Bait n switch either it is right or wrong....

[cristycurves]

There isn't a grey area here or is there...........?
I've griped and posted about this before and I'm doing it again because again another hobbyist has recommended a provider who is using fake pictures, and he attests that her pictures are all accurate! How can pictures of another person be considered accurate? This irks me, because so many men complain about fake pics, and bait n switch, yet when they meet a lady they like and get along with, and she is using another persons pics, they ignore it and justify it, because she seems to "resemble" the pics.....This just supports others doing the same thing. Either it is right or wrong. Using another persons pics, regardless of whether or not they resemble them, is bait n switch and stealing, isn't it?

 

[papasmerf]

Never is it right.

 

[cristycurves]

I agree with you on this, yet there appears to be many hobbyists who don't. They are for proclaiming it's wrongs apparently when the escort isn't cute/sexy/or in their opinion worthwhile, but if she is cute/hot, nice or worthwhile, then it's forgiven.....go figure.

 

[Boing]

Just worry about you and what you write on your website. Don't worry about them.

 

[Waxed]

The pros know about fake pictures and how to go about it. But they will take advantage of those that don't. Just like phone scams.

You are either sharp enough to know they are fake or you have made the same mistake and will never do it again.

 

[cristycurves]

@Boing, well it's not about worrying, nor being nosey. It is about wanting fair play from both sides. All to often hobbyists will point out the negatives about escorts all while committing their own faux pas's. If a hobbyist is going to accept fake pics from one escort, don't then turn around and condemn another for also using them.

 

[Madman]

I think it is wrong but men will always fall for a pretty woman and not condemn the actions if they loved the time spent with the lady but yeah, it's wrong.

 

[catherine st.claire]

I don't have a problem with it. If someone isn't comfortable using their own pictures, legally utilizing photos is their choice. There are too many reasons to list why using one's own image could irreparably damage their lives and I could easily post pictures that look exactly like me but could never be traced back to me in my private life. Being forced to use my own pictures is one of the reasons I haven't participated in advertising as actively in the industry over the last decade as I should have. It has been an immense struggle for me that makes me sick to my stomach, literally. I spend days not being able to keep anything down or even digest tea. I'm working on it but it's not easy. I also think it also acts as a benefit for those who do use their own photos as clients who are concerned will gravitate towards non B&S providers.

I think it should be a personal choice and they shouldn't be judged. I know I don't live their lives, walk in their shoes or understand their situations and if not using their own pictures makes their lives more manageable then all the more power to them. This industry is a struggle for most and anything that helps it be more manageable should be a non issue. No one should be forced to release their image in this online smegma given the potential harm it could cause. I would actually prefer to return to the days of no pictures, where clients made their decisions based on a phone conversation...

smiles, cat

 

[cristycurves]

I don't have a problem with it. If someone isn't comfortable using their own pictures, legally utilizing photos is their choice. There are too many reasons to list why using one's own image could irreparably damage their lives and I could easily post pictures that look exactly like me but could never be traced back to me in my private life. Being forced to use my own pictures is one of the reasons I haven't participated in advertising as actively in the industry over the last decade as I should have. It has been an immense struggle for me that makes me sick to my stomach, literally. I spend days not being able to keep anything down or even digest tea. I'm working on it but it's not easy. I also think it also acts as a benefit for those who do use their own photos as clients who are concerned will gravitate towards non B&S providers.

I think it should be a personal choice and they shouldn't be judged. I know I don't live their lives, walk in their shoes or understand their situations and if not using their own pictures makes their lives more manageable then all the more power to them. This industry is a struggle for most and anything that helps it be more manageable should be a non issue. No one should be forced to release their image in this online smegma given the potential harm it could cause. I would actually prefer to return to the days of no pictures, where clients made their decisions based on a phone conversation...

smiles, cat

I see your point, but I am very surprised by it. Surprised because, as you may know, the "other board" has always had a following that persecuted those who did use another persons pictures, actually, they'll ban you for that there, if I'm not mistaken, at the very least you'll be given infractions.
Perhaps you don't know my history......lol. When I started posting online, back in (2011) I was unaware of online advertising etiquette, pic posting rules and had never bothered to read that other sites rules of conduct. My escorting experience was from the days of phone books, lol. I was also terrified of being identified as an escort. Back then I felt shameful being an escort, as it had been cemented into my mind that being an escort was bad, disgraceful and something to be ashamed of. Thankfully I've over come those foolish beliefs.
So when I joined that "other site"I joined, using another persons pictures, and was soon found out, then blasted, criticized, chastised and by some, never forgiven for doing so, by both providers and hobbyists there. I'd name those who participated in the thread that outed my pics as not being mine, but you can look that up yourself, if you so choose, lol. I suppose I'm jaded from my time there, and have had certain protocols now cemented in my mind and expect everyone should follow them, which rightfully isn't my business. Back then the GFE was also a bone of contention and if one advertised as such, had to offer particular services, or again, there you'd be criticized for advertising wrong.
Those providing their time should be able to offer and advertise it as they see fit, yet there are so many who seem to want to set rules, yet be nit picky about who gets away with following them or not. That's one of the cons of review boards, I suppose, you get cliques of people who often group to condone or condemn how others do things, it just would be nice if they did it equally.
Primo made a good point, perhaps those who choose to use pics other than there own, should state that they are representatives of themselves and not personal images, maybe that would set a new precedent for this industry. And maybe, as has been said, I should just concern myself with my own pics, and how others react to them. lol. Point taken

 

[Maurice Boscorelli]

Going to agree with Primo here

Unless it's mentioned that the pics are ''reasonable facsimiles'' then I think this is very misleading and unfair.

