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Allegra and Emily (Muse)

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If you ladies would round up some great looking SP's and MPA's, take them with you and show these morons that nobody is forced or under 18, hopefully media would pick up on it and run with it.

This bill is going to push through if these Harperites aren't stopped cold in their tracks like the Gay community did when their bathhouses were raided.
 
It will take more than just two women although two very good advocates of the cause I'm sure to make a dent in the feminist and religious right propaganda machine that has started against the industry as a whole.

They will dismiss anyone within the industry as having a biased interest. They will not listen to anyone opposed to their abolitionist views.

They and they alone are the righteous elected people who are dead set on saving the poor little ladies from the evil white men.:-Cool/"

The discretion which is a big part of our industry be it for the ladies as well as us the clients (NOT JOHNS) is the albatross around our necks stopping us from mounting a good fight and these tea party loving lunatics know it!

HARPER YOU'RE NEXT in 2015 and I can't wait to see Steven, Joy and Peter out of government and hopefully completely out of politics.
 
Can't we drum up a few nuns in convents who may have been forced to be nuns. I'm sure not all of them want to be in there. I'm also sure you could find situations of abuse among the nuns in the convents. Let's bring out some of those as a counterpoint to the ladies in the sex trade who need saving. Hell, take it a step further, find some muslim women who are being forced into marriages they don't want with men they don't want to be with. Oh, that's right, you can't say anything about the muslims.


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As much as I would LOVE to put Harper, MacKay and Smith in their place, I'm afraid that we're going to have a hell of a time stopping this at the legislative level. Fortunately, Canada is still a constitutional democracy (much to Harper's chagrin, I'm sure) and there are other means for us to seek justice. Engaging these three moralistic morons in public debate just serves their purpose - they want us to appear angry because that's what appeals to their base.

Instead, we will seek to rectify this situation through the courts. If the Conservatives were interested in a public debate, they would have held one BEFORE tabling the legislation; now, it's basically a fait accompli that the legislation will pass through the House of Commons, probably in the identical format as it is now. Wasting energy and resources now would be ill-advised.

Better to save our best arguments for the nine people in this country best-suited to evaluate them - the nine justices of the Supreme Court, with whom our industry will hang in the balance. While I do appreciate the faith that you all have in Emily and I, you'll have to forgive us for sitting this one out. We must pick the battles we can win, rather than exposing ourselves to more potential problems by fighting battles we cannot.

In the meantime, please continue to support us the same way you've been doing over the past few years - by spending time with your favourite MPAs and SPs. We need your continued support more now than ever, because we'll need to keep our doors open while the fight goes through the courts. If too many SPs or agencies or MPs are forced to leave the business, that will mean that Harper has won - he'll have damaged the industry in a way that would make it hard for us to recover from. Please don't let the threat of these laws stop you from hobbying, because that's actually the biggest concern that we're currently facing.

~Allegra

P.S. There's a LOT of manoeuvering happening behind the scenes as we prepare our response - I promise you, neither the public nor Harper's drones have the slightest idea how capable we all are. This fight is FAR from over!


 
I think if 30 topless young women walked into the hall meeting holding signs up stating it's our body our choice it would make headlines.

It is legal for women to walk around topless because of a protest. We need protests in the streets with women chanting

"our bodies our choice"
 
P.S. There's a LOT of maneouvering happening behind the scenes as we prepare our response - I promise you, neither the public nor Harper's drones have the slightest idea how capable we all are. This fight is FAR from over!


A big thanks to you and Emily and all the other ladies fighting the good fight. May strength and courage and energy be yours as you continue this crusade.

And may the battle not be yours alone.

May there be men among us to stand by your side, to protect your back, to deflect the arrows, to act as friend.
 
Allegra is right, much more fight to come! Gentlemen, I love your support! Do what you Canto help! Speak up, write your MP's, media, everything! you have power of numbers. We are working our asses off too.
 
CBC is now saying that the Harper Government is Sexist....What I heard was about the Law they are passing plus about
the Harper Government not even appointing the Most Qualified Woman Judge to the Supreme Court...

Women are going to get involved.....Just wait the time is coming....Does not matter if if he is Married to a Suppose Femminist
the time is coming .....
 
On facebook the feminist along with Cassles who is annoying as fuck is deleting all the posts that are against their cause. Emily your good post is no where to be found. This is what the neocons ( Harper government ) thinks about democracy!
 
I'm shocked it was up as long as it was. Someone take screeshots!
 

P.S. There's a LOT of manoeuvering happening behind the scenes as we prepare our response - I promise you, neither the public nor Harper's drones have the slightest idea how capable we all are. This fight is FAR from over!



I sure hope so because 5 years is a long time to wait for another ruling in our favor.
 
