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LAKE COUNTY, Fla. — Lake County Sheriff's Office deputies shot and killed a man they assumed was an attempted murder suspect on Sunday, but they now know they shot the wrong man.

In the early-morning hours, deputies knocked on 26-year-old Andrew Lee Scott's door without identifying themselves as law enforcement officers. Scott answered the door with a gun in his hand.

"When we knocked on the door, the door opened and the occupant of that apartment was pointing a gun at deputies, and that's when we opened fire and killed him," Lt. John Herrell said. "Even though this subject is not the one we were looking for when he opened the door. He was pointing the gun at the deputy and if you put yourselves in the deputy's shoes. They were there to pick up someone who was wanted for an attempted homicide."

Officials said the deputies did not identify themselves because of safety reasons.
Deputies thought they were confronting Jonathan Brown, a man accused of attempted murder. Brown was spotted at the Blueberry Hills Apartment complex and his motorcycle was parked across from Andrew Scott's front door.

"It's just a bizarre set of circumstances. The bottom line is, you point a gun at a deputy sheriff or police office, you're going to get shot," Herrell said.
Residents said the unannounced knock at the door at 1:30 a.m. may be the reason why the tragedy happened.

"He was the wrong guy and he got shot and killed anyway. There's fault on both sides. I think more so on the county," Ryan Perry said. "I can understand why he [the deputy] did it, but it should have never gone down like that," Perry said.

Scott's friend, LeMac Blount said he thinks law enforcement acted too quickly.

"I think because his motorcycle was parked in front of Andrew's door, it wasn't safe to assume that that was where he was at. I think they should of took other precautions," said Blout.
Brown was arrested near the same building where Scott was shot. Brown and another suspect in the same case, Anthony Rodriguez, were booked into the Lake County Jail over the weekend.

The Florida Department of Law Enforcement is handling the investigation of the shooting and the deputy who fired, as well as the two who were on the scene with him, are on administrative leave.

Reprinted with permission from WESH

https://www.policeone.com/news/5827342-Fla-deputies-shoot-kill-man-after-knocking-on-wrong-door/
 
Wazzap said:
They fucked up.

If you answer a door with a gun drawn, whoever is on the other side has to assume the worst.
The only person that fucked up is the dead guy.
Sad story but its done.
 
Jesus Quintana said:
If you answer a door with a gun drawn, whoever is on the other side has to assume the worst.
The only person that fucked up is the dead guy.
Sad story but its done.

If somebody knocks at your door at 1:30 am. You peek through a window is see 3 or 4 men not in uniform on the other side. You have a gun, you don't think you would be tempted to answer the door with your gun because you may be thinking it's a possible home invasion? This one is a tough one because I could see the Deputy's reasoning but it was still their mistake and an innocent man is dead.
 
Dan said:
If somebody knocks at your door at 1:30 am. You peek through a window is see 3 or 4 men not in uniform on the other side. You have a gun, you don't think you would be tempted to answer the door with your gun because you may be thinking it's a possible home invasion? This one is a tough one because I could see the Deputy's reasoning but it was still their mistake and an innocent man is dead.

I'd yell out "WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU!" not open the door with my gun drawn.
 
Jesus Quintana said:
I'd yell out "WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU!" not open the door with my gun drawn.

exactly!!!! unless of course you're itching for a fight, in which case, he got one, and lost.....

A sad day but a prime reason for stricter gun control in the US...the ONLY reason this guy is dead is because of their lenient controls......sure, Mr Homeowner was well within his rights to own and draw his firearm, unfortunately for him, so were the police and they were quicker on the draw than he was.

Whether the police had the right door or not, the ONLY reason he's dead is by his own hand, and his decision to point his gun at someone......

Now of course we're going to hear from you know who blasting the cops.....but no matter what, the cops knocking on the wrong door didn't kill him, him coming to the door pointing a handgun did....plain and simple.
 