 

[papasmerf]

It is like me posting this and saying Not me but we could be twins.

 

[Maurice Boscorelli]

It is like me posting this and saying Not me but we could be twins.

Always thought you had a little Spartacus in you.

 

[Beached]

Even real pics can be quite misleading. Camera angles, photo editing or even using old pictures can falsley represent what you are going to see when you open the door. From a client perspective I just do not want an inpleasant surprise when the door opens.

 

[ReservoirDog]

Why can they just post their own pictures and leave it at that?.

 

[catherine st.claire]

Miss Christy,

I don't remember the thread but I certainly know the rules. Knowing them does not mean I support them but I'm excellent at following them after some less than desirable situations that arose on the other other board when I first came to Canada. I'm sorry your experience there has impacted you. I had a very similar experience on the other other board and to this day, my participation there is done with trepidation.

The demand for ethical business practices in this industry has been the driving force behind the online communities and I respect the movement as I've always believed that we need better industry standards to protect all involved. One of the legislative changes I'd like to see is the elimination of photos from Canadian advertising venues entirely. Photos can then be limited to a providers personal website where she can choose to protect them in a private area that requires screening before access is granted . Photos are used against us in everything from custody battles to border crossings. It's illegal for a sex worker to cross into the US even for a holiday and they are now employing facial/tattoo/scar recognition to data base us. It's a 10 year ban if you're caught trying to cross the border, with no opportunity for defence. As soon as there is corroborative evidence that a woman is a sex worker, CAS is immediately involved in custody cases and they stay involved adding more insult to injury. Square jobs are lost, families split and social shunning ensues. Pictures are most often the initial culprit. Once an adversary knows for sure those pictures are real; it doesn't take them long to track all of a providers online interactions and everything gathered can and will be used against her.

I believe the industry demand that developed from the online marketplace has continually eroded both the privacy and service safety of the industry providers while simultaneously driving prices down. This has become the standard and providers have been desensitized to their detriment and we are dying on the cross for it in our personal lives. The only upside when a provider is outed is that it's inadvertently bringing attention to the industry on a very personal level to many who were previously oblivious to it. I've never seen the number of providers being outed to their loved ones at the rate I see today. What it means is that those families who actually do the work of healing will have more inclusive belief systems and a better understanding of the industry which hopefully will help shape tomorrows generations to be more tolerant. The ones that don't do the work live with nuclear fallout, sometimes indefinitely. My parents haven't spoken to me in over 15 years.

The only thing photos have contributed to is clients getting an idea of what we may look like but as Beached commented so concisely, real photos can be just as misleading. With enough money and expertise, I can look like anyone I want to who has a similar body type. What matters are the facts. Is she the size/shape she claimed, did she provide the services she promised for the price agreed to and was the appointment safe both in services and setting? Eliminating photos from the industry would actually implement a market correction that would benefit everyone. Then that's all that needs be promised and delivered. Today providers are forced to put themselves in compromising positions with privacy/discretion for an income that is often not worth the risk. 20 years ago the take home was substantially more and I felt it justified the risk; I contend that today it isn't. I'm now beyond the risk, I can't be outed because I am out to everyone but my life is an example of what happens when the news hits and should be a warning to all; providers and clients alike. I had 1 photo that was submitted to court, 1 solitary photo that didn't show my face but was inarguably me and the rest is history. Keeping it discreet and untraceable is key...

smiles, cat

 

[cristycurves]

^ Thank you Cat for that explanation, I had never taken the time to look at it that way and can certainly see the problems and understand your perspective. Back in the days of the phone books and newspaper ads, things were better, imo. Better in the sense that it was far more discrete for us and imo, less problematic for many other reasons. I'm one who would quickly jump on the band wagon for no online pic ads, never hurt business in the past, so I'm sure if it were to come to fruition, future business too would be fine. Now how can we start the ball rolling........

 

[catherine st.claire]

As an industry we need have a cohesive plan for what the workers feel is an ethical, safe legislation then aggressively lobby it the way any industry does. Then we need to be sitting at the next Supreme Court challenge table as stakeholders to ensure the message isn't lost. There will be another challenge, it's just a matter of when and there is time to get out there and shake hands, circulating a white paper with our vision. The issue is determining what our vision is. In order to effect long term positive change, there are short term sacrifices that current providers are often unwilling to make and there will always be those who don't want any legislation. I believe that it's naive to think we shouldn't have the same type of regulatory legislation that other hazardous employment industries do so I'm putting something together, we'll see if the industry gets on board...

smiles, cat

 

[cristycurves]

^Well you have my support and all my contact info is on my site, should you want me to do anything to help, I'll be at your disposal