Dire Straits' 'Money for Nothing' Banned in Canada

[Art Mann]

I always thought Bailey Quarters was kinda hot, anyone else think that too??!!! :happy:

Actress Jan Smithers.... "kinda hot" in the girl next door way:

 

[tboy]

I always thought Jan Smithers was hotter than Loni Anderson......

One thing about the 70's, tight dress slacks were in and always showed off a nice ass to perfection....Jan's was a nice one!

 

[tboy]

To be fair: 1) It's a non-government regulator. (Nanny State Mentality or not) 2) The airwaves are 'public', as opposed to direct satellite service and / or hard lines, or any personal listening device, or private playing of the unadulterated song.

The case in question is a little silly-- But like a public park with streetwalkers turning tricks, the consensus it that it should be usable by all identifiable** groups, and sometimes 'look away' or 'change the station' doesn't cut it.

This is not an argument against the private consumption of this song (or most other things), or for a highly intrusive state (for individuals), but a desire to maintain public commons as accessible to all people.

** 'unidentifiable' in sense of the Charter and hate speech laws.

That is just another way of "justification' of a ludicrous act. Even if the airwaves are public you can:
Turn the radio off
Change the station
Write to the station with your complaint

We're not talking about screaming faggot faggot faggot over the loudspeaker in a public place.

This is all about self censorship. As individuals we can censor what we, or our kids, are exposed to.

For eg: They ban this song yet on the gardner expressway there are/were billboards 30 feet high showing a naked women in lingerie (thong) with her butt hanging out? You can't censor that. Or how about the La Senza ads on bus shelters? Or those chrome "ballsack"s that idiots would hang from their trailer hitch? How about gay pride day/week where there are people walking the streets in thongs? (who really shouldn't be I might add lol).

I always thought we lived in a country of majority rules whereby the majority of the population decides what's right or wrong, not one individual. I guess democracy is truly dead.

This is right up there with Everlast's "What it's like" all edited for shit. That song is butchered.....

 

[Cycleguy007]

I always thought Bailey Quarters was kinda hot, anyone else think that too??!!! :happy:

Yep!!!! :great:

 

[The Options Menu]

That is just another way of "justification' of a ludicrous act. Even if the airwaves are public you can:
Turn the radio off
Change the station
Write to the station with your complaint

We're not talking about screaming faggot faggot faggot over the loudspeaker in a public place.

This is all about self censorship. As individuals we can censor what we, or our kids, are exposed to.

I agree that the given case is silly as I doubt that it: 1) Hardened homophobic sentiment in anybody. 2) Motivated any homophobic acts. 3) The song was 'in character', AFAIK.

With that being said, AM and FM radio, much like broadcast TV (without ratings based blocking techniques), and the billboards you mention are all essentially push media**, with a high probability of being stumbled across. The authors' right to make and perform the song is not in question. Your ability to enjoy the song in it's unadulterated form is not in question (There's no shortage of ways to do that.). Simply speaking homosexuals are an 'identifiable group' (as per Canada's hate speech laws and the Charter), and as such they have the right to live their lives free of the need to 'flip the damn station'.

That's why the radio broadcast system set up it's own regulatory regime. If they didn't they'd likely be compelled to or have it taken out of their hands. (Pretty much the same as any professional governing body / industry association.)

'Personal responsibility', is fine, and even good in many cases, but at the end of the day you probably shouldn't have to exercise 'personal responsibility' to avoid hate speech. Admittedly, the regulatory regime is a little wacky, given that it's 100% complaints based, but...

As far as those scantily clad billboards go, while I like them, you can make a pretty strong case that the hyper sexualization of children, teens, and young women, combined with them being presented as very thing, in push media** environments should probably be looked at. The current bar of 'no snatch or nipples' is both very low, and quite probably both harmful and unavoidable. (Meaning that no amount of 'personal responsibility' or 'good parenting' can save your kids. Though you should very much talk to them about it.)

