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PUTIN: Soldiers in Crimea are NOT Russian Troops
Russian leader Vladamir Putin said on Tuesday in his first news conference since Ukraine ousted president Viktor Yanukovish fled Kiev, that the armed groups which seized power in Crimea were "local forces of self-defense," and not Russian soldiers.
PUTIN: Soldiers in Crimea are NOT Russian Troops
Russian leader Vladamir Putin said on Tuesday in his first news conference since Ukraine ousted president Viktor Yanukovish fled Kiev, that the armed groups which seized power in Crimea were "local forces of self-defense," and not Russian soldiers.
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Russia and Ukraine in cyber 'stand-off'
As diplomatic efforts are stepped up to ease tensions in Ukraine, security experts have warned that Kiev and Moscow are locked in a cyber stand-off. Security forces in Ukraine have accused the Russian army of disrupting mobile communications.
Smaller-scale attacks have seen news websites and social media defaced with propaganda messages. Cyber-attacks were utilised heavily during Russia's 2008 conflict with Georgia.
In that case, distributed denial of service attacks - known as DDoS - were used to overwhelm websites and servers in Georgia in the weeks leading up to the military action.
The Georgian government said Russia was behind the DDoS attacks, but the Kremlin denied this - stating that it was possible for anyone, inside or outside Russia, to launch such an attack.
On Tuesday, Ukrainian authorities confirmed that communication networks had been targeted, the first significant disruption of technology."I confirm that an... attack is under way on mobile phones of members of the Ukrainian parliament for the second day in a row," Ukrainian security chief Valentyn Nalivaichenko told journalists. At the entrance to [telecoms firm] Ukrtelecom in Crimea, illegally and in violation of all commercial contracts, was installed equipment that blocks my phone as well as the phones of other deputies, regardless of their political affiliation."
Security experts have speculated that Russia may be exercising restraint with its cyber-capabilities. Marty Martin, a former senior operations officer with the US Central Intelligence Agency, said more extreme cyber-attacks may only take place if violence escalated. "A lot of times you don't want to shut things down," he told Reuters. "If you do that, then you don't get your flow of intelligence. You are probably better off monitoring it."
What we are unlikely to see, experts say, is cyber-attacks of the same scale as in 2007, when Estonia suffered a 10-day attack on its internet services, causing major disruptions to its financial system. The attacks coincided with a disagreement between Estonia and Russia over the relocation of a Soviet war memorial.
While military action is visible and open to scrutiny from the international community, cyber-activity is considerably harder to track and attribute to a source. Much of Ukraine and Russia's cyber-attack capability lies with criminal gangs, as well as so-called patriotic hackers willing to work for each country's respective cause. "If the Russians are able to get their patriotic hackers to effectively participate in a war for them, it could be very effective," said Paul Rosenzweig, founder of Red Branch Consulting, and formerly of US homeland security.
One Ukrainian hacktivist group - Cyber-Berkut - posted a list of 40 websites that it had vandalised since the dispute began. It included the homepage of state-funded broadcaster Russia Today, which for a short time was altered so that the word "Russians" was replaced with "Nazis".
But Mr Rosenzweig was keen to stress that any perceived damage from these types of cyber-attacks is of little significance if on-the-ground military action is taken. "We should not overemphasise the importance of cyber," he said.
"Tanks beat cyber-bullets."
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26447200
Can't remember where these were posted originally, but here's a couple links leading to real time cyberwarfare monitoring sites.
Digital Attack Map (you have to click on the Map link at top of page to refresh each day)
As diplomatic efforts are stepped up to ease tensions in Ukraine, security experts have warned that Kiev and Moscow are locked in a cyber stand-off. Security forces in Ukraine have accused the Russian army of disrupting mobile communications.
Smaller-scale attacks have seen news websites and social media defaced with propaganda messages. Cyber-attacks were utilised heavily during Russia's 2008 conflict with Georgia.
In that case, distributed denial of service attacks - known as DDoS - were used to overwhelm websites and servers in Georgia in the weeks leading up to the military action.
The Georgian government said Russia was behind the DDoS attacks, but the Kremlin denied this - stating that it was possible for anyone, inside or outside Russia, to launch such an attack.
On Tuesday, Ukrainian authorities confirmed that communication networks had been targeted, the first significant disruption of technology."I confirm that an... attack is under way on mobile phones of members of the Ukrainian parliament for the second day in a row," Ukrainian security chief Valentyn Nalivaichenko told journalists. At the entrance to [telecoms firm] Ukrtelecom in Crimea, illegally and in violation of all commercial contracts, was installed equipment that blocks my phone as well as the phones of other deputies, regardless of their political affiliation."
