IN-Call aspen @ Mirage

[truedat]

darfus. You are right. Cant make everyone happy. The issue is threatening me with bodily harm as one of the previous posters suggested. no one told him he iis wrong.

anyway. If you dont like something just dont comment. I see so much stuff on here i know is plain out wrong or disturbing. I keep my mouth shut. I dont rip into other members.

Ill leave all the older members to keep on bashing me.

Peace out

 

[Brad Pitt]

Actually, truedat could please almost everyone. Most don't mind the lack of sugar coating, brad included. What is being objected to is the perception that truedat is a bit callous in his treatment of sp's. So truedat, maybe just address that and dig yourself out of the hole a bit, and it ain't that deep a hole really, because most are also seeing that you may have over-stated things a bit.

 

[Beenthere123]

darfus. You are right. Cant make everyone happy. The issue is threatening me with bodily harm as one of the previous posters suggested. no one told him he iis wrong.

anyway. If you dont like something just dont comment. I see so much stuff on here i know is plain out wrong or disturbing. I keep my mouth shut. I dont rip into other members.

Ill leave all the older members to keep on bashing me.

Peace out

Fine peace out out of respect to Kirk. old man here.

 

[truedat]

honestly. I am done with posting in public . Ill keep my reviews in terms of private messages to other members.

Brad i am calous. I like being in charge with the sp and directing the action. I have ahigh maintenance 22 gf who is pretty much in charge and has me by the balls. i am getting something from the sp i cantget in my relationship. The sp aspen was okay with the session. She kissed me goodbye and told me to comeback. Would a girl who had a bad session do that? And btw i did not complain about her infact i did recommed her.


What the hell is wrong with this place. do you loose your testicles when you get older?

 

[thetank]

Thanks for the review Truedat. I have appreciated your reviews in the past, and have enjoyed reading them. I like your blunt style and honesty. You don't sugar-coat and I respect that.

I am sure that you feel attacked by the many posts in this thread, and not unjustly. Harsh words and attacks get people's backs up, and turn many posters off . . . even the ones who aren't involved in the back and forth.

I agree with a lot of what was said in this thread.

I appreciated the review.

I totally agreed with the points of "concern" raised by the formum members.

I understood and listened to Truedat's explanations (Thanks for that by the way. Some guys would have just went silent).

What I can't agree with, is the language and blatant attacks that I see. These only breed bad blood, and make lurkers less likely to contribute.

Can't we haggle with one another without the language and attacks? I wanted to challenge Truedat's review details as well, but the direct attacks don't really achieve a lot long-term for the thread or the board.

By the way . . . long nose or not . . . I am TOTALLY going to fuck Aspen again. She has that innocence about her that his tank can't get enough of.

thetank

 

[elassowipo1]

Some of the attacks directed against the OP are unnecessary.

truedat may be brutally honest but that is a poor reason to flame/crucify him. The information he posts is generally accurate and there is some real value to his reviews.

If there is any misconduct or inaccuracy on the OP's part, I'm sure the agency would have responded.

truedat - I encourage you to stay the course, you can't expect to or try to please everyone.

 

[Bear669]

Check it out- its called the BDSM Forum

Check it out- its called the BDSM Forum

honestly. I am done with posting in public.

Not much loss

Ill keep my reviews in terms of private messages to other members.

Brad i am calous

Honesty appreciated

. I like being in charge with the sp and directing the action

Yo! Me too!:happy:

. I have ahigh maintenance 22 gf who is pretty much in charge

Why?

and has me by the balls

Head over to the group therapy thread. Seriously- admitting this takes a pair- but explains pretty much everything

. i am getting something from the sp i cantget in my relationship. The sp aspen was okay with the session. She kissed me goodbye and told me to comeback. Would a girl who had a bad session do that?

Excellent point- probably not, BUT it depends how desperate she is for $ and clients. Why leave this out of the review?

And btw i did not complain about her infact i did recommend her.

What the hell is wrong with this place

Nothing at all sonny. There IS a BDSM forum. You do NOT seem(?) to want a PSE, but a very submissive SP who agrees in advance to brutality and humiliation:twisted:. Respect the SAFE WORD and go for it

. do you loose

YES! They hang lower, and lower! Fuck I hate it. When I get my fortune back, its plastic surgery for me:gasp:

your testicles when you get older?

