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There are those who think of homeopathy or naturopathic medicine as pseudoscience having placebo effects and no biological plausibility. Some are virulent opposers, others believe it has it's place and rely on it as their only form of healing.
I believe that traditional medicine is meant to treat symptoms and treats in a one size fits all type of approach, but still has it's place. Homeopath seeks to understand the symptoms and heal the whole body, with an approach of finding a remedy that is unique to each individual. The only problem for many in Canada is traditional medicine is free, well, we pay for it through taxes, but when a doctor is seen it is at no cost at the time. When seeking other treatments, homeopathic or naturopathic, those can be expensive and are billed at the time of your visit/illness. So for those who rely on Homeopath/naturopath-no money-no treatment.
Are you pro or con homeopath, naturopath. Do you believe they should both be consulted when seeking medical care and why can't homeopath/naturopathic medicine be included in our medical plans?
I don't have any medical coverage, as I'm self employed . It is my understanding that naturopathic or homeopathic treatment costs can't even be used as a tax deduction....correct me if I'm wrong, thanks:)
 
Please don't even go there. Homeopathy is a joke almost brain washing the weak ones. Remember this: If it doesn't have a side effect it won't work.
 
Wanker said:
Please don't even go there. Homeopathy is a joke almost brain washing the weak ones. Remember this: If it doesn't have a side effect it won't work.

I'm surprised by your answer, especially your belief concerning side effects. I've had success with homeopathic treatments vs traditional in the past, so I can't agree and I certainly wasn't brainwashed. But, as in everything opinions and outcomes will differ. I'm once again trying both for treatment for allergies, since the traditional antihistamines aren't working. I'm awaiting an appt for an allergist and with my homeopath. I'll fill you in on my outcome should you be interested.:)
 
Wanker said:
Please don't even go there. Homeopathy is a joke almost brain washing the weak ones. Remember this: If it doesn't have a side effect it won't work.

A few people have told me that. It is all in your head though, if you believe it MAY work otherwise a waste of money.

Just like organic foods. Really, they are selling organic bananas. You plan to eat the skin?.
 
Domingo said:
A few people have told me that. It is all in your head though, if you believe it MAY work otherwise a waste of money.

Just like organic foods. Really, they are selling organic bananas. You plan to eat the skin?.

But I've been told, and I don't know how true it is so, that if a food, friut or veg, is sprayed with or touched by pesticides, or other "stuff" that whats on it is in it. I'd rather be safer than sorry.
 
cristycurves said:
But I've been told, and I don't know how true it is so, that if a food, friut or veg, is sprayed with or touched by pesticides, or other "stuff" that whats on it is in it. I'd rather be safer than sorry.

Safer that what Ms. Cristy. For a century no one died from eating food that had these chemicals. All it is a cash grab. You really thing there is a different paying $8 for organic eggs instead or $3?.

Just don't tell mama chicken.
 
Prick;691246 For a century no one died from eating food that had these chemicals. [/QUOTE said:
How do we know? I'm sure it's fair to say some diseases can be attributed to things we ingest and shouldn't. Food that is organically raised, actually organically raised, not just labelled as such simply tastes better, so if it is also healthier, double bonus.
 
every wonder why fads like organic foods and homeopathy only exist in first world countries?.
 
Canada-Man said:
every wonder why fads like organic foods and homeopathy only exist in first world countries?.

Third world populations have no choice but to eat organic and practice natural medicines because they can't afford or don't have access to processed foods and medical care.
 
My two cents

Naturopathic dogma is tremendous as a preventative in keeping disease at bay.

The problem most disease stricken individuals have is that they wait to long before adopting healthier lifestyle alternatives before they get sick.

Every human being is an individual unto himself and as such will react differently to different approaches. Keeping this in mind it would be unwise to discard alternative methods.

My GP who I consider a friend at this point is now board certified in the U.S as a naturopathic physician. Him and I have E-mailed each other back and fourth several times on various different topics concerning the state of today's traditional or what the naturopaths call the allopathic system. It's extremely flawed and big pharma influenced. Profits and politics are strange bed fellows indeed.

I myself have made a commitment to eat nothing but organic going forward. From a health point of view after reviewing all of the evidence and reading between the lines it at least makes sense to give it a try.

I think to myself about what I was told was heathy and good for me 30 years ago and realize how wrong they were. I can't tell you how many soft drinks, T.V. dinners and fried foods I had growing up. Makes me think in 30 years from now we will probably be quite upset over the choices that we are told are harmless today.
 
Maurice Boscorelli said:
My two cents

Naturopathic dogma is tremendous as a preventative in keeping disease at bay.

The problem most disease stricken individuals have is that they wait to long before adopting healthier lifestyle alternatives before they get sick.

Every human being is an individual unto himself and as such will react differently to different approaches. Keeping this in mind it would be unwise to discard alternative methods.

My GP who I consider a friend at this point is now board certified in the U.S as a naturopathic physician. Him and I have E-mailed each other back and fourth several times on various different topics concerning the state of today's traditional or what the naturopaths call the allopathic system. It's extremely flawed and big pharma influenced. Profits and politics are strange bed fellows indeed.