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[Derek]

CRTC wants Dire Straits ruling reviewed

CRTC wants Dire Straits ruling reviewed



OTTAWA - Canada's broadcast regulator has asked the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council to review its ban of the original version of the hit song Money for Nothing.
Last week, the CBSC issued a ruling that applies to all of private radio, which essentially bans the original version of the Dire Straits song from being played due to the word “faggot.” The CBSC deemed that the word, which is used three times in the song, is a homosexual slur and therefore violates the human rights section of the broadcast code of ethics.

The CBSC's decision to review the song, a radio staple since it was released in 1985, came after a single complaint from a woman in Newfoundland.
The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission says it has received more than 250 letters from Canadians on the issue, most of them questioning why the song would be banned.
Artists were among those who questioned the song's ban, including well-known gay Canadians such as Scott Thompson from comedy troupe Kids in the Hall.

 

[tboy]

whoa, don't tell me, common sense in the government? OMFG......say it isn't so?

I think they should publish the name of the ONE complaint after what, 25 yrs???

I think we have the means to seriously mess up this government agency.

We should get 10,000 people to write a letter of complaint about every song played in the last 10 yrs. Then if the agency DOESN'T ban those songs as well? We have grounds for a suit because if they can ban a song over 1 complaint, even though it is ludicrous, then they should abide by ALL complaints.....

here's some starters:

Songs with the word idiot in it (since that would offend stupid people):

1.
2.
3.
4.
5. The Idiot's Genius - Andrew Bird's Bowl Of Fire
6.
7.
8.
9. Idiot Heart - The Mendoza Line
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.

Kanye West: uses the word "dyke" in his song "stronger"



(uses the word damn in the title)

Katy Perry's "I kissed a girl" that is offensive to Heterosexuals

Nickelback's "Burn it to the ground" uses the word shit faced in it

Stop CBC from playing "saturday night's alright for fighting" since it promotes violence

and every rap song ever written, just on principal lol..........

 

[tboy]

BTW: The CBSC is NOT a government agency......

get this:



Now they say a radio station can leave at any time, but yeah, at what cost?

This sounds to me like a bunch of arrogant do gooders who feel they have the right to tell other people what is, or is not appropriate.

I like the last paragraph: it doesn't matter whether one person or 14,000 complaint, their decisions are based on their code of ethics....

 

[Esco!]

whoa, don't tell me, common sense in the government? OMFG......say it isn't so?

I think they should publish the name of the ONE complaint after what, 25 yrs???

I think we have the means to seriously mess up this government agency.

We should get 10,000 people to write a letter of complaint about every song played in the last 10 yrs. Then if the agency DOESN'T ban those songs as well? We have grounds for a suit because if they can ban a song over 1 complaint, even though it is ludicrous, then they should abide by ALL complaints.....

here's some starters:

Songs with the word idiot in it (since that would offend stupid people):

1.
2.
3.
4.
5. The Idiot's Genius - Andrew Bird's Bowl Of Fire
6.
7.
8.
9. Idiot Heart - The Mendoza Line
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.

Since I'm an idiot, I'm totally offended by all these songs :happy: :aww: :intello:


BTW Ray is gay

 

[The Options Menu]

Songs with the word idiot in it (since that would offend stupid people):

Technically just 'idiot' probably wouldn't cut it. Idiots exist across all identifiable groups. 'Village Idiot', 'Retard', and maybe even 'American Idiot' would arguably qualify.

Like I said, I'm not exactly willing to go to the wall for the current regulatory regime (which is a little silly), but I am in favour of maintaining the principle of 'maximum accessibility' for things that belong to 'the public'. I'm far more interested in 'sensible regulation of the commons' as opposed to hoisting the flag for some libertarian cause célèbre.

 

[tboy]

That's just it: They are not even a duly elected or chosen by our electee committee. They are purely self-governing.

Kind of like if some church goers decide that checks or hits in hockey shouldn't be shown on TV....and then force (or coerce) the broadcasters to "grey out" whenever there's a body check.....I wouldn't accept this, just like I don't accept this most recent ban.

To me, this is censorship taken to the extreme.

For eg: Don Imus' firing over "nappy haired hos".....OMFG rap songs say 10x worse.....

My beef with this is 25 yrs later and ONE complaint.....that is the main issue here.....

 

[Cycleguy007]

I heard on the radio today, that the CRTC has asked the CBSC to reconsider the situation... :roll: