Canadian man legally lists gender as female to get cheaper car insurance: report

[Ben]

What a brilliant person.

 

[God]

Fine, next.

 

[demien3k5]

Plus, he's now eligible for BOGO when he buys himself some new frilly panties at Victoria's Secret! Winner! Winner! Chicken Dinner! ancing:

 

[ROBERTSON]

UNFRICKEN believable,... a government agency allows some one to change their sex, no cutting required, simply by saying they are a different sex today, than yesterday.

What the hell happened to common sense and guts in government agenises, and the silly servants that run them.

So what's next, is IT going to be allowed to change IT'S mind tomorrow, and have IT'S birth certificate changed back to male, absolutely no reason not to, is there.

 

[Admiral]

jezz...

 

[Soulman]

Why would anyone want to hang around, be friends or even marry this kind of person?.

 

[Crimson Angel]

UNFRICKEN believable,... a government agency allows some one to change their sex, no cutting required, simply by saying they are a different sex today, than yesterday.

What the hell happened to common sense and guts in government agenises, and the silly servants that run them.

So what's next, is IT going to be allowed to change IT'S mind tomorrow, and have IT'S birth certificate changed back to male, absolutely no reason not to, is there.

"look at me I'm funny, I'm using IT as a new insult I learned heeheehee snort snort snort"

On a side note being a non-binary transfeminine I'm glad this is the one privilege I gained - cheaper car insurance, out of dozens and dozens of other privileges that I lost ever since I stopped being male.

Na na na na na na I can drive a car and you can't. :na::na::na::na::na::na:

 

[Jessica Rain]

Insurance companies are assholes, we all know that but what this guy did was wrong.

The doctor who signed off should face punishment of some type. Clearly he did not do his job very well.

This is a slap in the face to the trans community.

 

[ROBERTSON]

Yet another reason to have everyone treated equally.....no gender bias, no race bias, no religious bias.....nothing. Everyone is just a number according to the law.

Couldn't agree more , all this stupidity does is produce MORE inequities, NOT less.

 

[ROBERTSON]

Insurance companies are assholes, we all know that but what this guy did was wrong.

The doctor who signed off should face punishment of some type. Clearly he did not do his job very well.

This is a slap in the face to the trans community.

Agreed on all counts.

But one must also recognise that the doctor probably knows the hell that could be brought down on him, if he apposed it's request, not worth the time and money fighting a loosing battle with it.

 

[Jessica Rain]

Agreed on all counts.

But one must also recognise that the doctor probably knows the hell that could be brought down on him, if he apposed it's request, not worth the time and money fighting a loosing battle with it.

Ya I get that too. The doc would be in a catch 22. I think a better policy would work to help protect that. Sadly that puts more onus on the trans community but if you want to ensure that your fight is not being taken advantage of, you would want to have a stricter policy in places so jerks like this don't use it as a way to "beat the system"

 

[Crimson Angel]

So.......what if we look at it this way?

If someone thinks in their mind that they are the opposite gender to what their DNA says.....it's okay? But what do we call it if someone thinks they are a different species than what their dna says? Why is one supposed to be automatically accepted as a sane choice but I think we'd all agree that the person who thinks themselves to be a duck needs help?


Just an honest question....no meant to be directed personally at anyone. I want to know why one is different than the other.

How often have you actually seen a human beings trying to be a duck? Compare that to the amount of transgenders that are present in this society.

Being a duck vs human have nothing to do with gender or the traits one's born with. Being male/female/gender non-binary does. Nobody ever says "I'm born a human but I wish I was a duck instead, so I'm going to identify as a duck", and if they do then what, they're going to live in a swamp and eat lilies for the rest of their lives? That's a highly offensive and asinine comparison.

Oh yeah and I forgot - seriously Ben? FOX NEWS??? Couldn't you get a better source?

 

[ROBERTSON]

So.......what if we look at it this way?

If someone thinks in their mind that they are the opposite gender to what their DNA says.....it's okay?

If some one thinks they are the opposite gender than their DNA,...what they are born,... that would be a psychological abnormality, wouldn't it.

And yes, that person needs help, but few seem to get it.

 

[Crimson Angel]

Insurance companies are assholes, we all know that but what this guy did was wrong.

The doctor who signed off should face punishment of some type. Clearly he did not do his job very well.

This is a slap in the face to the trans community.

Aww that's okay dear. :heart: You have never been a spokesperson for the LGBTQIA+ community and you never will be, so you don't ever have to worry about whether somebody is making the trans community look bad. Am I right Jessie the Super-duper star Wessie?

 

[Maurice Boscorelli]

If some one thinks they are the opposite gender than their DNA,...what they are born,... that would be a psychological abnormality, wouldn't it.

And yes, that person needs help, but few seem to get it.

After much thought on this subject I'm leaning more to agree with your stance. Hard to argue with DNA in the end.

But with 7.6 billion people on this planet I can see where some humans are just going to be born not according to the biological script so to speak.