I'm shocked it was up as long as it was. Someone take screeshots!

You are well spoken and know how to make a point. I read your posts and heard you on 640 the other night. You would have been an asset at the town hall tonight.
 
As much as I would LOVE to put Harper, MacKay and Smith in their place, I'm afraid that we're going to have a hell of a time stopping this at the legislative level. Fortunately, Canada is still a constitutional democracy (much to Harper's chagrin, I'm sure) and there are other means for us to seek justice. Engaging these three moralistic morons in public debate just serves their purpose - they want us to appear angry because that's what appeals to their base.

Instead, we will seek to rectify this situation through the courts. If the Conservatives were interested in a public debate, they would have held one BEFORE tabling the legislation; now, it's basically a fait accompli that the legislation will pass through the House of Commons, probably in the identical format as it is now. Wasting energy and resources now would be ill-advised.

Better to save our best arguments for the nine people in this country best-suited to evaluate them - the nine justices of the Supreme Court, with whom our industry will hang in the balance. While I do appreciate the faith that you all have in Emily and I, you'll have to forgive us for sitting this one out. We must pick the battles we can win, rather than exposing ourselves to more potential problems by fighting battles we cannot.

In the meantime, please continue to support us the same way you've been doing over the past few years - by spending time with your favourite MPAs and SPs. We need your continued support more now than ever, because we'll need to keep our doors open while the fight goes through the courts. If too many SPs or agencies or MPs are forced to leave the business, that will mean that Harper has won - he'll have damaged the industry in a way that would make it hard for us to recover from. Please don't let the threat of these laws stop you from hobbying, because that's actually the biggest concern that we're currently facing.

~Allegra

P.S. There's a LOT of manoeuvering happening behind the scenes as we prepare our response - I promise you, neither the public nor Harper's drones have the slightest idea how capable we all are. This fight is FAR from over!



Sorry, but that becomes impossible if we wait until this bill becomes law.
I can only speak for myself, but I'm sure I represent many.. I cannot afford to risk having a criminal record, or even being arrested.
If this bill becomes law, I will certainly abstain completely while the dust settles. If it becomes apparent that there is a real risk of being arrested (ie. it depends on how the law is enforced), I will have no choice but to quit completely.
 
Sorry, but that becomes impossible if we wait until this bill becomes law.
I can only speak for myself, but I'm sure I represent many.. I cannot afford to risk having a criminal record, or even being arrested.
If this bill becomes law, I will certainly abstain completely while the dust settles. If it becomes apparent that there is a real risk of being arrested (ie. it depends on how the law is enforced), I will have no choice but to quit completely.


We can't let these bastards think they've won although I completely understand where you're coming from. I do agree we also can't sit passively by while these religious wing nuts try and shove their morals down our throats.
 
You are well spoken and know how to make a point. I read your posts and heard you on 640 the other night. You would have been an asset at the town hall tonight.

Thank you. I was going to go, however, I got invited to speak with other media outlets today. I do a lot of media work. & I'm working to get the message out. Lots on the go on my end.
 
Thank you. I was going to go, however, I got invited to speak with other media outlets today. I do a lot of media work. & I'm working to get the message out. Lots on the go on my end.

What other media outlet?.
 
What other media outlet?.


Humble and Fred, I've heard Emily and a few of her ladies on the Humble and Fred show??

The turn out as shown here was very low.

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It's shameful a handful are people are going to dictate to us what our lifestyle should be.

It's shameful these same handful of people are going to be endangering our lovely ladies while ruining the lives of respectful clients.

It's shameful these same handful of people along with Joy Smith and Peter Mackay are twisting the data to suit their purposes!

It's shameful they are claiming prostitutes start at the age of 13, WHAT THEY ARE NOT TELLING YOU IT IS WHEN THESE LADIES HAD THEIR FIRST SEXUAL NON COMMERCIAL ENCOUNTER!

I've never ever came across anyone under age!

It's shameful we have people who bring in their religion and moral high ground into government.

IT IS SHAMEFUL they keep claiming it is for the protection of Aboriginal women. Please tell me if and when the Police force is going to walk into a reservation to arrest a "JOHN"?

GIVE ME A BLOODY BREAK!!
 
It's obvious not everyone is able to be open and out about their industry activities. I'm fairly out, but I still maintain a barrier between my hobby self and my public self. Still, there are ways to help, even if discretely. Donate to Maggie's (even through a proxy), writing to your MP, challenging people's assumptions in casual conversations, participating in newspaper surveys, starting an anonymous blog or Twitter that is pro-decrim, even maybe give an anonymous interview to a journalist or two.

There are ways we can, and should, get involved. We're not johns. We're clients.
 
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