How to have a successful arrangement

[Fuggedabouditt]

I'm just gonna leave this here. I want to hear what others have to say, then I'll chime in. Hmmmmmm

 

[DannyDevito]

What you mean?.

Like a prenuptial?.

 

[Creepy]

Do not get married.

 

[cristycurves]

I believe he means with an escort or massage person......imo it's pretty easy and common sensical:SayWhat?::wink:

-Firstly and most importantly contact your chosen person in their requested way and for goodness sake introduce yourself!! There is nothing worse than being contacted by a "hey", "what's up", "what's yer rates", "what yer offerin".....
-Then provide that person with some information about yourself. Most reliable, professional ladies and gents will have a screening process you'll have to go through, if you don't want to go through it, or disagree with it, move on, but don't whine about it. This type of process protects you as much as it protects the sp or mpa. How many of you have whined about being ripped off or other stuff, more than not, this happens with those who don't screen!
-Be clear about what you expect, without being explicit, yes this can be done. Remember we are post c36, some things are illegal, like selling and buying sex, somethings are not, like buying time. It's better to be overly cautious than to be caught
-Show up, be on time and be as you promised. We too are often lied to about what we're going to get.....so honesty works both ways
-Last but not least, enjoy. A great encounter involves two, a bad encounter involves two. If you had a great one, write a review, and please be a gentlemen when doing so. There isn't a need for the review to involve a "blow by blow" tell all. Gentlemen leave the finer details for the imagination. If you didn't have a great encounter, one lacking chemistry, move on and keep looking. Just because someone didn't "burst your bubble", doesn't mean they're not wonderful, so don't make them out to be "damaged goods", unless something dangerous occurred that warrants a warning. Remember what you write says a lot about you too

 

[Madman]

I believe he means with an escort or massage person......imo it's pretty easy and common sensical:SayWhat?::wink:

-Firstly and most importantly contact your chosen person in their requested way and for goodness sake introduce yourself!! There is nothing worse than being contacted by a "hey", "what's up", "what's yer rates", "what yer offerin".....
-Then provide that person with some information about yourself. Most reliable, professional ladies and gents will have a screening process you'll have to go through, if you don't want to go through it, or disagree with it, move on, but don't whine about it. This type of process protects you as much as it protects the sp or mpa. How many of you have whined about being ripped off or other stuff, more than not, this happens with those who don't screen!
-Be clear about what you expect, without being explicit, yes this can be done. Remember we are post c36, some things are illegal, like selling and buying sex, somethings are not, like buying time. It's better to be overly cautious than to be caught
-Show up, be on time and be as you promised. We too are often lied to about what we're going to get.....so honesty works both ways
-Last but not least, enjoy. A great encounter involves two, a bad encounter involves two. If you had a great one, write a review, and please be a gentlemen when doing so. There isn't a need for the review to involve a "blow by blow" tell all. Gentlemen leave the finer details for the imagination. If you didn't have a great encounter, one lacking chemistry, move on and keep looking. Just because someone didn't "burst your bubble", doesn't mean they're not wonderful, so don't make them out to be "damaged goods", unless something dangerous occurred that warrants a warning. Remember what you write says a lot about you too

I don't believe fugged is speaking about booking a session . I believe he's talking about more of a sugarbaby type of relationship.

If so, I believe an arrangement is a two way street. Arrangements are not strictly about the sex but more about having a companion to go out with, enjoy theater, dance , dinners ect....

For the lady it's about making a monthly salary and for the gent it's about companionship/sex......the most important thing is obviously chemistry for both involved in my opinion.

Also cover exclusivity, a) are you paying enough to be exclusive or will she be seeing others ....this is important to cover so there are no misunderstandings.

 

[User-E]

Make sure the terms of the arrangement are perfectly clear and agreed upon by both parties.

 

[Fuggedabouditt]

I believe he means with an escort or massage person......imo it's pretty easy and common sensical:SayWhat?::wink:.....

I don't believe fugged is speaking about booking a session . I believe he's talking about more of a sugarbaby type of relationship.

