Dec.6

[Madman]

The government is now asking for bids from their evangelical and ex grumpy SP friends on how to divy up the $20 million. Caps in hand they will be all putting their greedy little hands into the pot at the expense of the sex workers and the potential ruining of the lives of clients.

It will be an interesting landscape after this weekend and time will tell how this game of cat and mouse will play out. I just hope and pray the Harper Neo Cons get their just lumps in the fall of 2015!

 

[Al Bumin]

I never vote but will make sure I do this time.

 

[papasmerf]

We will send al sharpton and jessy up so Americans vote too.


They will push for the illegal write in vote.

 

[LickingGravity]

The government is now asking for bids from their evangelical and ex grumpy SP friends on how to divy up the $20 million. Caps in hand they will be all putting their greedy little hands into the pot at the expense of the sex workers and the potential ruining of the lives of clients.

It will be an interesting landscape after this weekend and time will tell how this game of cat and mouse will play out. I just hope and pray the Harper Neo Cons get their just lumps in the fall of 2015!

What you rambling on about over the $20 million? Wynne spills more than that on a good day.

Has far has evangelical is concerned tell me you have never knelt and chanted "Mh my God" between the the thighs of a fresh faced 25 year old.

 

[Wise Guy]

I doubt the authorities have enough power to enforce this new law. Imagine telling cabinet: We need 20 million extra to hire more cops to enforce this ridiculous new law.

 

[User-E]

Here's the article:

 

[Boing]

Here's the article:

90 % of that money will be spend on labor and polls of what to do with it. Robbery all over again with tax payer's money.

 

[User-E]

90 % of that money will be spend on labor and polls of what to do with it. Robbery all over again with tax payer's money.

Agreed.

Their programs will be dandy for street level workers, but many SP's don't need or want any of this:

"Eligible projects will provide victims with services such as trauma therapy, addiction recovery, employment training and financial literacy. Projects that offer transitional housing, emergency safe houses and drop-in centres will also be considered."

These programs already exist and are available to most people in crisis.

 

[Ozzie]

Agreed.

Their programs will be dandy for street level workers, but many SP's don't need or want any of this:

"Eligible projects will provide victims with services such as trauma therapy, addiction recovery, employment training and financial literacy. Projects that offer transitional housing, emergency safe houses and drop-in centres will also be considered."

These programs already exist and are available to most people in crisis.

Don't they have to provide a T4 slip to get compensated?.

 

[papasmerf]

Look at it this way Danny......................Next month after the old guy passes.

You have a shot

 

[DannyDeVito]

Look at it this way Danny......................Next month after the old guy passes.

You have a shot

Crossing my fingers.

 

[Jasper]

Cruel irony that Dec. 6th is the National Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence - the anniversary of the Montreal Massacre tragedy.
This bill creates a more dangerous atmosphere for sex workers.

 

[Angie]

Agreed.

Their programs will be dandy for street level workers, but many SP's don't need or want any of this:

"Eligible projects will provide victims with services such as trauma therapy, addiction recovery, employment training and financial literacy. Projects that offer transitional housing, emergency safe houses and drop-in centres will also be considered."

These programs already exist and are available to most people in crisis.

I am not starting anything here, what will happen is not too much, $20 million does not come close to enough o help all SPs across Canada, and yes we already have services in place, but not near enough we need more to get those who yes are victims off the street. However yes leave the individuals that DO CHOOSE this as their means of income alone. We are all people and entitled to live our lives the way we want, but a majority of Street workers do not choose.
Bottom line hell will freeze over before they do get help.

The resources that do help most are non profit, they get no help from government.

 

[Angie]

Name a government program (from any government) that doesn't just ridiculously waste money. First off, they have to hire people to create the program, then they have to hire people to run the program. They bring in their friends and political allies rather than the best people for the jobs. The fluff out their budgets because being efficient just means the program will have a smaller budget the following year. The program won't work, because government usually isn't the answer, so instead of cutting the program, they'll just ask for more money to do more of the same things that don't work. Meanwhile, the program directors and employees will be demanding more pay and benefits. Heaven forbid a Union gets involved, then the cost of program really skyrockets! In the end, the program's focus will no longer be to help the original group, but to perpetuate itself and get as much money for it's budget as it can, while complaining that it can't get the job done because of x, y and z reasons that have nothing to do with anything but their political opponents.

Show me a government program that hasn't gone that way and I'll show you dozens that have.