I read a bunch of tweets about that shooting in Toronto last night and several mentioned that we need more gun control.
Poor stupid people.
Gun control doesn't stop stupidity.
 
Officials said the deputies did not identify themselves because of safety reasons.

Say what? The cops didn't identify themselves? Usually I'm pro police but that is major cause for concern for me.
 
Officials said the deputies did not identify themselves because of safety reasons.

Say what? The cops didn't identify themselves? Usually I'm pro police but that is major cause for concern for me.

maybe because they knew the suspect would simply open fire through the door? But seriously, cops don't identify themselves all the time....while going undercover to investigate crime......same reason: because it would be dangerous for them to do so.......
 
Officials said the deputies did not identify themselves because of safety reasons.

Say what? The cops didn't identify themselves? Usually I'm pro police but that is major cause for concern for me.

You took the words right out of my head. For all we know the dead man might have done exactly as Jesus suggested. Once the police didn't identify themselves he may have thought he was about to get killed. Either way he's dead but a good amount of the blame has to go to the Police. Imagine being at home and having a little too much to drink. You're not hurting anyone just drinking and smoking a doobie when all of a sudden a battering ram is used on your door and guns pointed at you. NOW NORMALLY you would throw yourself on the ground and not move but in a drunken state of mind things might turn out differently and the cops had the wrong house. It's scary shit, NOT THAT I EVER drink and smoke ganja!Hmmmmmm

Hmmm, I'm surprised our resident google lawyer hasn't chimed in on this thread, plus I could use a little more ganja!:biggrin2:
 
Did they use a battering ram on his door? i don't remember reading that in the story.....I seem to recall they just knocked.....

In the scenario you proposed, well, sober or not, if guns were pointed at you and you moved, you might get shot......usually cops yell "freeze" or "don't move...." and if you do? well then, ahem, darwinism working once again....

You ever notice that whenever someone gets into trouble with the cops, 9 times out of 10 THEY do something against the cop's orders? Now sure, you could argue that they had no right to enter your house, in error or not, but none the less, you still might get shot or killed.....

I have a theory that serves me well: when someone holding a gun pointed at you says something, you don't fucking argue with him.....you do exactly what they say.....anyone who decides to wave their hands about, make sudden moves, or reach for something is a fucking idiot and deserves to be shot....plus that isn't the time to start arguing law with them either......

We, as citizens, empower the police, and when they execute that power that isn't the time to argue whether they in fact have that power or not, that is the time to comply completely with them. The time to make sudden movements, argue your rights, whatever is after they holster their weapons......what part of that don't people understand?
 
Did they use a battering ram on his door? i don't remember reading that in the story.....I seem to recall they just knocked.....

In the scenario you proposed, well, sober or not, if guns were pointed at you and you moved, you might get shot......usually cops yell "freeze" or "don't move...." and if you do? well then, ahem, darwinism working once again....

You ever notice that whenever someone gets into trouble with the cops, 9 times out of 10 THEY do something against the cop's orders? Now sure, you could argue that they had no right to enter your house, in error or not, but none the less, you still might get shot or killed.....

I have a theory that serves me well: when someone holding a gun pointed at you says something, you don't fucking argue with him.....you do exactly what they say.....anyone who decides to wave their hands about, make sudden moves, or reach for something is a fucking idiot and deserves to be shot....plus that isn't the time to start arguing law with them either......

We, as citizens, empower the police, and when they execute that power that isn't the time to argue whether they in fact have that power or not, that is the time to comply completely with them. The time to make sudden movements, argue your rights, whatever is after they holster their weapons......what part of that don't people understand?

T I agree with you except in this particular case the dead man didn't know it was the cops! He lost any way you look at it because he's dead but I think the cops have to be held accountable to a certain extent in this particular situation.
 
The dude had a guilty conscience to begin with. Paranoid, on drugs, drunk?. Who knows but like the majority here I agree that You don't point a gun at strangers at 1:30 am and not expect some type of reaction to the action.
 
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