If so, I believe an arrangement is a two way street. Arrangements are not strictly about the sex but more about having a companion to go out with, enjoy theater, dance , dinners ect....

For the lady it's about making a monthly salary and for the gent it's about companionship/sex......the most important thing is obviously chemistry for both involved in my opinion.

Also cover exclusivity, a) are you paying enough to be exclusive or will she be seeing others ....this is important to cover so there are no misunderstandings.

MM is correct. I think this is where I got fugged up on my last go round. It was someone I was seeing exclusively but she was not on the payroll, it was adhoc sessions but this included "dates" like dinner and outings at times. When it all came to an end, it was me who called it off for a few reasons, but she called it an arrangement...I can see why but again, if you want to compare apples to oranges, it was still a session and because it was around the dinner time when we would meet, I offered to take her out for a meal and she graciously offered to include this in our session; wow, lucky me LOL.

I did dabble in true SB/SD relationships but, they rarely lasted more than the first month. Something about getting money in hand and then doing what she wanted to and not honoring the "arrangement". On other attempts, it was a weekly allowance AFTER a visit to be on the cautious side; that rarely worked as well. This is why I kept it at private sessions.

So it seems that I didn't have much luck choosing my SB. It seems that my choices seem to get the $$$ signs in their eyes and start to do their own thing after a short while because they have money in hand and "BYE BYE". You'd think I'd become a little bitter at this repeated nonsense, but I see SP's for what they are and for some, it's money hungry bitches, for some, it's business, for some, it's genuine but this is only true when the money stops flowing and they're still with you.

 

[ERecTile]

Where's Madman and what have you done with him?? That post was way too sensical to be him!

Fuggie you bring up some good points. I've always wondered about the SB/SD thing and h9w you would enforce the arrangement. Do you pay half up front and the other half at the end of the month? I think it would be better to pay on a per date basis. Kinda like an hourly wage. That way you ensure the arrangement is working and it can end any time and both sides will have gotten something out of it.

 

[Fuggedabouditt]

Where's Madman and what have you done with him?? That post was way too sensical to be him!

Fuggie you bring up some good points. I've always wondered about the SB/SD thing and h9w you would enforce the arrangement. Do you pay half up front and the other half at the end of the month? I think it would be better to pay on a per date basis. Kinda like an hourly wage. That way you ensure the arrangement is working and it can end any time and both sides will have gotten something out of it.

My first SB/SD arrangement was with a VERY popular SP (now long retired). She lived up to all expectations and we would hold sessions at her place (which I paid for). There were a few outside dates but our schedules and because I had many family responsibilities at the time, only left time for a couple of hours per week, sometimes twice in a week. She went Indy at my advise and started to make a lot more cash and nearing her first retirement, we still saw each other on an ADHOC basis. She set the bar high. She was/is probably the most beautiful and kind hearted woman I've ever had the pleasure of being with. With our openess and ability to discuss things, she wanted out of the biz after another go round as an Indy, and concentrate on her civvie life and the man who would eventually marry her. Sniff, I miss her but glad she moved on and reached her goals. The point is, I paid everything up front.

For other candidates, the negotiations are normally heavily weighed on the SP side. I can't fathom the preponderance of the advantages there. It doesn't seem fair. To your point, I always countered with an session by session pay as you go which is basically a private session and no "arrangement". I've all but given up on helping out over and above except for one young lady I mentioned earlier. There are gifts for the special ladies I see regularly, and the mileage is high because of it, even the agency ones I see through agency time.

The future for arrangements and myself are none existent. My first gal's arrangement and our relationship is a challenge for anyone to meet and or surpass. I don't think many, if any, would be capable of it.

AND WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH "FUGGIE"?!

 

[IFUSEEKAMY]

I dunno...I really liked Danny's and Creepy's responses hehehe.

SD/SB arrangements sound fascinating. How do both sides agree on something that sounds fair to both? Seems like one person involved would almost always feel obligated while another would feel taken advantage of. And how about exclusivity? I don't think I would get enough sex from one person to make me want to go this route versus what I currently do that satiates my appetite so perfectly.

