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[ROBERTSON]

until the conservatives live up their name and start working on conserving our world, I can't vote for them.(ps. my parents were conservatives, but that was back before they become the big business party).

You mean like how Mr. Dress Up is pushing for a crude pipe line in the west.

How the Provincial Liberals paid for gas fired polluting electrical plants, twice.

How Wynn gave Billions to Samsung to increase our electricity cost to the highest in North America, for an unreliable system that produces 5% of our electricity generation, that "conserving our world" party.

And "The big business", that supports the teachers gold plated retirement, but still vote for the Libs.

Until the UN stops handing our money over to backward countries that introduce more CO2 into the atmosphere by clear cutting forests, than the co2 added by ALL forms of transportation combined.

And until Germany stops burning coal to produce electricity again, nobody except civil servants, and those employed in the "sky is falling" industry, are pushing for pie in the sky solutions.

 

[nntsci]

"sky is falling" industry"

And I suppose you think anti reality people like yourself with your economic sky will fall beliefs are any better, lol.

I suppose that if on mass humans are too stupid to pay attention to science, then human's don't deserve to survive the coming ecological and economic disasters that will result from human stupidity.

 

[ROBERTSON]

And I suppose you think anti reality people like yourself with your economic sky will fall beliefs are any better, lol.

I suppose that if on mass humans are too stupid to pay attention to science, then human's don't deserve to survive the coming ecological and economic disasters that will result from human stupidity.

I suppose anybody who votes for the Libs, like yourself, is already ignoring economics.

And I suppose that would also mean they believe in Fat Al's science, and Fat Al's "economics" behind said "science".

Example, Tories announcement that T.O is going to buy battery powered busses, because they don't pollute , I guess they are going recharge them all at night from electricity produced by wind mills that don't produce at night, THAT belief in a form of reality.

Or the they could recharge them from the polluting gas plants that we paid for twice, THAT kind of LIB reality.

 

[nntsci]

I suppose anybody who votes for the Libs, like yourself, is already ignoring economics.

I could lecture you for a few hours on economic theory... but I doubt very much you'd understand it given that you don't understand relatively simply basic science (like pollution is bad, lol). or even how windmills work for that matter. Whatever... go away... putting you on my ignore list.

 

[demien3k5]

I could lecture you for a few hours on economic theory... but I doubt very much you'd understand it given that you don't understand relatively simply basic science (like pollution is bad, lol). or even how windmills work for that matter. Whatever... go away... putting you on my ignore list.

Bet you couldn't given you apparently don't know the difference between being a conservative and being a conservationist as demonstrated in post #44. <rolls eyes>

 

[ROBERTSON]

I could lecture you for a few hours on economic theory... but I doubt very much you'd understand it given that you don't understand relatively simply basic science (like pollution is bad, lol). or even how windmills work for that matter. Whatever... go away... putting you on my ignore list.

You couldn't lecture me on how to fart, let alone economics, as you obviously vote Libs.

Yes pollution is bad, when are you going to stop polluting the soil and water.

OH, and on the "windmill" thing, as it seems you don't know that they don't work when there is no wind, like during most nights, maybe you should educate yourself, you definatly need to.

And another bit of information for YA, solar cells don't work to well at night either.

 

[Number13]

 

[blackram]

Although I don't agree with the Conservative stance on prostitution, I for one, will NOT be voting for Wynn or the socialists, because of one single issue, while ignoring all of the rest.

I cannot in good conscience vote for a big business party like the Conservatives. Anybody running a small business or less cannot vote for them. All of the advantages will go to the big corporations and none to regular businesses or individuals.

Can't give the vote to the Liberals either, they have been in too long and have gotten corrupt. So will be giving the NDP the vote this time.

 

[ROBERTSON]

I cannot in good conscience vote for a big business party like the Conservatives. Anybody running a small business or less cannot vote for them. All of the advantages will go to the big corporations and none to regular businesses or individuals.

Can't give the vote to the Liberals either, they have been in too long and have gotten corrupt. So will be giving the NDP the vote this time.

Maybe you could give us a few examples of what the advantages are that the Conservatives give to "big business", and not to "regular businesses or individuals".

