Boing said:
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Boing said:
tboy said:Now maybe it's just that I've become jaded over the years as to what christmas is really all about but frankly, wtf is someone doing buying $200 worth of T O Y S for a 4 yr old? That's a shit load of stuff for a 4 yr old.
I get my great niece toys from walmart or zellers and they have literally hundreds of toys for under $5.00 and some fancy electronic gadgets for around $50. The best one I got her (drove her mother nuts) was a small electric guitar that played all the riffs....for how much? $8.00 and it included batteries.
I dunno, I appreciate and applaud the good samaritans but really, do kids absolutely need all this stuff? I remember getting a fair bit as a kid (3 or 4 presents plus socks and underwear etc) but remember being just as happy getting a couple of dinky toys or hot wheels as the most expensive one.....
I think we're sending the wrong message here.....
I recall that you donated $ when you were out of work, and again I applaud that. You're probably the kind that would help build a habitat house because you're skilled in those areas which is the same as the labour is worth more than 70.00.tboy said:I feel my comments are appropriate because:
1) if you can't afford to buy something, you shouldn't......
Have you never put something on layaway or hold? It's usually not a big deal, but some do get over their
heads?
2) I dont' know what you mean by "decent" toys.....I'm there quite often buying for kids and you can get great stuff for under $10.00. I bought my niece a learning computer for $18.00 when she was young.....and yes, I'd get one expensive gift worth maybe $10.00 and the rest would be (like I said) dinky cars or hot wheels at $0.79 each.
By decent, I mean quality or brand (lego, barbie). $10.00 when you and I were kids would be how much now? Yes, I had the .79 hotwheels/matchbox cars too.
3) I don't know if you're familiar with kids these days but from what I hear from my niece (about my great niece) and other parents is that 99% of the stuff the kids get aren't touched again after Christmas week.....for example: my great niece is....4 now, on Christmas morning she tears into presents, looks at it for a second, tears into the next, and so on. There's usually ONE present that she'll pick up and play with the rest of the day. The rest? Forgotten..... Tboy, kids have been doing that for decades if not longer. As an example, when I was a youngster sitting with my parents making my list which was easy as I was allowed to ask for 2 toys for Xmas, which were star wars related. There was always lego or mechano, dinky cars and sports gear. My stocking had fruit and candy, and I gave my dad the candy as I didn't eat it.
Yes, I have been jaded by the commercialism that is rampant at Christmas and have felt this way for 30 yrs or more but that doesn't change the fact that so many are going into debt for things that are simply thrown out down the road. Specially when there are kids around who would be happy with ONE $2.00 present........
Well 64 years ago, Miracle on 34th was made and it concentrated on commercialism then, so what has been learned? I consider debt and layaway different things; however, layaway can become a debt burden. If I put something on layaway, it's just to ensure the item will be there when my pay comes. You're assuming that all kids discard their toys immediately or not long after; it's not all that way. I agree there are many that would be content with 5.00 toys, crayons, colouring books, blank paper.
Do you consider your niece to be a good parent? What I mean is does she take the time to teach her child about caring for and cleaning up her toys or does she let things slide? That's not a shot at her either. A friend of mine who has a 6 year old son does it right, if the toys aren't cleaned up or cared for, they go into the garbage not to be replaced. It's happened twice in 6 years.
I had a really good year a few years ago and my gf was working at a bar and they were collecting for the chum Christmas wish. I put aside $300.00 to buy gifts for toddlers, 7-10 and teens. I bought things like walkmans, curling irons, hair dryers, the latest doll, and baby toys. I filled my pickup to the brim and it took 4 people 20 minutes to empty. When put on the donation table (30" wide x 7' long) the stack was about 3 feet high. We've discussed this before and I applaud your altruism just as I applaud the woman who paid the remaining 70.00 for a stranger. That was an act of kindness. We don't know if the mom is in dire straits, I believe the article said she is a nurse, but we don't know her story. I know many that go over the top at Christmas and struggle for 1-2 months paying it all off, but it's the only time of year they do it. If she loses her deposit that's her problem, if the toy isn't there that's her problem too. The kind soul who helped her out isn't concerned about 70.00 nobody forced her to act.
Anyhow, it isn't that I don't think the good samaritans are good, it's just that example of $200 for a 4 yr old tells me someone is overspending...by a LOT......
Big guy with a big heart.
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