Are SP prices coming down?

[blackram]

Noticed that there are two parallel threads going in both red boards about escort prices having come down in recent times. I personally have not noticed this, but then again, I tend to stick with some regulars who were always a little lower priced than average because of discounts. But have any of you guys noticed that prices have come down?

Client-centred thread:

Escort-centred thread: https://tinyurl.com/n9f2jea

You can pretty much guess which board is hosting which thread. :biggrin2:

 

[mmad]

On the MA side, I can't say I've noticed prices coming down but I am now more particular about how much I spend for a session. I've foregone the $160-180/hr MAs and my one old time favourite, Megan, who I haven't seen in nearly 2 years! She's now charging $220/hr, wtf ??

I guess because I'm usually happy with a hj, (very happy) I have my favourites that will only do hj and in fact my two top ones don't even do topless (Mai & Aranda). Mai is $120 for an amazing hour and Aranda is $80 for a great massage and a nice hj. On the higher end, I've seen Alma (way beyond my usual stuff :biggrin2 who charges T*ERB members $140/hr.

My Asian fallback is Wendy at A&D on St-Joseph and that's $120/hr.

I got a confidential deal at a top end club (I'm not supposed to mention it's CMJ) for $140/hr but I'm supposed to visit twice a month. Haven't been there since February! I think I'd return to ALO regularly if I had this same offer but it's hard to follow all their specials.... Happy Hour, before 10 am, after 8pm, VIP card and all that stuff. Too complicated and I need to know that the MA isn't getting screwed by my discount. At CMJ, the MA gets $100 for an hour massage and the balance goes to the house. Usually that's $80 but in my case $40. Need the same understanding at ALO and/or Angels-Paradise !! Then if Maya worked days I'd be in heaven :biggrin2:

My 2 cents.

 

[blackram]

Yeah, at both ALO and Angels/Paradise, the discounts come only from the house fee. You will have to negotiate a separate discount with the girl herself.

I am now getting a hankering to try out Alma once again. Didn't do so well with her scheduling last time.

Just listing my FS providers, it looks like the vast majority of them are now in the overall $120 range: Marianne, SabrinaR, and now Lori. Lily from Studio Illona is $100 for FS. I also know one who does FS for $80, who is Anne formerly of Studio 2000. I haven't seen Anne in quite some time, as the last time I was there with her, I came away with a torn rotator cuff, & pulled tendons! Not good when you're supposedly going over for a massage, and you end up with more pain. Anne has only one mode of operation: Dodge RAM stump-pulling power.

 

[mmad]

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Yeah, at both ALO and Angels/Paradise, the discounts come only from the house fee. You will have to negotiate a separate discount with the girl herself.

Have you negotiated a $40 door fee at either one for an hour?

 

[blackram]

Have you negotiated a $40 door fee at either one for an hour?

Nope, so far I have gotten a $40 for 45 minutes at ALO, and $60 for 1 hour at Angels/Paradise. To me, anything over 30 minutes is plenty of time. Actually with 1 hour, I'm sometimes not even sure what we could be doing for so long. For example, with Lori, recently we were both hot and sweaty and lying in each other's arms exhausted and I looked down at my watch and we were barely more than 20 minutes there!

I was thinking of possibly getting Gina from Vibe spa to get me a discount there, but I'm not sure if she has that kind of influence. Besides, she's pregnant and taking time off at the moment. Also I've never so explicitly asked for a discount for myself, I normally just drop a hint with the owner. But I don't know the owner of Vibe, and I was under the impression that Gina was a manager there.

 

[Ryan1967]

I think if you are ready to roll the dice on BP yes, there are deals to be had, I see many ads for 100/160, which is below the norm, but no established providers are operating at that price point from what I can see. Having dabbled in both worlds I see an MA session as a quick relief, I expect a rudimentary massage (anything better is a bonus) and a manual release, I also will no longer pay more than $100-$120 for 30 mins (Alma was $110 when I saw her). I have come to realize that I really don't want FS at a MA session, when I want to go for FS I wnt a full on GFE session, no massage table, no pretenses about a massage. For that, I have spent as little as $160 for a crappy session, but the memorable (repeatable) ones are usually in the $250 range.

