Cancer

[Jesus]

Damn you when will you go away. Where did you come from, why are you her. Who invited you?

So when in the hell are you going to fuckn leave?.



Just a rant.

 

[HOF]

Hope all is well!! It's never just a rant.

 

[Bubba]

Hope all is cool Jesus.

 

[Prick]

Like the great pneumonia outbreak during the 1st World War that led to the death of more people worldwide than the war itself..........the Bubonic Plague, which killed 3/4 of the known inhabitants of Earth.....WW2 that saw the deaths of approximately 80,000,000 people.......Cancer is yet another plague that is ravishing this world. I feel that mankind will ultimately find a cure for cancer, but, like any other malady that has beset this world, millions will die before that happens.

 

[Wanker]

[h=1]BC Cancer Foundation receives largest charitable gift in province's history[/h]

[h=2]Slovakian immigrant and self-made multimillionaire bequeaths $21 million of property empire[/h]

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[BEER]

Cancer is a bitch.

 

[Jesus Quintana]

I lost "the one" to Cancer 358 days ago.

 

[tboy]

ok, this isn't a slag against anyone who has lost someone to cancer or any other terrible disease but.....

sorry, i don't believe a) we should be looking for a cure and b) shouldn't be working on cures for any other fatal disease.

I'll tell you why (and please, don't everyone go batshit crazy on me)...

The problem with finding cures for these diseases (without finding a vaccine) is that we are really just weakening our gene pool. Eventually there will come a time when we've allowed so many defective genes into the gene pool that a simple cold will wipe us all out. We've come so far in helping people live and breed that really shouldn't, that we'll eventually get to the maximum volume of sustainable population.

There is all this talk about being able to map out the possible birth defects, future illnesses etc once we crack the genome....I see no problem with this. If a couple want to have a baby, and they find that the child will be very susceptible to leukemia, or encephalities, then no, they shouldn't be allowed to reproduce.

I've cited this example before:

It was on TLC and this couple were highlighted about their baby that had this terrible disease that basicallly left it as nothing but a hump of flesh. They admitted that each had the gene in their family that would cause this to happen, were tested, and told that they had something like a 95% chance that any child they had, would turn out like this. The child would require $100,000.00 worth of medical care every year and it would never see, think, walk, talk, anything....

Now take that one step further....a couple meet get married and want to have kids. they find out both their families have a history of lots of cancer. There is a good chance that any baby they have will most likely develop some form of cancer in their lifetime. This child grows up and meets another who is also prone to cancer.

Think of all the billions, no TRILLIONS of dollars that will be spent "saving" all these people prone to the disease and think of all the trillions of dollars spent on research when there is no end in sight.......

Since most cancers are mutations of normal cells maybe cancer is the great population control that is built into us? Those who are resistant to cancers should survive and eventually, no more cancer....isn't that the natural order of things?

Now aids is another matter. It is a disease brought into our midst because someone at some time fucked a monkey and the disease adapted to infecting humans but you don't "catch" cancer, you can get it by being exposed to toxins etc but if you fuck someone with cancer, you're not going to get it.....

I dunno, i just think fighting and treating it has become more of a business than it being simply a "disease".

One thing that really put my mind into this is when a study was done analyzing all these events such as run for the cure, yellow ribbon runs etc. It was advertised that a good 75% of the money raised by these events don't go into research, they go into promoting and running the event. Paying for off duty police, marshalling, timers, equipment, food, permits, etc etc etc. It is widely and readily known that if you want to donate to a particular reasearch, you should simply donate the money to that organization. Even still, do you think people who are the chairman of say "the cancer board of canada" is doing it free? Hell no, they are paid and probably paid quite well.......

Yes, cancer is a horrible disease (actually group of diseases) and those who have fought it, or lost someone to it, have my sympathies...but should we really be trying to cure it?

 

[Transient]

Good luck Jesus. I hope whatever you are experiencing turns out for the best.

 

[PussyScientist]

...but should we really be trying to cure it?

Yes. A business or not, YES.

 

[Maurice Boscorelli]

ok, this isn't a slag against anyone who has lost someone to cancer or any other terrible disease but.....

sorry, i don't believe a) we should be looking for a cure and b) shouldn't be working on cures for any other fatal disease.

I'll tell you why (and please, don't everyone go batshit crazy on me)...

The problem with finding cures for these diseases (without finding a vaccine) is that we are really just weakening our gene pool. Eventually there will come a time when we've allowed so many defective genes into the gene pool that a simple cold will wipe us all out. We've come so far in helping people live and breed that really shouldn't, that we'll eventually get to the maximum volume of sustainable population.

There is all this talk about being able to map out the possible birth defects, future illnesses etc once we crack the genome....I see no problem with this. If a couple want to have a baby, and they find that the child will be very susceptible to leukemia, or encephalities, then no, they shouldn't be allowed to reproduce.

I've cited this example before:

It was on TLC and this couple were highlighted about their baby that had this terrible disease that basicallly left it as nothing but a hump of flesh. They admitted that each had the gene in their family that would cause this to happen, were tested, and told that they had something like a 95% chance that any child they had, would turn out like this. The child would require $100,000.00 worth of medical care every year and it would never see, think, walk, talk, anything....