:go:

 

[Lou Siffer]

truedat, it seems that maybe the overall tone of your session with Aspen may not have been as bad as I interpreted from your original review. If that's the case, I apologize for anything insulting.

I don't know that I've read any of your other reviews. From this single review, it does seem that you are looking for a different type of experience than Aspen is likely to be good at providing and I disagree with the approach that if you keep trying sometimes they loosen up. In my experience, if you keep trying to pursue services that an SP is not comfortable with, you are likely to get your mileage reduced and have a bad session. As I said earlier, I feel bad for the ladies who have to put up with that type of behaviour.

As one of those "old farts" who like to fuck 20 year olds and make you sick, I am learning that there are some ladies out there who do enjoy a rougher PSE style encounter. Some of those ladies have been reviewed and others are not so well publicized for fear of attracting clients who are looking for a rougher scenario than they are willing to give. It can be a very fine line.

If that is the kind of session you want, then you should definitely do some research and go get it. A session with a willingly submissive lady providing full PSE services and some rough play would be vey hot.

I would be very happy to read that review.

 

[JackassJack]

do you loose your testicles when you get older?

LMAO!!!!

OP has to ask some of the member's approval before he books a SP? or how he should screw her? Geezzz!!! Grow up people! HE PAYS THE SESSION and If SP has a problem with what he wants, then she will not do it

OP posted totally honest review, so what? Do you guys tell everything you do with in your sessions???? How many of you did something made the SP uncomfortable??? All of you! but you dont tell that in your reviews.

OP had the balls to say it, so good for him!

Don't be a sissy boy truedat!!! Keep posting your reviews.

 

[Emperor]

To all members:

Please, we are a new and clean board and do not want to become a nasty one. You all have your opinions but keep it constructive with logic and intellect comments. We want to maintain the same level of calmness and good nature that has allowed us to grow.

Thank you for your cooperating.

Emperor.

 

[Bear669]

Sorry Sonny, ya dont know Jack

Sorry Sonny, ya dont know Jack

LMAO!!!!

OP has to ask some of the member's approval before he books a SP? or how he should screw her? Geezzz!!! Grow up people! HE PAYS THE SESSION and If SP has a problem with what he wants, then she will not do it

Where did you get strange idea? Many SPs do things they hate i) desperate for $ ii) afraid of agency owner iii)Afraid of client iv) Not really afraid, just taking the easiest way to get some asshole out the door. TD is lucky, I know several SPs that by the 2nd DFK attempt and certainly the choking would have buried a lamp stand in his skull and shoved a dresser up his ass.

OP posted totally honest review, so what?

Love the honesty. Wrong place, wrong SP

Do you guys tell everything you do with in your sessions???? How many of you did something made the SP uncomfortable??? All of you!

Tsk Tsk. Speak for yourself Jack. Feeling guilty?

but you dont tell that in your reviews.
OP had the balls to say it

No. actually he says his GF has his balls!

so good for him! Don't be a sissy boy truedat!!! Keep posting your reviews.

And do get those balls back from the GF.:slap:

For the record, I HAVE done many things to make SPs unconfortable. I STOP when they tell me (and I ask frequently), I stop when the body language is obviously negative. I AVOID the situation by reading reviews, sites, and ASKING in advance.
Bless 'em, I know damn well my ATFs have pushed themselves past the point of comfort for me- they are proud and determined to get the Old Bear off, even when the pacemaker is redlining. I often give up before they do.
And I am also told from time to time that I am not pounding/slapping/biting/hurting enough (I tryarty. It is NOT difficult to match up with the right SP.​

 

[GDLLover]

One thing that should be remembered here, most of the ladies read these reviews. Being her, how would you feel about being talked about like this?

As far as the older member being disgusting, the important thing here is the ladies will be the first to say looks are secondary, most importantly they want to be treated with respect. With age guys tend to get more respectful, this is why some SPs put a minimum age limit to their customers.

