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World’s most expensive drug — which costs up to $700,000 per year — too expensive, Canada says




Canada’s drug-price regulator has taken the rare step of calling a hearing into what is considered the world’s most expensive prescription medicine, accusing its manufacturer of exceeding the permissible price cap.

The yearly cost per patient of as much as $700,000 is even more than the manufacturer, Alexion Pharmaceutical, charges in the United States, which typically has the steepest prices globally, says the Patented Medicines Price Review Board (PMPRB).

Soliris is a breakthrough, potentially lifesaving treatment for two rare blood diseases, affecting about 180 patients in Canada.

The board, which has not held an excessive-price hearing since 2012, said it had demanded the U.S.-based firm lower the price and pay back revenue it made above the cap. It refused both requests, according to formal allegations issued by board staff.

Alexion continues to sell Soliris to Canadians at the highest international price among the comparator countries


Federal rules require that drug prices be no more than the median – mid-point – of seven other industrialized nations.
“Alexion continues to sell Soliris to Canadians at the highest international price among the comparator countries,” says the staff document.

If a board adjudication panel finds the price is excessive at a hearing to be held no later than March 6, it could order a cost reduction and the repaying of surplus income.
Soliris has caused waves throughout the world in recent years with its eyebrow-raising price tag, but this may be the first attempt by a regulator anywhere to force a rollback.

The company, though, denies that it has broken Canadian rules, while some experts say the regulatory process itself ignores a key fact – that provincial drug plans have already negotiated secret discounts on Soliris for many of the patients they cover.

“Alexion refutes all of the allegations in their entirety and will vigorously challenge the PMPRB’s proposed order,” it said in an emailed statement Monday. “The … allegations that Alexion charged an ‘excessive price’ for Soliris in Canada are simply wrong, and not based on sound reasoning.”

The company says it has not raised the price since Soliris first came on the market in 2009, and if the cost is lower in other countries, it’s only because of changes in the exchange rate.
Soliris and its formidable price have made Alexion something of a darling on Wall Street, generating $650-million in profit last year on sales of $2.2-billion.

All provincial drug plans now cover the cost of Soliris for the 90 or so patients in Canada with paroxysmal nocturnal hemoglobinuria (PNH), a rare disorder that destroys red blood cells, threatening organ damage, heart attacks, stroke and blood clots.
The list price is more than $500,000 annually in Canada — and treatment life-long — but the provinces banded together to negotiate a lower figure, a process since applied to several other drugs.

Allegations that Alexion charged an ‘excessive price’ for Soliris in Canada are simply wrong, and not based on sound reasoning
The discounted price, though, is kept secret at the company’s request.

Soliris has also been approved to treat atypical hemolytic uremic syndrome (aHUS), a genetic disorder believed to affect 60-90 Canadians, causing dangerous blood clots. The annual treatment cost is $700,000, according to the PMPRB. Quebec is the only province to pick up the cost for those without private coverage.

The group representing aHUS patients says it does not have a position on the price, but notes it has been a stumbling block to provincial coverage for a lifesaving medication.

“We have been waiting for two years since Soliris was approved by Health Canada and while we wait, patients’ lives continue to be at risk,” said Michael Eygenraam of aHUS Canada.
Soliris is the most striking example of a recent, controversial trend toward highly priced medications, often to treat relatively rare conditions.

The University of British Columbia’s health-policy centre has a conference on the topic planned for next month — called “Sticker Shock.”

Does it still make sense, though, for the PMPRB to regulate drug costs by comparing the published list prices in different nations? Experts say the system is relevant to workplace and other private drug plans, and to people paying out of pocket for prescription medicines, who tend to be stuck with the list price.

But it means little for provincial plans that — similar to counterparts in other countries — are negotiating lower costs behind closed doors, said Michael Law, a health-policy professor at the University of British Columbia.

“It’s like comparing the sticker price in one car dealership to the sticker price in another car dealership,” he said. “When we don’t know what the underlying bargained prices are, then we don’t know if we’re higher or lower.”

That said, the process has some value in protecting Canadians against paying more than other, similar jurisdictions, said Steve Morgan, another pharmaceutical policy expert at UBC.

“The PMPRB’s system is flawed, but it’s at least an absolute minimum safety net,” he said. “And if we’re hitting that safety net, there probably is an issue to be taken up.”


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personally, each individual should have access to universal health care provided by the people.it is disgusting that the medical business community would rather bankrupt people and allow the unfortunate to die a slow painful death to support a small group of wealthy elites.
 
peace said:
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personally, each individual should have access to universal health care provided by the people.it is disgusting that the medical business community would rather bankrupt people and allow the unfortunate to die a slow painful death to support a small group of wealthy elites.


It pays to be rich,Peace.

Nff said.
 
Prick said:
It pays to be rich,Peace.

Nff said.

They paid their dues or they stepped over many weak ones. Button line is that they are still wealthy.
 
peace said:
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personally, each individual should have access to universal health care provided by the people.it is disgusting that the medical business community would rather bankrupt people and allow the unfortunate to die a slow painful death to support a small group of wealthy elites.

Wealthy elites? I don't know about you but even though I am not part of the wealth elite I can easily go out and buy shares of Alexion Pharma.

Even a couple of minutes of digging online will show that there are a lot of investors in the company.
 
I get it and it is terrible these lazy people are taking advantages of the freebies out there but we are talking about human beings here. The pros far outweigh the cons and for that reason, universal health care should be accessible for all. Of course there are flaws everywhere and debates which system is best but when a patient shows up asking for help or need to sell of their hard worked home to cover practically 1/4 of their medial bills, the system isn't working.