 

[blackram]

My experiences with paying more to get more have been quite different. I've often found that paying more doesn't correlate to better service. Now, I know I'm mostly a massage guy now, and I really haven't used the services of an escort regularly in 20 years (the last one I could think of was Annessa, mainly because I saw her as a stripper previously), but when I did use them more often, I found it made no difference if I paid more. In fact, I found that the cheaper girls were more fun, and they were the ones I became regular with.

It's not that I got a fundamental problem with paying more (though it sometimes looks that way), but really in my early formative years, I found that the quality had nothing to do with the money. It's also why I only stick with massage these days, because I find that escorts think they can charge more because they're providing more services, but really I get all of the same GFE/PSE services with massage girls. They usually don't charge much extra for the additional activity either. They provide the basic massage services for the pay, and they provide the additional services for free because they too are having a good time.

 

[Ryan1967]

I agree that quality does not always in linear proportion to cost, but it just so happens that from my experiences it is. As for an MA session morphing into a GFE/PSE session, I have tried to do that (with only one mind you, Loraine) and it was an epic fail, yes she provided all of the "services" (some kissing, I would call LFK, DATY, CBJ) but it was just so mechanical that I wished I hadn't. Nothing against Loraine, have seen her several times, but I should have stuck with simple (50$) HJ finish. What I look for in a session is a no holds barred make out session (Annessa was awesome for that) followed by a lot of foreplay, various positions, bj and daty, then FS. Have seen several MA's and not one seemed up for that kind of session, there was always a massage pretense (which is fine...that is there business). At one point in time I was developing a bit of a rapport with Michaella and she started a session with "do you want to just play" (vs. the whole pretend massage business) so I suppose it is out there so I guess with regulars the sessions can morph into something different, perhaps I just don't have the patience to become regular enough for the metamorphosis to occur. Michaella had other irritating tendencies so I I stopped seeing her, plus her regular prices (130/180) were steep for me, I only ever saw her when she was running a special (100/160), she loved to makeout and allowed digits, but the finish was still an HJ. I think others would get oral and pretty sure she allowed daty. She also runs with Claire Heavens, who is a total coke head, so I became a bit less interested.

Maybe I need to trek out to the far ends of the Universe and see SabrinaR or GreekMaya at AT/Paradise.

 

[Skinflute]

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Lily from Studio Illona is $100 for FS

That's your price, my price is $140 with door fee but I get a BBBJ as well :biggrin2:

 

[blackram]

That's your price, my price is $140 with door fee but I get a BBBJ as well :biggrin2:

Well, I don't also get the bbbj with my FS from MILF Lily. It's one of the few girls who don't throw in the BBBJ with the FS. But I suppose I'm happy because I get a $100 FS, and she's actually got a strong professional massage (no pretence here).

 

[blackram]

As for an MA session morphing into a GFE/PSE session, I have tried to do that (with only one mind you, Loraine) and it was an epic fail, yes she provided all of the "services" (some kissing, I would call LFK, DATY, CBJ) but it was just so mechanical that I wished I hadn't. Nothing against Loraine, have seen her several times, but I should have stuck with simple (50$) HJ finish.

It's probably just a matter of style differences between us, but I think Loraine has specific way of being turned on. I think she wants to be taken control of to a certain extent. She does seem to lie there, and it does take a fairly long time to get her to start moaning a little bit. It's never outright porno-style fake moaning, just some more relaxed breathing. That's when you know she's starting to enjoy it. She will rarely get to full orgasm in the hour that you're there, but she'll get close enough. It's probably from all of the MJ that she smokes, but she probably suffers a bit from what we'd call erectile dysfunction when it happens in men. But it really doesn't matter if she gets to full orgasm, if she's just half way there, then she'll start responding less mechanically.

As for Claire Heavens, I've stayed away from her all of this time, and there's no way I'm gonna try her now. She has a pimp boyfriend too. Lori told me (through Lilly) that this pimp tried to shake down a customer she brought home once. So cokehead or not, she's trouble.