 

[pumping iron]

darfus. You are right. Cant make everyone happy. The issue is threatening me with bodily harm as one of the previous posters suggested. no one told him he iis wrong.


Peace out

I have noticed the mods banned detective. Good move, like truedat's style or hate him he does write honest reviews. I for one benefit from them even though he should stick to pse girls to avoid this kind of arguments.

 

[Bear669]

Not quite...

Not quite...

I have noticed the mods banned Detective. Good move, like truedat's style or hate him he does write honest reviews. I for one benefit from them even though he should stick to pse girls

Aside from the fact that GFE/PSE have become almost meaningless:neutral: since the interpretation of the terms is all over the map-as I suggested above, OP likely needs to find BDSM submissives.

to avoid this kind of arguments.

:go:

 

[Beenthere123]

Guys leave the guy alone. We had our say so time to move on but really looking forward to his next review. Truedat hurry up the suspense is killing me.

 

[smylee52]

Brad i am calous. I like being in charge with the sp and directing the action. I have ahigh maintenance 22 gf who is pretty much in charge and has me by the balls.

What the hell is wrong with this place. do you loose your testicles when you get older?

It seems like you won't have to wait to find out .

Attacking members based on age is not a good idea .

 

[oyster shucker]

It seems like you won't have to wait to find out .

Attacking members based on age is not a good idea .

In fact most girls prefer clients to be 35 and older, for this exact reason. MATURITY and CLASS.

 

[truedat]

In fact most girls prefer clients to be 35 and older, for this exact reason. MATURITY and CLASS.

Oyster. I guess I do not fall into that "older" category so I lack maturity and class. your comments and constant criticism is going to drive people away from posting as some have already pm'd me. A number of other members have pm'd me and have stated that I should continue posting my honest reviews which is very helpful to them. If I were you Oyster if you have nothing constructive to say, I would not say anything at all.

Regarding the age issue: I do find it highly disturbing and perverse that some older gentlemen are engaged in service with girls half or less than half their age. It really makes me sick. But then again who am I to comment and rip the members here. It is my personal opinion nothing more.

My statement regarding the testicles was this: It seems like some of the older guys here are sexually less adventurous. perhaps they are not stating all the details but if I offended anyone, accept my apologies.

I have seen a few more sp's but will review them this week. Too drunk and sleepy right now.

 

[truedat]

Olyda - why are you causing drama?

Olyda - why are you causing drama?

Dude, I've been meaning to say this for awhile. A lot of your posts simply offend me. Not to mention the video you posted. There's a general theme of misogyny verging on humiliation.

You don't give a shit about getting to know each other a bit? You were hurting her in mish and you didn't care??

Weird that you didn't get great service, huh ? I'd suggest that you tone it down or just keep it off the board. Maybe I'm alone on this...whatever, I don't give a shit.

O

Olyda, your posts also annoy me a lot. I disagree with your assessment a lot of the time, but I keep my mouth shut. I suggest that if you do not like something you should just move on. Stop stirring things up. This thread would have been okay until you have to put our negative comments. And btw my review was in no way negative.

 

[HOF]

I had a pre-confirmed appointment with Independent Leslie who is PSE but she flaked on me. So I was in a bind to bang. I called up mirage and they had aspen available. I was considering 1/2 hour or an hour and I chose 1/2 hour because of some average reviews.

The location was nice and clean. Upon entering the location I was a bit surprised to see Aspen as I was expecting something else. Aspen is more meditteranian with dyed blonde hair. Her skin tone is more representative of italian/greek/spanish. I believe she is a natural brunette and I think she would look much better being a brunette rather than bleeching her hair blonde. She is a good looking girl but I would not do the double take. She has good features but one huge drawback during kissing was that her nose is very long and gets in the way. You're a real class individual and you wonder why you didn't click or why you're getting hammered here?

After a quick shower, I wanted to get down to business. I generally do not want to talk and can care less about where the girl is from and what they do. I am there for one thing and that is to get my jizz on. Fair comment, but 5 minutes of small talk may get you further. You just want to use her a receptical.

I went in for some DFK but got rejected and ended up having some LFK and that was very very sporatic. I could get a sense that she did not like DFK so I kept on trying to try and crack her but to no avail. Hmmm, is there any wonder why you got rejected by her. No means no. Maybe, you're in the bad client list?

Her body is okay with some stretch marks on her breasts and they are slightly larger which may cause some stretching with gravity causing the stretch marks. She is not toned or small like a spinner. She has some fat but you can tell she sucks in her gut and can loose some fat in certain areas or can use some lipsuction. Stretch marks and fat and could use liposuction, you're everygirls dream boy.

I then asked her for a BBBJ and she proceeded to go at it which was okay. I then asked for 69 and she said no. I then started with digits where she told me NO digits allowed, slight touching of the clit but NO to digits. I like digits because I usually never perform DATY. Maybe, she just wasn't comfortable with you at all.

Then I switched to CG where she was riding me well. I then switched to missionary where I love to pound away. I always have a watch on me to see how long it takes me to finish and I must have gone for a good 20 minutes in missionary before I finished (please note I was pounding her very hard and she did seem a bit uncomfortable with the intensity of thrusting, but whatever). I tried to use her neck as a support but she did not like it because of the choking possibility. She told you no digits, 20min pounding her and you sensed she was uncomfortable, Whatever! Possible choking scenario. Yes, you're a bad client.

She is pretty tight which I love. I ended up finishing in missionary which is a surprise because I usually finish with a HJ or BBBJ. Restrictions are No DFK, CIM, COF, CIMSW, DSOF or anything kinky like DT or choking. Everything is YMMV

Looks: 7/10 - this is subjective - she has a long nose and for you guys that like latin women she is for you

Body: 8/10 - subjective - she gets an extra point for having a tight kitty or else it would be a 7, her breasts are slightly larger producing a more teardrop effect rather than being circular. She is a bit larger than the girls I like. If she's large what do like grade 7/8s

Personality: 7/10 - she is nice but I did not click with her - she is new to the industry and is not that comfortable in her role as a sp but her kitty is very tight

Service: 7/10 - She is mildly GFE, no PSE at all, NO 69, COF, CIM, CIMSW, DSOF or DFK

Repeat: No - just because I like more of a PSE She probably doesn't want to repeat with you either.

Recommend: Yes - that kitty is very tight and all you guys need to try it out

Damage: 1/2 hour = $160+20 tip

This is the first time I did not rock out with a girl from Mirage. The girls at mirage are generally very very good.

Truedat Post #11: regarding the previous posters. she never said verbally she is uncomfortable. If someone made it verbally clear they are uncomfortable i would never go against their wishes. That being said i have a gf that does not want to perform these pse options. That is why i hobby. It seems that instead of learning from eachother i am getting flamed because of the type of reviews i post and my taste for pse. I am going to stop posting and just be a bystander. No point dealing with people that have different opinions.
NONVERBAL COMMUNICATION is just as acceptable and did you think of asking if she was okay? Priceless, your girlfriend will not perform these PSE options for you, and I believe you had said that she was 22? Maybe, it's just your approach to all of it? Oh yes, you did say that your girlfriend had you by the balls. Are you not man enough to confront her about that and discuss your PSE needs. Maybe, it's you that needs to grow a pair. My old balls are just fine!

Now For My thoughts.
I will simply point out to the OP that nowhere in Aspen's bio does it state she is a pse lady! Ask yourself, How did you enter and present to her? Did you do anything that may have creeped her out?

I will certainly agree with you that DETECTIVE was in the wrong for making threats even idle ones, and he's been dealt with by the board.
Someday, you may have children, a daughter perhaps, who would you react if she told you her boyfriend did this to her? How would you react if a man showed up at your door, claiming your son mistreated his daughter? Just asking.

As for us Dirty Ole Bastards, well, I don't have children, nor do I have a wife. This is all so convenient and uncomplicated for me. There have been a few lacking encounters oh well on my part, live and learn.

As for your knee-jerk reaction to not posting or going to the other boards, that is your perrogative. Your information is important it's your presentation that could use fine-tuning. Negative reviews are always welcome; nasty reviews aren't called for. There are ways to write a negative review constructively.