Recently I saw what appeared to be a cross dressing male walking down the street in Burlington when I was driving. I know years ago I would have thought something negative and laughed to myself. But that day I just thought of the struggle that person must have had in their life and might have on a daily basis.

I also watch the TV series Billions. There is a character on there played by a non- binary person named Asia Kate Dillon. Quite fascinating TV really. And somewhat educational for myself.

 

[ROBERTSON]

After much thought on this subject I'm leaning more to agree with your stance. Hard to argue with DNA in the end.

But with 7.6 billion people on this planet I can see where some humans are just going to be born not according to the biological script so to speak.

Recently I saw what appeared to be a cross dressing male walking down the street in Burlington when I was driving. I know years ago I would have thought something negative and laughed to myself. But that day I just thought of the struggle that person must have had in their life and might have on a daily basis.

I also watch the TV series Billions. There is a character on there played by a non- binary person named Asia Kate Dillon. Quite fascinating TV really. And somewhat educational for myself.

An intelligent well stated post Maurice, pretty much agree with your points, would not want to be in some ones shoes that does not know what sex they are, or one that disagrees with their DNA.

But that does NOT give them the right to bash the rest of us, who don't have that problem.

The 1st time I saw Billions, was on a flight down south last Feb. and am now watching it on Crave, fun show, and yes, that is a great character, smart, and playing a well grounded person, not full of hate, and who obviously doesn't need, or want help.

 

[Maurice Boscorelli]

The US got away from taking people with mental issues off the streets and getting them help. Some say that is part of the issue with homelessness, shootings and other issues. I'm all for people to live their lives the way they see fit.....even if it harms them. It's their choice. But where does a line belong when people have mental issues that affect their ability to make choices that might do them harm. If we have the compassion to protect someone who thinks they're a lion from jumping in with the lions at the zoo......why not see any need to help people who believe they are women trapped in male bodies and whatnot? Is it just that we don't see a safety issue by changing gender? There are stats out there that show that there is a higher rate of suicide among people who go through sex changes. Wouldn't that mean that we could save some lives by protecting people from themselves.

Primo Transgender people will never accept the possibility that they have mental health issues. And to be honest I'm not sure I would embrace that concept if I was them either.

I'd like to compare the suicide rates of the people who did't transition to the ones who did to make a fair comparison on your statement

 

[Crimson Angel]

Seems a bit like you're disrespecting the people with mental health issues. I don't know how many out there suffer from species dysphoria......but I would have expected a little understanding or empathy from you.

Species dysphoria - Wikipedia

You seem to see everything through your view of gender and give now credence to the way others view gender or mental health. What is it that makes you so right that you can just piss on the comparison of one type of dysphoria to another? I've said it elsewhere....you do nothing to benefit the discussion with your negative posts. I'd happily discuss any topic but when you just disregard the opinions or views of others, then it becomes a waste of time. How many people have you turned off to the plights of the LGBT community because of your insults?


Now....is there anyone else who can see why some people would see gender dysphoria in a similar way to species dysphoria? After all, the mind is telling these people that what they physically are is not what it should be. Why do people simply see the need to treat one and not the other?

The US got away from taking people with mental issues off the streets and getting them help. Some say that is part of the issue with homelessness, shootings and other issues. I'm all for people to live their lives the way they see fit.....even if it harms them. It's their choice. But where does a line belong when people have mental issues that affect their ability to make choices that might do them harm. If we have the compassion to protect someone who thinks they're a lion from jumping in with the lions at the zoo......why not see any need to help people who believe they are women trapped in male bodies and whatnot? Is it just that we don't see a safety issue by changing gender? There are stats out there that show that there is a higher rate of suicide among people who go through sex changes. Wouldn't that mean that we could save some lives by protecting people from themselves.


Any thoughts? (personal attacks and they typical CA stuff not withstanding?)

Now you're just brainfarting.

Where have you seen a human being legitimately thinking he/she's a duck? (and by legitimately I mean he/she lives as an ACTUAL duck living near a pond, eating lilies, shitting in the water, fucking other ducks, trying to fly but fails and drowns a lot) Give me at least TWO examples of people being like that then maybe I'll talk about your preposterous view.

And why are you comparing a transgender woman with "a person pretending to be an animal"? Are you trying to say that the opposite gender is comparable to animals? That's just insulting. Women are not animals (or if you're a woman, men are not animals)

You're using a backhanded dehumanization tactic here that I can smell from a mile away. Please stop being an asshole.

 

[ROBERTSON]

Further to PrimO's very informative post,...

"Some people experience both gender dysphoria and species dysphoria and consider them to be related in that they believe them to be similar dysphoric experiences."

Would explain some posts here, wouldn't it.

 

[Crimson Angel]

Further to PrimO's very informative post,...

"Some people experience both gender dysphoria and species dysphoria and consider them to be related in that they believe them to be similar dysphoric experiences."

Would explain some posts here, wouldn't it.

It'll certainly explain YOUR posts, Mr. "I-fart-it-noises".