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LA JAVIE, France - An Airbus operated by Lufthansa's Germanwings budget airline crashed in a remote snowy area of the French Alps on Tuesday and all 150 on board were feared dead.

French President Francois Hollande said he believed none of those on board the A320 had survived, while the head of Lufthansa spoke of a dark day for the German airline.
Germanwings confirmed its flight 4U9525 from Barcelona to Duesseldorf crashed in the French Alps with 144 passengers and six crew members on board.

Hollande said: "The conditions of the accident, which have not yet been clarified, lead us to think there are no survivors."
Officials said the plane issued a distress call at 0947 GMT, about 52 minutes after take-off. The accident happened in a snow-clad alpine area that is hard for rescue services to reach.

Hollande said there were likely to be significant numbers of Germans on the flight. Spain's deputy prime minister said 45 passengers had Spanish names.
It was the first crash of a large passenger jet on French soil since the Concorde disaster just outside Paris in July 2000. The A320 is a workhorse of worldwide aviation fleets. They are the world's most used passenger jets and have a good though not unblemished safety record.
"DARK DAY"

Lufthansa Chief Executive Carsten Spohr spoke of a "dark day" for the airline.
"We do not yet know what has happened to flight 4U9525. My deepest sympathy goes to the families and friends of our passengers and crew," Lufthansa said on Twitter, citing Spohr.

"If our fears are confirmed, this is a dark day for Lufthansa. We hope to find survivors," it said.
A spokesman for France's DGAC aviation authority said the airliner crashed near the town of Barcelonnette about 100 km (65 miles) north of the French Riviera city of Nice.
French and German accident investigators were heading for the crash site in Meolans-Revel, a remote and sparsely inhabited commune in the foothills of the French Alps.

German Transport Minister Alexander Dobrindt would also travel to the crash site, a ministry spokesman said.
Airbus said it was aware of reports of the crash.

"We are aware of the media reports," Airbus said on Twitter. "All efforts are now going towards assessing the situation. We will provide further information as soon as available."
Officials at Barcelona airport said the flight took off at 0855 GMT. Families of those on board the plane were gathering at a specially prepared building there.

The crashed A320 is 24 years old -- at the upper end of useful life of an aircraft in first-tier airlines -- and has been with the parent Lufthansa group since 1991, according to online database airfleets.net.

https://www.torontosun.com/2015/03/24/germanwings-plane-crashes-in-southern-france-police
 
I will admit there have been a few too many planes falling out if the sky in the past 24 months.
 
[video]https://www.cnn.com/2015/03/25/europe/germanwings-crash-main/index.html[/video]
 
It would seem either Pilot suicide or decompression in the cabin knocking the one pilot maybe a medical emergency. All I know is I'm glad I'm not scheduled to fly anytime soon.
 
It sure does make one think twice about flying. Years ago a flight I was in dropped 50ft. during a stretch of turbulence. I thought I was a goner!
 
The co-pilot of the German airliner that crashed in the southern French Alps apparently locked the chief pilot out of the cockpit and caused the plane to crash, as passengers could be heard screaming, a French prosecutor said Thursday.
The co-pilot of Germanwings Flight 4U92595, identified as a 28-year-old German national named Andreas Lubitz, appeared to want to "destroy the plane," Marseille prosecutor Brice Robin said. The co-pilot was breathing and alive until the plane hit the ground, Robin said.

The Airbus A320, on a flight from Barcelona to Duesseldorf, began to descend from its cruising altitude and slammed into a remote mountainside in the French Alps on Tuesday, killing all 150 people on board.
Lufthansa chief executive Carsten Spohr said he has been left "speechless" by the revelations about the plane's co-pilot.


