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He should not be banned....Why if you go back to threads .....
There were naming calling on both sides....
So if you banned him then you should ban all who did the same thing....
In fun or spite .......Fair is Fair...

No its not the name calling he should be banned for. He should be banned because:
a) he is a ficticious character i.e. an obvious troll (as SG says "why is he here". Or;
b) preaches hatred against gays (unlike blissfull I don't feel he is entitled to preach his hate around here).

Neither a or b is useful or raises the profile of HUBGFE, in fact it lowers it considerably.
 
No its not the name calling he should be banned for. He should be banned because:
a) he is a ficticious character i.e. an obvious troll (as SG says "why is he here". Or;
b) preaches hatred against gays (unlike blissfull I don't feel he is entitled to preach his hate around here).

Neither a or b is useful or raises the profile of HUBGFE, in fact it lowers it considerably.
yet we all have the choice to read and follow threads.

Seems to me that you too have that option.

were any threats made other than the request for banning him?

were anything other than personal opinion offered?

not a big BAZ fan so I have to ask
 
No its not the name calling he should be banned for. He should be banned because:
a) he is a ficticious character i.e. an obvious troll (as SG says "why is he here". Or;
b) preaches hatred against gays (unlike blissfull I don't feel he is entitled to preach his hate around here).

Neither a or b is useful or raises the profile of HUBGFE, in fact it lowers it considerably.

He did not preach hatred he merely stated his opinion, dude lighten up. I agree he's in the wrong forum but let's not get carried away here. Did you go nuts too when Rob Ford snubbed the gay parade, same thing really.
 
Train....first it gives people a learning tool to deal with issues like this.....
Ideas and responses that, when others are face with, can use arguments
that they seen posted here....Also if he is a troll which I do not think so,
it show that we can have a discussion around topics the troll thinks he
is causing problems.....If other trolls come along instead of saying troll, troll troll,
just build on what they are posting either in fun or as a learning tool...

We can learn from others....even if it is negative....that is why I wrote the comment
about I would rather him write it.......Instead of me being upset what he has said,
he is anti gay, read his words....I look at the response that people have written...
the positive response.....there are more positive than negative....why would I just
dwell one a negative response.....It is how you look at the situation and how you
decide the best way of dealing with it in a positive way......
 
I think we should let Tboy handle Baz. I'm sure T can show Baz the errors of his ways!:biggrin2:
 
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Sorry Femme, homosexuality isn't just an orientation, it is also a lifestyle. Now you could (will?) argue that it isn't, but generally speaking, if you're gay, you're pretty flambouyant, wear lots of pink, generally are neat, have mannerisms etc that are pretty obvious. You also probably habituate gay clubs etc. I say all this in the manner that being a punk rocker was a lifestyle, With the hair, the clothes, the manner of dress, clubs etc.

Wow - That is a total generalization............

Homosexuality is not a lifestyle. That is my opinion. You do not choose to be gay or straight. You are what you are, the rest is filler for life.

It is also my opinion that if God didn't like homosexuals, he wouldn't have created them.
 
No its not the name calling he should be banned for. He should be banned because:
a) he is a ficticious character i.e. an obvious troll (as SG says "why is he here". Or;
b) preaches hatred against gays (unlike blissfull I don't feel he is entitled to preach his hate around here).

Neither a or b is useful or raises the profile of HUBGFE, in fact it lowers it considerably.

I'm sorry you feel this way Train. This board has been quite the learning experience for me. When I first joined I admittingly joined with the wrong mind frame and attitude. I came in thinking I would be a white knight and save everyone but I've realized that is not my calling. I was once banned for mentioning Chokemychicken'S real name. I was very uncomfortable using handles when I first arrived. I had ok'd this with the member via pm as well and we had met in a formal setting but the powers that be were not aware of this and pulled my membership. I asked Chokemychicken to please notify the administrator and forward him our pms which he did and this led to my pardon. I was given one strict condition by the administrator for my return which was to not interfere in any of the reviews. I can read but not interject any negative comments, which I believe I have lived up to, albeit it was hard at the beginning to not comment.

I have not nor do I want to entice hatred towards anyone or wish harm upon anyone so I do find your comments offensive. I also do not appreciate being called a fictitious character. I thought I had proven myself attending the party. Fullthrottle is correct, I did meet him outside. Once I was inside I shook hands with Shiek and purchased raffle tickets which I gave to a gentleman standing beside me. I introduced myself to Shiek by the name Brent and told him I felt bad I forgot to bring an unwrapped toy so I thought it was my duty to buy the tickets. Shiek was being pulled in all direction and he didn't really seem to acknowledge me but that is understandable. The gentleman I passed the tickets on too introduced himself as Senor Gomes. I would think if you think I'm fictional then Shiek, Senor Gomes and Fullthrottle are non existent as well.

