantly below what it should have been...aren't there alarms for that sort of thing? Are they not monitoring that as part of a Landing checklist?

 

[SillyGirl]

Did you hear this one?.

Dead Plane Crash Victim May Have Been Run Over by Fire Vehicle

Yikes. That's sad.

 

[Prick]

Sorry, couldn't help myself. Just too funny.


Confirmed Pilots' names aboard flight:
Sum Ting Wong
Wi Tu Lo
Ho Lee Fuk
Bang Ding Ow