Now take that one step further....a couple meet get married and want to have kids. they find out both their families have a history of lots of cancer. There is a good chance that any baby they have will most likely develop some form of cancer in their lifetime. This child grows up and meets another who is also prone to cancer.

Think of all the billions, no TRILLIONS of dollars that will be spent "saving" all these people prone to the disease and think of all the trillions of dollars spent on research when there is no end in sight.......

Since most cancers are mutations of normal cells maybe cancer is the great population control that is built into us? Those who are resistant to cancers should survive and eventually, no more cancer....isn't that the natural order of things?

Now aids is another matter. It is a disease brought into our midst because someone at some time fucked a monkey and the disease adapted to infecting humans but you don't "catch" cancer, you can get it by being exposed to toxins etc but if you fuck someone with cancer, you're not going to get it.....

I dunno, i just think fighting and treating it has become more of a business than it being simply a "disease".

One thing that really put my mind into this is when a study was done analyzing all these events such as run for the cure, yellow ribbon runs etc. It was advertised that a good 75% of the money raised by these events don't go into research, they go into promoting and running the event. Paying for off duty police, marshalling, timers, equipment, food, permits, etc etc etc. It is widely and readily known that if you want to donate to a particular reasearch, you should simply donate the money to that organization. Even still, do you think people who are the chairman of say "the cancer board of canada" is doing it free? Hell no, they are paid and probably paid quite well.......

Yes, cancer is a horrible disease (actually group of diseases) and those who have fought it, or lost someone to it, have my sympathies...but should we really be trying to cure it?

That's all very fine until someone you love or respect is stricken.

Then you want to move heaven and Earth to save them.

 

[tboy]

That's all very fine until someone you love or respect is stricken.

Then you want to move heaven and Earth to save them.

Not to sound callous, but I dunno about that.....

I've given a lot of thought to the scenario that if (more likely when...) I get cancer. I've smoked most of my life and been exposed to all sorts of toxins so I'm pretty sure the big c and I have a date with destiny......

I've seen too many times people who have gone through chemo and made their last days hell on earth....I'd rather have a few good months of a reasonably good life than a few months of living hell......

A gf's father came down with lou gerig's disease and watched the hell he went through and what the family had to go through. It got to the point where he could only blink yes or no. I finally said to the gf: ask your father if he's ready to go and then ask his doctor if morphine could help ease his suffering...(I forget exactly how I worded it but she got my drift).

She did, her rather wanted to go and the doc helped.......

sorry, I'd never want to put my family through that.....if I found out I had 6 months to live? I'd sell everything, buy a sailboat and go off into the sunset....(kind of like elephants)

 

[LickingGravity]

ok, this isn't a slag against anyone who has lost someone to cancer or any other terrible disease but.....

sorry, i don't believe a) we should be looking for a cure and b) shouldn't be working on cures for any other fatal disease.

I'll tell you why (and please, don't everyone go batshit crazy on me)...?

I lost my wife to cancer so I did count to 10................. tboy this is perhaps the stupidest, most illogical, poorly thought out post you have ever made and you have made a few. There are so many flaws in logic, and 1960's beliefs imbedded in here that there is just nowhere to begin, plus I know you are as stubborn as a wart-hog in rainy season even when you are clearly wrong so there is no point arguing with you.

 

[-b]

Jesus my thoughts are with you.......

 

[train]

The problem with finding cures for these diseases (without finding a vaccine) is that we are really just weakening our gene pool. Eventually there will come a time when we've allowed so many defective genes into the gene pool that a simple cold will wipe us all out. We've come so far in helping people live and breed that really shouldn't, that we'll eventually get to the maximum volume of sustainable population.

I see no problem with this. If a couple want to have a baby, and they find that the child will be very susceptible to leukemia, or encephalities, then no, they shouldn't be allowed to reproduce.

Gee I thought we got rid of this genetic selection way of thinking in 1945, although I guess there are still a few around in communist China.

Since most cancers are mutations of normal cells maybe cancer is the great population control that is built into us? Those who are resistant to cancers should survive and eventually, no more cancer....isn't that the natural order of things?

Based on this genius thinking why try to cure anything? Why just cancer ? If all people with actual medical brains thought this way what do you say the odds would have been for Banting and Best?

You are presuming that we will never find a vaccine or insulin type cure for cancer.

You are also presuming that all cancer is genetic and that none of is caused by our environment or that most people have the genetic make-up to resist environmental caused cancer. That soldiers in foreign theatres, residents of Love Canal ( and on and on) were all coincidentally poor genetic make-up.

One thing that really put my mind into this is when a study was done analyzing all these events such as run for the cure, yellow ribbon runs etc. It was advertised that a good 75% of the money raised by these events don't go into research, they go into promoting and running the event.

So if that is the problem, rather than fixing the fundraising cost issue you want to just stop treating the desease. More genius thinking.

The kindest thing I can say about tboy's post is that he must not have put much thought into it and that he is quite content living in 1912.

 

[Lou Pole]

I also know about cancer and do not wish it on anyone. It drains family members mentally and physically not just the victim. It takes years to block it behind you but one can never forget.