I myself have made a commitment to eat nothing but organic going forward. From a health point of view after reviewing all of the evidence and reading between the lines it at least makes sense to give it a try.

I think to myself about what I was told was heathy and good for me 30 years ago and realize how wrong they were. I can't tell you how many soft drinks, T.V. dinners and fried foods I had growing up. Makes me think in 30 years from now we will probably be quite upset over the choices that we are told are harmless today.

Remember when toothpaste used to give you cancer?.
 
Maurice Boscorelli said:
I myself have made a commitment to eat nothing but organic going forward. From a health point of view after reviewing all of the evidence and reading between the lines it at least makes sense to give it a try.

I think to myself about what I was told was healthy and good for me 30 years ago and realize how wrong they were. I can't tell you how many soft drinks, T.V. dinners and fried foods I had growing up. Makes me think in 30 years from now we will probably be quite upset over the choices that we are told are harmless today.

Good for you Maurice! ...and who knows, you keep eating organics only, and maybe...just maybe, that prehensile tail of yours may just dry up and fall off one of these days. :wink2:
 
I tried homeopathy once, going in as a skeptic, and to my surprise something did in fact happen when I was taking the remedy...

As I said I was a skeptic, so within my skepticism I decided to do some light self testing wherein I would not take the remedy for a few days and journal the effects, take the remedy for a day or two in a row and journal the effects; following which I had my roommate at the time assist me in a bit of a blind test wherein he had placed two similar water bottles in the fridge one marked "A" (containing my remedy) and another marked "B" (containing just water) from which I would dose myself regularly while documenting the effects for a 4 week rotation (1 week on "A" and the next on "B"), only to find that even when I did not know I was taking the remedy there was a definite difference while I was taking it as opposed to when I wasn't.

Granted this wasn't a controlled test; but I did the best I could to account for a psychosomatic placebo effect being the case, and from what I had personally experienced (as skeptic) all I can say is that it did work for me, and I still find myself using that remedy occasionally today because it is the only thing that has ever worked for my particular condition.

Do I believe in homeopathy?
I don't think I've had enough experience with it to be a firm believer; but based on what I've personally experienced I'd certainly not discount its effectiveness entirely. It worked for me and it's the only thing that worked for me- that I know for sure.

How do I feel about traditional medicine?
I'm thankful for the technologies and resources we have allotted to us today through the evolution of the modern day medical practice; however I do feel that its a patients responsibility to make well informed decisions in accepting any medications which a physician might feel the need to prescribe, and that alongside open communication regarding any Rx and the wondrous bounty of information provided by the internet, patients are much better equip to be an active part of their health care then they ever had been before and they should be taking advantage of being active within their medical care whenever possible.
 
Maurice Boscorelli said:
My two cents

Naturopathic dogma is tremendous as a preventative in keeping disease at bay.

The problem most disease stricken individuals have is that they wait to long before adopting healthier lifestyle alternatives before they get sick.

Every human being is an individual unto himself and as such will react differently to different approaches. Keeping this in mind it would be unwise to discard alternative methods.

My GP who I consider a friend at this point is now board certified in the U.S as a naturopathic physician. Him and I have E-mailed each other back and fourth several times on various different topics concerning the state of today's traditional or what the naturopaths call the allopathic system. It's extremely flawed and big pharma influenced. Profits and politics are strange bed fellows indeed.

I myself have made a commitment to eat nothing but organic going forward. From a health point of view after reviewing all of the evidence and reading between the lines it at least makes sense to give it a try.

I think to myself about what I was told was heathy and good for me 30 years ago and realize how wrong they were. I can't tell you how many soft drinks, T.V. dinners and fried foods I had growing up. Makes me think in 30 years from now we will probably be quite upset over the choices that we are told are harmless today.

Thank you.....your point about big pharma is incontrovertible, the drug companies run medicine now and imo they appear to want only to treat symptoms not cure diseases. My homeopath is an MD who studied an additional 7 yrs to gain his knowledge in homeopathic medicine and other treatments. Though, I'm sure there are flaws in some of the homeopathic treatments, no system is perfect, their aim is to heal naturally.
 
Maurice Boscorelli said:
Had to look that one up ya basterd,lol.....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehensile_tail

I kid you because I love you Bro! :LMAO:

(BTW - you were an adorable baby!)

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I must apologize:blush2::sorry2: to those who read and participated in this thread as I've confused Homeopathy and Naturopathic medicines. The experiences and good results I've had were with a Naturopathic doctor, I was corrected yesterday when I visited him and mentioned this discussion. He explained the differences.
 
cristycurves said:
I must apologize:blush2::sorry2: to those who read and participated in this thread as I've confused Homeopathy and Naturopathic medicines. The experiences and good results I've had were with a Naturopathic doctor, I was corrected yesterday when I visited him and mentioned this discussion. He explained the differences.


Not a problem.
 
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