Exactly! Portland Hose Society in DTES here in Vancouver was in the news as it was partly funded by government, they used lot of the money for the project for staff bonus and vacations. It is sickening that people need help and the government uses the funds to fund their own vacations. Now tell me why we have o many poverty, drugs, and mentally ill walking the streets. Grrrr....pisses me off.

 

[Robintheboywonder]

The fact of the matter is much of that $20 million will be going to the evangelical groups who want to set up John School and concentration camps for sex workers.

This is a horrible government we have at the federal level.

 

[Madman]

What you rambling on about over the $20 million? Wynne spills more than that on a good day.

Has far has evangelical is concerned tell me you have never knelt and chanted "Mh my God" between the the thighs of a fresh faced 25 year old.

My point is the neo cons are now paying off their supporters at the expense of the ladies.

Notice what my political friends have done.......look at all the signatures!



The Municipal left leaning council has spoken!

 

[oldguyzer]

$20 million, huh? That's about what I spent on ladies this year...:sorry2:

 

[Raiden]

The Municipal left leaning council has spoken!

:clapping:

 

[papasmerf]

December 6 is Little Christmas

 

[WhiteLion]

Today is the day.

The federal government's controversial prostitution bill comes into force Saturday as Canada marks the national day of remembrance and action on violence against women.

Parliament declared Dec. 6 a national day of remembrance after 14 students were killed at l’École Polytechnique in Montreal, 25 years ago, simply because they were women.

• Polytechnique anniversary: Remember the 14
• Should the government define what sex is?

Bill C-36 — dubbed the Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act — discourages and criminalizes those who create a demand for prostitution. The government has maintained all along that once passed into law, the prostitution bill will mean safer conditions for sex workers.
The federal government introduced the bill after the Supreme Court of Canada struck down in a unanimous decision the previous law as unconstitutional, giving the Conservatives one year to rewrite legislation.

Conservative MP Joy Smith, an ardent supporter of the bill, linked the national day of remembrance to the new law during a statement in the House of Commons on Friday.

"[Dec. 6] is Canada's national day of remembrance and action on violence against women that commemorates the 14 young women who were brutally murdered at École Polytechnique in 1989," Smith said during a statement before question period.

"Women and girls continue to face violence and harassment in their homes, schools, workplaces, online and on the streets. Women's equality advocates identify prostitution and human trafficking as two of the most serious forms of violence against women.
"It is fitting, therefore, that … Bill C-36 will come into force. This is a historic moment for Canada," she said.

A group advocating for the rights of sex workers said the law comes into force despite efforts to convince the government of the link between the criminalization of prostitution and violence against sex workers.

“December 6th will be especially sad for sex workers this year,” said Emily Symons, chair of POWER, in a written statement on Friday.
“The deeply flawed and misleadingly named Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act not only reintroduces laws deemed unconstitutional in a unanimous decision by the Supreme Court only one year ago — it actually makes them worse.

"These new measures will absolutely put sex workers in Canada at greater risk of violence, and that is totally unacceptable," Symons said.
Toronto city councillors oppose new law

Twenty-five Toronto city councillors who oppose the federal law presented Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne with a petition this week urging her to challenge it in court.

The city councillors called on Wynne to refer the law directly to the Ontario Court of Appeal so that it can determine whether the new legislation is constitutional.
"We fear that Bill C-36 has introduced such unsafe conditions into Canadian society, bringing foreseeable detriment and real danger to some of the most vulnerable women we represent."

While Wynne did not publicly respond to the letter, a spokeswoman for the premier told CBC News it's a federal matter.
"We encourage the councillors to work with their federal counterparts as this is a federal matter," said Zita Astravas, the press secretary and director of media relations for Wynne.

In the past, Wynne has said that "this is a federal discussion and I think we need to let it play out, but I will always be concerned to make sure that people who are vulnerable are kept safe.‎"

Wynne has been unable to secure a meeting with Prime Minister Stephen Harper since the two met in Ottawa one year ago this week.

Groups that represent sex workers say Bill C-36, which comes into force on Dec. 6, reintroduces laws deemed unconstitutional in a unanimous decision by the Supreme Court one year ago. Sex workers advocate Valerie Scott, left, and Terri-Jean Bedford brought the case against Canada's prostitution laws. (Darren Calabrese/Canadian Press)


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pr...of-action-on-violence-against-women-1.2862602