Lubitz pilot had been alone in the cockpit after the chief pilot left to use the washroom. Robin said audio recovered from the the cockpit voice recorder indicated that the co-pilot didn't say a word while he was alone in control of the plane.
"It was absolute silence in the cockpit," he said.
The chief pilot tried to get back into the cockpit but was unable to regain access.
Robin said Lubitz apparently pushed a button that put the plane into a descent. The jet dropped thousands of metres before it hit the ground.
In the final minutes of the flight, terrain warning alarms sounded and pounding could be heard on the cockpit door, Robin said.
The plane did not respond to communication from air traffic controllers and did not issue a distress call before it crashed, he added.
Just before the crash, screams could be heard on the audio recording, the prosecutor told reporters.
Since the Sept. 11 attacks, it has been standard operating procedure for airlines in the United States to require a flight attendant to be present in the cockpit when one of the pilots briefly leaves. Spohr said airlines in Europe do not have that requirement.
[h=2]No signs of depression[/h]Lubitz had never been flagged as a terrorist, Robin said. He declined to provide details on Lubitz's religion or ethnic background, adding that German authorities are taking charge of the investigation into the co-pilot.
German Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere said authorities checked intelligence and police databases on the day of the crash, and Lufthansa told them that regular security checks also turned up nothing untoward on the co-pilot.
Speaking at a news conference in Cologne, Spohr said the airline had no indication of why the co-pilot would have crashed the plane.
"We choose our staff very, very carefully," Spohr said.
The airline's pilots undergo yearly medical examination but that doesn't include psychological tests, he told reporters.
In the German town of Montabaur, acquaintances said Lubitz showed no signs of depression when they saw him last fall as he renewed his glider pilot's licence.


"He was happy he had the job with Germanwings, and he was doing well," said a member of the glider club, Peter Ruecker, who watched him learn to fly. "He gave off a good feeling."
Lubitz had obtained his glider pilot's licence as a teenager and was accepted as a Lufthansa pilot trainee after finishing a tough German college preparatory school, Ruecker said. He described Lubitz as a "rather quiet" but friendly young man.

© The Associated Press, 2015
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This is the co-pilot.

[h=1]Germanwings killer co-pilot Andreas Lubitz had to STOP his training in 2008 because he was depressed and suffering 'burnout'[/h]
  • Andreas Lubitz always dreamed of becoming an Airline passenger pilot
  • He qualified from the Lufthansa training school in September 2013
  • Friends said Lubitz was really pleased he was working for Germanwings
  • Prosecutors confirmed Lubitz intentionally crashed the jet killing everyone


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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...eptional-flying-skills-rising-star-fleet.html
 
The system does have a glaring flaw.

There are two codes a pilot can use. The first buzzes the cockpit to let the pilot know someone wants in, they trigger the door.

The second code a pilot can use triggers what reportedly is a very loud and obnoxious alarm. It sounds for 30 seconds and with no input from someone on the cockpit it will unlock the door. It is supposed to be a medical type bypass so a pilot can get into the cockpit if the other one becomes incapacitated.

The flaw is someone with malicious intent in the cockpit can simply activate the lock lever and it locks out the bypass code for 5 minutes.

They are reporting that the buzzers can be heard on the recording of the Germanair flight, the co-pilot was triggering the bypass lockout to keep the pilot out.

How they can implement a third fail safe, something that will trigger a immediate door unlock but still be somewhat blind for security reasons?.

Maybe this.

There are typically 2 or more attendants on a regular flight, before each flight every attendant should enter a private pin into the system.

The system at random would select one of the attendant pins to be used as a door lock safety, being partially blind no one on the plane, including the attendants and pilots, would know exactly what attendants pin was selected and what the number is.

In the event of pilot distress/suicide like the Germanair flight, the pilot would have to enter the second bypass code first, then within the 30 seconds the flight attendants would try their safety pin one by one.

Once the correct safety pin was entered the cockpit door would instantly unlock, ideally autopilot would instantly take over ignoring control input to stabilize the plane at a safe speed and altitude.

Pilot smashes the other pilot in the head with a fire extinguisher and retakes control of the aircraft.

As the attendant safety pin would not work without the bypass code first an attendant with malicious intent couldn't get in the cockpit.

As it would be unknown who's attendant code works it protects against hostage taking, even the attendants don't known who's pin was selected and they can intentionally enter the wrong pins if a hijacker were to capture a pilot outside of the cockpit door.

Above all you engage more people into the process making it harder to corrupt than it is right now with the two pilots able to lock each other out. It gives everyone on the flight more protection from a fucked up pilot if a system like this was in place.
 
All I can think about is how those poor people must have felt for the 8 long minutes it took for the plane to descend.

:Crying/:
 
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