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Immigration backlog keeping millionaires out of Canada

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Should the immigration officials to put a priority on the millionaires?. It would help our economy, no?.



TORONTO - More than 22,500 foreign millionaires are waiting abroad to resettle in Canada, bringing with them more than $9 billion to help cash-strapped Ottawa, immigration officials say.

There are about 16,400 millionaires alone in Hong Kong, Jim Versteegh, a federal immigration program manager at the Canadian consulate in Hong Kong, said about classified numbers released this week.

Versteegh said there are about 22,491 millionaire investors worldwide who’ve applied and are waiting to come to Canada.
They’ll bring about 77,800 family members with them.

“We still need a game plan for dealing with our inventory,” he said in a July 2010 memo obtained under an Access to Information request by lawyer Richard Kurland. “The total number of investor cases we now have on hand is 16,400.” He said it’ll take about 12 years for visa officers to process the backlog of cases.

Only about 2,000 cases involving the federal investor program are processed yearly. Kurland said investors are required to dish out $400,000 in cash each to Ottawa to obtain visas for their families, providing they pass medical and background checks.

He estimated the millionaires will hand over about $9 billion in cash to the federal government for use for the provinces.
“We are losing some of these people to other countries,” Kurland said. “Many of these people don’t want to wait for years and are going elsewhere.”

He said there’s stiff competition from the United States, Australia and some European countries for the well-heeled crowd.

“These people are paying hard cash for Canadian visas,” Kurland said. “That money will go a long way to create jobs and reduce our deficit.”

Federal immigration officials have said officers can only process 2,000 cases yearly because it takes a long time to determine the source of the funds or whether the money is linked to organized crime.
 
No, it wouldn't help our economy and it wouldn't help our society.

WHY you ask? Look at the money they are bringing with them!!!

Umm no, I doubt that ANY hong kong millionaire is bringing his money WITH him. I bet dollars to donuts they'll leave it in the banks where it is now, in the investments that are making them money now etc.

It is also well documented and known that while they might buy a hot new car here, a nice house, nice clothes, that really doesn't help society in general because, that is ONE car, ONE house, IMPORTED clothes.

For example: they buy a ferrari. Society (aka the government) gets the taxes collected on the sale. The licencing, etc. How does that help you and me? It doesn't. It is just one more car on the already clogged roads.

Now if they bought 10 cars worth $45K that were built here, instead of ONE imported car worth $450K then yes, that would benefit our society. Since that would affect jobs for people who built the car, the raw materials used in its construction, parts suppliers who make the replacement parts, and profit the company centered here.....

Same as if they buy a house. Who does that affect? ONE already rich person and it's not as if that house wouldn't have been sold to someone already living here (yet another already rich person). Now if they BUILT 10 houses worth $250K each then yes, that would affect our society.

See, the thing people miss is that unless the rich do something "normal" like the examples shown, it really doesn't help us......

That's going to be the downfall of the elite: sooner or later the rest of society is going into the dumper because they don't contribute their fair share which will help regular folks.

Now if I was the immigration minister? I'd say "sure, we'll let you jump the line BUT (like the US) you'll have to invest at least $1M in a CANADIAN company, open a company that employs a minimum of 50 people and it MUST operate for at least 5 yrs". That way them coming here WILL benefit the country as opposed to a select few.
 
No, it wouldn't help our economy and it wouldn't help our society.

WHY you ask? Look at the money they are bringing with them!!!

Umm no, I doubt that ANY hong kong millionaire is bringing his money WITH him. I bet dollars to donuts they'll leave it in the banks where it is now, in the investments that are making them money now etc.

It is also well documented and known that while they might buy a hot new car here, a nice house, nice clothes, that really doesn't help society in general because, that is ONE car, ONE house, IMPORTED clothes.

For example: they buy a ferrari. Society (aka the government) gets the taxes collected on the sale. The licencing, etc. How does that help you and me? It doesn't. It is just one more car on the already clogged roads.

Now if they bought 10 cars worth $45K that were built here, instead of ONE imported car worth $450K then yes, that would benefit our society. Since that would affect jobs for people who built the car, the raw materials used in its construction, parts suppliers who make the replacement parts, and profit the company centered here.....

Same as if they buy a house. Who does that affect? ONE already rich person and it's not as if that house wouldn't have been sold to someone already living here (yet another already rich person). Now if they BUILT 10 houses worth $250K each then yes, that would affect our society.

See, the thing people miss is that unless the rich do something "normal" like the examples shown, it really doesn't help us......

That's going to be the downfall of the elite: sooner or later the rest of society is going into the dumper because they don't contribute their fair share which will help regular folks.

Now if I was the immigration minister? I'd say "sure, we'll let you jump the line BUT (like the US) you'll have to invest at least $1M in a CANADIAN company, open a company that employs a minimum of 50 people and it MUST operate for at least 5 yrs". That way them coming here WILL benefit the country as opposed to a select few.

Good way of putting it but you forgot that their wives and kids will be buying: Toilet paper, shampoo, school supplies, shoes, pants, shirts, movie tickets...should I go on?.
 
Good way of putting it but you forgot that their wives and kids will be buying: Toilet paper, shampoo, school supplies, shoes, pants, shirts, movie tickets...should I go on?.

True, but by the same token: they may buy all those things but only at the typical rich and shameless stores ie: just like the cars/clothes/shoes none of it is made in Canada therefore doesn't really affect us much. Do you think some kid going to private school, driving a DB9 is going to buy pantene shampoo at shoppers drug mart?

But really, wouldn't a poor family be buying the same items anyways? so them being a millionaire is no different than them being a cab driver: they'll both buy tp, shampoo, soap etc and even still, in a lifetime, how much does that add up to? $10,000.00 in 50 yrs? Big whoop.....

Speaking of the kids, we'd end up like those bunch of assholes in Vancouver who were racing their hot cars in rush hour traffic. Do we really want that?

By the same token, I would guestimate that they are mostly in their mid to late 40's or 50's. Getting right to the time in their lives where their bodies will be wearing out and require medical attention. Therefore I submit that they'll take more from society than give.....
 
Oh, and that 9 billion going to Ottawa? Do you think that will be used to better our hospital wait times or to redocorate the prime minister's office and buy a couple more private jets? Or pay for all those cushy pensions all the politicos voted them?

Oh I know, they'll be used to pay off all those government employees whose job title was changed from GST collector to HST collector......
 
Oh, and that 9 billion going to Ottawa? Do you think that will be used to better our hospital wait times or to redocorate the prime minister's office and buy a couple more private jets? Or pay for all those cushy pensions all the politicos voted them?

Oh I know, they'll be used to pay off all those government employees whose job title was changed from GST collector to HST collector......

Tboy, they might bring some hot looking wives :beurk:
 
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