 

[User-E]

AND WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH "FUGGIE"?!

You know you've truly been accepted into the family when you they give you a pet name. :Still-friends:

 

[Fuggedabouditt]

I dunno...I really liked Danny's and Creepy's responses hehehe.

SD/SB arrangements sound fascinating. How do both sides agree on something that sounds fair to both? Seems like one person involved would almost always feel obligated while another would feel taken advantage of. And how about exclusivity? I don't think I would get enough sex from one person to make me want to go this route versus what I currently do that satiates my appetite so perfectly.

The obligation part is where most arrangements fall short. I do have expectations if an arrangement is agreed upon and that's where I don't feel good about stating and expecting the lady to live up to that; I'll be honest, this expectation doesn't usually come out until I see that she doesn't WANT to feel obligated. Well, when you agree to something, you ARE obligated. This is where I usually take the arrangement off the table and only do a session by session.

Exclusivity - That's up to the individuals and their agreement. I don't want exclusivity as part of the agreement from the lady. I understand that she might still want to work and or have variety. The same goes for me. Then why bother you say? Exactly. Familiarity? Mileage? Who knows.

 

[ERecTile]

You know you've truly been accepted into the family when you they give you a pet name. :Still-friends:

That, and also Fuggedabouditt is too long and complex to type on my phone.

 

[oldguyzer]

Having a relationship with an SP/MPA is just like any other relationship with a few simple modifications: do not talk about their job unless they bring it up; do not get jealous...it's a job; don't expect what happens in a session to happen outside a session; be understanding...that's a stressful job; be supportive; do not talk about their job unless they bring it up (repeated because it's the most important rule!).

I've been in several extremely satisfying relationships with SPs/MPAs, and still am. I find there's a lot less bullshit and deception. And they are genuinely lovely ladies!

 

[Jasper]

I think Fuggy's lack of success with arrangements is because of how they begin. He works to make the transaction more in his favour over time.
He chooses his candidates from those who get paid for their time and tries to whittle the time down to not include everything except the actual sex. And then he tries to get this part changed to a fuckbuddy arrangement.
It's better to start with someone who doesn't expect payment for time spent.

 

[ERecTile]

Having a relationship with an SP/MPA is just like any other relationship with a few simple modifications: do not talk about their job unless they bring it up; do not get jealous...it's a job; don't expect what happens in a session to happen outside a session; be understanding...that's a stressful job; be supportive; do not talk about their job unless they bring it up (repeated because it's the most important rule!).

I've been in several extremely satisfying relationships with SPs/MPAs, and still am. I find there's a lot less bullshit and deception. And they are genuinely lovely ladies!

I've never been in a relationship with either SP or MPA but I've met a few MPAs outside the spa. Honestly, between to two, I think I'd rather have a relationship/arrangement with a SP. Generally speaking of course, I've found SPs to be more genuine and honest while MPAs take the tease and deception too far. I think it's just part of the nature of the job.

My first outside experience is still my best. We were both in committed relationships so our dates felt as if we were good friends with a touch of naughty. We never did anything outside the spa but we fucked like rabbits in the spa. It ended rather abruptly when we both nearly got caught by our SOs...the irony of course is that nothing ever happened outside the spa.

 

[oldguyzer]

I've never been in a relationship with either SP or MPA but I've met a few MPAs outside the spa. Honestly, between to two, I think I'd rather have a relationship/arrangement with a SP. Generally speaking of course, I've found SPs to be more genuine and honest while MPAs take the tease and deception too far. I think it's just part of the nature of the job.

Generally, I can't disagree, but there are exceptions...and they are the ones I spend time with outside.

 

[What A Wookie]

Never had any sort of arrangement. I've been out socially a few times this year with a regular when she's in town. Enjoyed each other company but nothing physical. I think she'd be amicable to making our own arrangements so maybe something to discuss in the new year.

I couldn't imagine an ongoing retainer though.

 

[peace]

That, and also Fuggedabouditt is too long and complex to type on my phone.

can always call him daddy....much shorter than Fuggeabouditt

 

[Prick]

What's a relationship?.