Meanwhile I don't have a Porsche or mansion. Just my bike and trees...
 
peace said:
I get it and it is terrible these lazy people are taking advantages of the freebies out there but we are talking about human beings here. The pros far outweigh the cons and for that reason, universal health care should be accessible for all. Of course there are flaws everywhere and debates which system is best but when a patient shows up asking for help or need to sell of their hard worked home to cover practically 1/4 of their medial bills, the system isn't working.

Meanwhile I don't have a Porsche or mansion. Just my bike and trees...

your GST goes to pay for health care and it is failing all Canadians

so 700k for what 160 people from a sales tax of what 15%?
Sounds like pennies
 
Meanwhile your beloved American health insurance companies avoid sick patients. Highly paid underwriters detect potentially expensive patients before policies are offered. And the best way to avoid sick patients is with high policy prices.

Then one day an insurance decide to improve their over-bloated profit margins by slashing benefits. Reduced benefits both discourage sick patients from buying a policy and reduce provider payments if they do.

They pass costs to patients with increased deductibles and co-pays. Healthy patients (the ones companies want to keep) won’t notice because they don’t need health care. At least until they get sick.

Here's a famous one that many are aware of. The insurance companies are famous for delaying or denying provider payments. If the payment process is frustrating enough, many providers simply give up trying to collect. That’s money they keep.

So yes our Canadian health system is failing to some degrees but at least we, poor or rich, are covered. Regarding for profit model argument, perhaps the Americans can look at European's model but they wont go for It. Europeans enjoy better care for more people at lower cost than American do, What's even better, every policy must cover all treatable diseases. No matter what policy they purchase, patients will never risk destitution (or death) if they suffer a treatable condition.

LIike Prick said, "It pays to be rich,Peace. Nff said.

 
peace said:
Meanwhile your beloved American health insurance companies avoid sick patients. Highly paid underwriters detect potentially expensive patients before policies are offered. And the best way to avoid sick patients is with high policy prices.

Then one day an insurance decide to improve their over-bloated profit margins by slashing benefits. Reduced benefits both discourage sick patients from buying a policy and reduce provider payments if they do.


They pass costs to patients with increased deductibles and co-pays. Healthy patients (the ones companies want to keep) won’t notice because they don’t need health care. At least until they get sick.

Here's a famous one that many are aware of. The insurance companies are famous for delaying or denying provider payments. If the payment process is frustrating enough, many providers simply give up trying to collect. That’s money they keep.

So yes our Canadian health system is failing to some degrees but at least we, poor or rich, are covered. Regarding for profit model argument, perhaps the Americans can look at European's model but they wont go for It. Europeans enjoy better care for more people at lower cost than American do, What's even better, every policy must cover all treatable diseases. No matter what policy they purchase, patients will never risk destitution (or death) if they suffer a treatable condition.

LIike Prick said, "It pays to be rich,Peace. Nff said.

First of all do not compare apples to power rangers.

The question before us is the Canadian Health Care System not OBAMMA CARE.

you pay 15% in sales tax to cover health care and it does not work.

Where does the money go?
 
Prim0 said:
1. I didn't say insurance companies were the answer. Though with them, you at least have the freedom to choose one if and only you want to. It's like elective surgeries. The costs of lasik and plastic surgeries have gone down because people have to pay out of their own pockets....competition ensues and only the docs that do a good job and at a reasonable price stay in business......there are probably also some cut rate hacks out there too but that happens in every field. They are still required to have a certain competency so you're not going to have some guy of the boat putting cement in some lady's ass to make it look like J-Lo's (wait....er....). Under the Canadian system or Obama care, the individual has choice taken away.

2. Part of the high cost of health care is malpractice insurance. When courts started giving every patient a big paycheck for any little issue to go wrong with their treatments then things really started to get expensive. Doctors are not gods and people talk about how they make too much money....but at the same time, they expect doctors to be perfect. ANd if they aren't, sue the shit out of them!

3. As for caring for someone who comes in off the street.....you can try to appeal to everyone's sympathy. But what if I tell you that that person coming in off the street for some health care is doing it because he got hurt breaking into a house in order to rape a 6 year old girl. What if that person has brought in 1 of their 12 kids from 11 different fathers? What if that person decided to light up the crack pipe rather than spend the few bucks they had to buy formula for their baby? We are each responsible for our own lives and decisions. Some people are in a bad place because of their choices and some are there because of plane bad luck. Whatever the situation, shouldn't it be up to me to decide who I am willing to help? Would you like it if the government decided that penile enhancement surgery should be covered? What about breast augmentation? What about facelifts? There can be arguments made that the patients need these for their mental health and well being. Should that be paid for as well?

Government is not the answer to any of this. Forcing people into programs they don't want is not the answer. Shit, you all seem to be in agreement that the government stepping in to SAVE prostitutes is wrong, yet the majority of people out there feel that a woman would be better off not being an escort. Should the individual lady have the choice on how to live her life. Shouldn't I be allowed to decide how I want to deal with my health care. Shouldn't I be allowed to decide how I want to make charitable contributions, if any?

How can people be on one side of a freedom of choice issue here and on the opposite side over there?

Hmmmm I wonder if Canada will cover penile enhancement surgery with the "Technique"
 
papasmerf said:
First of all do not compare apples to power rangers.

The question before us is the Canadian Health Care System not OBAMMA CARE.

you pay 15% in sales tax to cover health care and it does not work.

Where does the money go?
Uhmmmmm not sure but I think it goes to the pork invader group
 
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