And as far as the NDP go, as socialism is in their DNA, they are anti ALL private business, except unions of coarse.

 

[DILLIGAF]

@blackram
I don't know how old you are but I caution you vey strongly to think about your vote before you cast it.
I can remember very vividly when everyone was supposedly pissed of with the Fiberals and the PC's so a lot of people cast a vote for the NDP out of spite
Well guess what? We got a majority NDP government in the province of Ontario.
This decision ripped our province apart. Unemployment skyrocketed. 40,000 people in the construction industry alone were out of work. You could count the tower cranes in and around the GTA on one hand. In the early days after the election people were even carrying credit cards like master card and visa with the NDP logo emblazoned proudly on them.
It did not tae time for those supporters to realise the error they had made. 4 years of that governing hell was dumped upon Ontario. Then the cleanup started when they lost power.

What I am trying to say is educate yourself on the parties. Don't vote for a party because you don't like the other two! The third may be worse.
My suggestion is don't vote if you don't know what your doing.

DILLIGAF

 

[blackram]

@blackram
I don't know how old you are but I caution you vey strongly to think about your vote before you cast it.
I can remember very vividly when everyone was supposedly pissed of with the Fiberals and the PC's so a lot of people cast a vote for the NDP out of spite
Well guess what? We got a majority NDP government in the province of Ontario.
This decision ripped our province apart. Unemployment skyrocketed. 40,000 people in the construction industry alone were out of work. You could count the tower cranes in and around the GTA on one hand. In the early days after the election people were even carrying credit cards like master card and visa with the NDP logo emblazoned proudly on them.
It did not tae time for those supporters to realise the error they had made. 4 years of that governing hell was dumped upon Ontario. Then the cleanup started when they lost power.

What I am trying to say is educate yourself on the parties. Don't vote for a party because you don't like the other two! The third may be worse.
My suggestion is don't vote if you don't know what your doing.

DILLIGAF

I'm old enough to remember those days, but I don't hold it against the current NDP, we can't keep holding historical failures against the current party, because then we couldn't vote for the Conservatives or Liberals either, because they had some historically shitty governments too. That particular Bob Rae NDP government's problem was that they weren't ready to govern, they got voted in, but they weren't ever expecting to get voted in. We see that in other provinces, currently, they have NDP governments that were somewhat prepared and those governments are doing relatively well, despite a few problems (which all governments will have), such as in Alberta or BC. Being a lifelong Liberal voter, it's now time to get them out of office, I agree with that. In my opinion, it was the Mike Harris Conservatives that tore Ontario apart, much more than Bob Rae's NDP.

 

[blackram]

Maybe you could give us a few examples of what the advantages are that the Conservatives give to "big business", and not to "regular businesses or individuals".

Tax cuts only go to big businesses. They give a few crumbs to small businesses and individuals, but that's only to keep them shut up.

And as far as the NDP go, as socialism is in their DNA, they are anti ALL private business, except unions of coarse.

NDP is social-democratic, not socialist, if you don't know the difference, then we have nothing to talk about.

 

[ROBERTSON]

Tax cuts only go to big businesses. They give a few crumbs to small businesses and individuals, but that's only to keep them shut up.

So no facts.

NDP is social-democratic, not socialist, if you don't know the difference, then we have nothing to talk about.

As the subject in our posts is "business", the "social" part of your political party classification of the NDP, refers to economics, which would mean no private business, that is the very definition of socialism. (It doesn't mean the NDP likes to party)

The "democratic" part, simply means they are a socialist party that allows free elections.
As apposed to Communism, where socialism is the economic system, but communism does not allow free elections

You need to separate the two terms, socialism is a economic system, democratic, refers to the governing/political system.
An example of a "social democratic" party.
"1: a political party in Germany advocating a form of social organization based on the economic and political ideology of Karl Marx.
2. any of several European political parties advocating a gradual transition to socialism or a modified form of socialism by and under democratic processes."

A few definitions of socialism for you, so you will hopefully understand just what "socialism" means.

Definition of socialism
"1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods"

"2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property"

"b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state"

Notice how all of them refer to business ownership.

If you need any more help, please let me know.