In any event this will be my last post this month. Ida and myself are taking a 2 week Caribbean holiday and upon return I will be playing catch up at work. I'm sure I won't be missed but I wish everyone the very best!
 
I'm sorry you feel this way Train. This board has been quite the learning experience for me. When I first joined I admittingly joined with the wrong mind frame and attitude. I came in thinking I would be a white knight and save everyone but I've realized that is not my calling. I was once banned for mentioning Chokemychicken'S real name. I was very uncomfortable using handles when I first arrived. I had ok'd this with the member via pm as well and we had met in a formal setting but the powers that be were not aware of this and pulled my membership. I asked Chokemychicken to please notify the administrator and forward him our pms which he did and this led to my pardon. I was given one strict condition by the administrator for my return which was to not interfere in any of the reviews. I can read but not interject any negative comments, which I believe I have lived up to, albeit it was hard at the beginning to not comment.

I have not nor do I want to entice hatred towards anyone or wish harm upon anyone so I do find your comments offensive. I also do not appreciate being called a fictitious character. I thought I had proven myself attending the party. Fullthrottle is correct, I did meet him outside. Once I was inside I shook hands with Shiek and purchased raffle tickets which I gave to a gentleman standing beside me. I introduced myself to Shiek by the name Brent and told him I felt bad I forgot to bring an unwrapped toy so I thought it was my duty to buy the tickets. Shiek was being pulled in all direction and he didn't really seem to acknowledge me but that is understandable. The gentleman I passed the tickets on too introduced himself as Senor Gomes. I would think if you think I'm fictional then Shiek, Senor Gomes and Fullthrottle are non existent as well.

In any event this will be my last post this month. Ida and myself are taking a 2 week Caribbean holiday and upon return I will be playing catch up at work. I'm sure I won't be missed but I wish everyone the very best!

What! You bought tickets and didn't give them to me!

I'm glad you didn't put my handle in there because I'm not fictional!

Please tell Ida that I hope you enjoy your cruise. Stay safe.
 
In any event this will be my last post this month. Ida and myself are taking a 2 week Caribbean holiday and upon return I will be playing catch up at work. I'm sure I won't be missed but I wish everyone the very best!

Please bring back pics of Ida on the beach or it never happened!!
 
Wow - That is a total generalization............

Homosexuality is not a lifestyle. That is my opinion. You do not choose to be gay or straight. You are what you are, the rest is filler for life.

It is also my opinion that if God didn't like homosexuals, he wouldn't have created them.

[h=2]life·style[/h] /ˈlaɪfˌstaɪl/ Show Spelled [lahyf-stahyl] noun 1. the habits, attitudes, tastes, moral standards, economic level, etc., that together constitute the mode of living of an individual or group.

Sorry, most of the homosexuals (gay and lesbian) I've met and worked with all have similar tastes, standards, attitudes, habits etc generally associated with being gay. Now the only real difference is economic level, some were quite well off, some not so much.
 
I am with femme on this one as I believe you were born into it. I am sure there are those who are curious about homosexuality or just fall in love with whomever the person is regardless of the gender.....but when one tells me that homosexuaity is a choice, sorry I disagree. YOu were born into it.
Regarding lifestyle.....thats a different issue. If they dress or act the same, it is perhaps the community they are involved with follows a particular trend.
 
Does it really matter if it's a lifestyle or someone is born with it? It's an individual's choice how they live their life and it's as simple as that. Who cares, do whatever floats your boat but I do agree with Baz on one thing and this applies to Baz as well as others; don't shove your ideas, your politics, your morals and your expectations down my throat. I go by do what you want and leave me alone to do what I want!
 
. . . don't shove your ideas, your politics, your morals and your expectations down my throat . . .

. . . unless you're a lovely lady and your expectations centre on your clitoris. In which case feel free to abuse me.
 
. . . unless you're a lovely lady and your expectations centre on your clitoris. In which case feel free to abuse me.

Clitorises belonging to lovely ladies are an exception to the rule and may be shoved in my face anytime!:shout:
 
Wow - That is a total generalization............

Homosexuality is not a lifestyle. That is my opinion. You do not choose to be gay or straight. You are what you are, the rest is filler for life.

It is also my opinion that if God didn't like homosexuals, he wouldn't have created them.

Wow, how do you know is a he and not she? Better yet, God could be a he/she or she/he!:wink2:

Anyway, there is no god. I've been praying since I was 2 years old and nothing! Hmmm, god, santa, easter bunny and tooth fairy what a bunch of baloney and not the good kind.
 
In any event this will be my last post this month. Ida and myself are taking a 2 week Caribbean holiday and upon return I will be playing catch up at work. I'm sure I won't be missed but I wish everyone the very best!

There is no mention of a cruise Hof, maybe Baz and Ida are spending 2 weeks at a Nudist resort in the Caribbean?
 
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