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:Crying2:Backpages raised it's posting fee again to 3$ a post. when all the controversy arose with it's legalities it went from 2$ to free. Then a 1$, then 2$, now 3$. This company makes millions monthly, possibly daily, just off of escort ads, they're international I believe. I wish someone would come along and give them competition:Praying: Surprised no one has, must be a hard thing to run?
 
HOOKED said:
You see how increases in rates upsets you. :wink2:

you see why we have to........

@God-I believe it was craigslist years ago, now, no one
 
In Montreal it is 5$ an ad. It is city dependent. Which pissed me off even more.
 
If you are getting customers from the ads, then they are providing a service to you below your threshold, right?

They should be charging double.
 
thanks Escape, I like Leo's list/site but you are right it hasn't caught on here unfortunately. It's easy to use liberal, and is inexpensive. I do get occasional clients from there but nothing compared to BP.
 
It's all different depending on what city. In KW area it went from $7 an ad to free, to $1, $2 and just last week up to $3. Toronto seems to be $3. The NYC girls were complaining it's $27 a post down there. That's just crazy
 
I can't imagine 7$ let alone 27$, ridiculous is right. It's easy for some to say you gotta spend to make, of course you do, but we have to have profit as well. Clients complain, well some complain, when we up our rates, yet many don't realize our costs involved in opperating. When you factor in all we spend, it leaves little margin to add labor costs, which imo are priceless!!
and Mal don't respond again with stupid comments saying escorting is the easiest business out there, as you've done before, because until you're a women and until you're a woman doing this, you'll never grasp our side of things!!
 
Ok, potential dumb question here... but wouldn't advertising costs go down when your stable of regulars increase? I've heard some SPs say they they're busy enough with their regs that they don't advertise or vet many new clients. One SP even told me that she was gonna "vet the hell out of me" before agreeing to see me.
 
ERecTile said:
Ok, potential dumb question here... but wouldn't advertising costs go down when your stable of regulars increase? I've heard some SPs say they they're busy enough with their regs that they don't advertise or vet many new clients. One SP even told me that she was gonna "vet the hell out of me" before agreeing to see me.

I can't understand why you would put up with having the vet beat out of you when you can call Mirage, JerseyGirls, Sassy's, Roommates....no hassles, gorgeous ladies, great service and less expensive. Gentlemen, get your heads out of your asses!:don'twantto-see:/
 
ERecTile said:
Ok, potential dumb question here... but wouldn't advertising costs go down when your stable of regulars increase? I've heard some SPs say they they're busy enough with their regs that they don't advertise or vet many new clients. One SP even told me that she was gonna "vet the hell out of me" before agreeing to see me.

Most small businesses cost over $8,000 per month to run, not including labour. So, when SPs claim that $5 per ad or $7 or even $27 is too much, it makes me laugh.

Even renting a condo at $3,000 per month is nothing compared to most commercial rentals.

SPs don't live in the real world.
 
When you sign a commercial lease, you usually sign for a minimum of 5 years. Bigger players sign for at least 10 and many sign for 20 to 30 years.

When I signed my lease, I comitted to 10 years at $48,000 per year plus escalations. I sold things for less than $5 per unit. I had to work my ass of to make my expenses and a profit.
 
MisterAsianLover said:
SPs don't live in the real world.

and that's why you favor them, reality for you is hard to face
 
Robintheboywonder said:
. Gentlemen, get your heads out of your asses!:don'twantto-see:/


If I could bend that much I'd be in the circus!
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Do you ladies find BP useful?

I gave it a brief try 3 yrs ago (when it was $10/ad) and would get bombarded with 25-30 texts (not phonecalls like my ad states new clients need to do) within a 2-3 hr timeframe. This is because they're surfing at work. Why they couldn't call me on their break or arrange a convenient time to call via text is beyond me. I was lucky if even one of them had taken two minutes to read my ad re: services (allowed then as pre Bill C-36), prices, etc. I found it to be more hassle than it was worth.

Have things changed?

P.S. Robin and Others,

I'm an old school SP that doesn't require references or work info. in lieu of lack of references, only that you call me and talk to me like a human being for our initial contact, which as can be seen few are willing to do. I also ask that before I drive 45 min's to 1 hr, not including time spent packing for an outcall to TO, that a client give me their full name so that I can call the hotel and verify they're present and accounted for by being put through to their rm. before heading out.

The difference is that I don't have a driver possibly waiting for me downstairs if something goes wrong or an agency backing me, so require a little more assurance. I've been doing this for some years and am completely trustworthy and reliable. However, I might as well be starting out fresh given the attitude of many potential clients. Why contact us for an appointment if we're too far for you to travel, over your budget, require a phone call and you're at work, etc., etc., etc.? Every day I have my time completely wasted and still I don't ask for more info. than the basics (first name so I can refer to you as something other than 'hey you', cell # which is needed upon your arrival at my incall, email if prebooking as it's a more discrete way to communicate if clarification is needed prior to meeting and a last name if booking an outcall for hotel verification). It's to protect myself and for no other reason. Like I said, I'm independent and don't have an agency fielding my calls, providing me with an incall location and driver and basically backing me on the boards.

On the red board agency girls who aren't in blue can post ad nauseum (something I never did), drumming up business for themselves but if I post a simple "thank you" to a comment concerning me by a member as a non paid SP the post is removed. I think you'll all agree that appreciation for a review should be allowed either way. The agencies appear to have all the power there.

Forgive me for the rant, but the atmosphere is changing drastically post Bill C-36. This isn't a Cold War between SPs and members/clients. We as Independents are just trying to protect ourselves against the very negative attitudes we're receiving from some members. It appears from the outside looking in that members are less likely to give agencies the run around as they are us. Oh well, I messed up and can't see Sophia vs. Mirage has blacklisted me and that probably means Eye Candy as well. Big difference! This is why there are more posts in the PSA section of the red board by Indies than by Agencies. Maybe I should start asking for handles and references as well! If I had references for an outcall I wouldn't feel the need to call the hotel to verify, etc.
 
Sophia Sinclair said:


Forgive me for the rant, but the atmosphere is changing drastically post Bill C-36. This isn't a Cold War between SPs and members/clients. We as Independents are just trying to protect ourselves against the very negative attitudes we're receiving from some members. It appears from the outside looking in that members are less likely to give agencies the run around as they are us. Oh well, I messed up and can't see Sophia vs. Mirage has blacklisted me and that probably means Eye Candy as well. Big difference! Maybe I should start asking for handles and references as well! If I had references for an outcall I wouldn't feel the need to call the hotel to verify, etc.

I feel bad for you and the ladies when it comes to screening but the issue is BillC36. The law squarely puts the target on the clients back.

99% of men are not violent johns and don't want to be considered violent bad people the way some indies are acting based on their insistence on screening but I do understand their need to feel safe. I've heard of some very good clients that have been refused services during the screening process by some indies which leaves some of us scratching our heads.

Twitter is revealing quite a bit about some of the anti client attitudes we've always suspected from this side of the table. It's sort of puts the shine out of paying for a fantasy anymore because the hatred of men is very obvious from the banter and it's really about the $$$$ which isn't necessarily a bad thing but it shouldn't be so obvious from a marketing perspective.
 
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