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Is a person's life worth $500? Highway Traffic Act says yes

The laws do have to be changed. On another note, pedestrians should also pay attention. There has been many times that if I wasn't sharp i would have hit a few people.

Those that walk and text with their head down while crossing the streets should get heavy fines.

Just my 2 cents.
 
Well, I'd like to see the entire history of the cases before jumping on the hysteria bandwagon.

If someone is jaywalking, in the middle of the block, during heavy traffic, gets hit and killed, is the driver automatically at fault? Kind of sort of since pedestrians "think" they always have the right of way, but in many cases, the fault of the accident lies with the pedestrian for putting themselves in danger and sometimes, the police lay a charge simply because "they should".

For eg: you're doing the speed limit on Steeles in Brampton. SPeed limit is 60 kph. Pedestrian steps off the curb trying to get to the bus across the street. You hit them and kill them. You might be charged with failing to yield but the "fault" of the accident lies solely and completely with the pedestrian for not taking due care and caution.

There was someone killed last year in Toronto by a dump truck turning right. They stepped off the curb while, as BB says, texting with their head down. I believe the driver was charged with failure to yield but not vehicular manslaughter because the majority of the fault lay with the pedestrian.

Now if someone was racing at 100 kph, lost control and ran up on the curb killing someone? Throw the book at them. But I doubt any of these examples were so cut and dried.

I think people take the common law "pedestrians have the right of way" too literally. I spoke to a cop about crosswalks and he said, it's in the HTA, you only have to stop at a crosswalk if it is safe to do so. In other words, you don't have to ram your car into a pole to avoid a pedestrian, or another vehicle. I brought this up because many push the button and step off the curb without waiting for traffic to notice them and come to a stop. Someone did this to me and they were behind the pole. They pushed the button when I was about 5 feet from the crosswalk and just stepped out....I locked up the brakes, swerved to the left and lay on the horn....They were mere inches away from getting squashed.....

I don't believe that anytime a pedestrian is killed by a vehicle, it is automatically the driver's fault and don't believe they should automatically be charged.

Once again, sensationistic reporting at its best. The HTA doesn't state that a person's life is worth $500 at all. But then again, if said pedestrians thought their life was worth more, they might be a little more careful.........
 
I say look at every case as an individual case. If the pedestrian is at fault, sorry to say but their life ticket wise should be worth 0.
 
For the life of me I never understood why drivers when turning right on a stop sign. Keep looking left to see if all cars have passed by and forget to take a quick right side look to see if any stupid person is trying to cross. Bang that is what happens. It takes two to tango.

I am a very careful driver and have avoided many accidents because I am a smarter driver than the other one that crosses lanes without looking etc...

There is a joke between us friends. Whenever we see an accident we say. Hey there goes two stupid people.
 
I'm with you bubba, I look left, right left and right as I make the turn, just in case some brain dead pedestrian doesn't see my 3000 lbs truck moving in front of them (and believe me, I've had to jamb on the brakes more than a few times because they figure "I have the right of way so he'll stop...in time" The thing they forget to add to that thought is: I hope.......

One of the things I had to get used to in my truck is the large front pillars. Mine are so large that a pedestrian could be walking across a cross walk and I can't see them. A couple of times when I first bought it I was making a left and a pedestrian was walking at the same rate as I was turning so they remained hidden until they were just about directly in front of me. So now when I look, I look around the pillars while moving......

I guess I'm a smart pedestrian and this comes from riding a motorcycle long before I had a car licence. You learn soon enough that you act like you're invisible to everyone else. That way you avoid trouble and if you think this way as a pedestrian, you'll stay out of trouble.

As for your "two stupid people" comment, it isn't always two. The last accident I was in I was stopped at a red light, and someone plowed into me. They didn't even apply the brakes. The thing was, the light had been red for a good minute or two, and was red for another minute or two after they hit me so it wasn't like I was late leaving on the green or quick to stop on the red. They were just distracted and weren't watching where they were going.....I mean, I was driving a pickup so it wasn't like I was easy to miss either lol.....
 
Then there are the usual suspects that give you a dirty look when you slam your brakes to avoid hitting them when jay walk. Figure that one out.
 
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