Security experts have speculated that Russia may be exercising restraint with its cyber-capabilities. Marty Martin, a former senior operations officer with the US Central Intelligence Agency, said more extreme cyber-attacks may only take place if violence escalated. "A lot of times you don't want to shut things down," he told Reuters. "If you do that, then you don't get your flow of intelligence. You are probably better off monitoring it."
What we are unlikely to see, experts say, is cyber-attacks of the same scale as in 2007, when Estonia suffered a 10-day attack on its internet services, causing major disruptions to its financial system. The attacks coincided with a disagreement between Estonia and Russia over the relocation of a Soviet war memorial.
While military action is visible and open to scrutiny from the international community, cyber-activity is considerably harder to track and attribute to a source. Much of Ukraine and Russia's cyber-attack capability lies with criminal gangs, as well as so-called patriotic hackers willing to work for each country's respective cause. "If the Russians are able to get their patriotic hackers to effectively participate in a war for them, it could be very effective," said Paul Rosenzweig, founder of Red Branch Consulting, and formerly of US homeland security.
One Ukrainian hacktivist group - Cyber-Berkut - posted a list of 40 websites that it had vandalised since the dispute began. It included the homepage of state-funded broadcaster Russia Today, which for a short time was altered so that the word "Russians" was replaced with "Nazis".
But Mr Rosenzweig was keen to stress that any perceived damage from these types of cyber-attacks is of little significance if on-the-ground military action is taken. "We should not overemphasise the importance of cyber," he said.
"Tanks beat cyber-bullets."
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26447200
Can't remember where these were posted originally, but here's a couple links leading to real time cyberwarfare monitoring sites.
Digital Attack Map (you have to click on the Map link at top of page to refresh each day)
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]LMAO. The Americans have been nutered by [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Russia[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] and vice versa. America threatens sanctions. but oh hang on RETHINK !. [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Sanctions on [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Russia[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] will collapse the Markets. Oh poor bankers will loose billions lol, so no that wont happen. First red lines with [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Iran[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] and Syria now Sanctions with Russia? Russia replies with hey we will just drop the dollar lmao.
Neither one will attack or it goes nuclear. The only way this goes global is if they want it to ! If the globalists want to crash the dollar then we will see sanctions. If they want war we will see Nato go in to Ukraine. If its a back door deal we will see America and the eu make a deal allowing Russia to have Ukraine and the EU have one side of Ukraine allowing the Russians a buffer Zone [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]between them and [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Europe[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif].
The only problem is the profitable areas of Ukraine are what Russia wants and so do the bankers ? TIME WILL TELL ALL... And no the Russians are not in some crazy conspiracy with the [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Americans[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] and bankers. Having all the troops there risks one bullet igniting ww3 the globalists would not risk it. However [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Russia[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
would risk it to save their country from the globalists.....
Neither one will attack or it goes nuclear. The only way this goes global is if they want it to ! If the globalists want to crash the dollar then we will see sanctions. If they want war we will see Nato go in to Ukraine. If its a back door deal we will see America and the eu make a deal allowing Russia to have Ukraine and the EU have one side of Ukraine allowing the Russians a buffer Zone [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]between them and [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Europe[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif].
The only problem is the profitable areas of Ukraine are what Russia wants and so do the bankers ? TIME WILL TELL ALL... And no the Russians are not in some crazy conspiracy with the [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Americans[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] and bankers. Having all the troops there risks one bullet igniting ww3 the globalists would not risk it. However [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Russia[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
would risk it to save their country from the globalists.....
Russia opens talks as UN envoy is chased from Crimea
Russia and the United States held their first direct talks since the start of the Ukraine crisis on Wednesday night, raising hopes for a diplomatic breakthrough in the worst breach in relations between East and West since the end of the Cold War.
Though progress was limited, Sergei Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, met his counterparts from the US, France, Germany and Britain in Paris and said further discussions would take place “in days to come”, which was echoed by John Kerry, the US Secretary of State.
“We are all concerned at what it is happening there,” Mr Lavrov said as he left the French foreign ministry. Mr Kerry said the talks merely “initiated a process”.
Tensions remained high in Crimea, where gunmen seized part of a Ukrainian missile facility in Cape Fiolent near Sevastopol, according to Ukrainian officials.
A senior United Nations envoy was forced to cut short his mission and decided to leave the country after being “threatened” by a gang of armed men shouting “Crimea is Russian! Putin!
Putin!” Robert Serry was accosted by gunmen outside the naval headquarters in Simferopol. He was blocked from returning to his car and took refuge in a café that was surrounded by a mob. He was allowed to his hotel on condition that he left Crimea. He soon left for the airport.
The volatile situation in eastern Ukraine showed little sign of easing as a dozen people were hurt when pro-Russian protesters took back the regional government building in Donetsk. Earlier in the day pro-Western Ukrainians had reinstalled the national flag on the roof.
The West continued its strategy of combining support for the new government in Kiev with pressure on Russia, whose troops moved into Crimea two weeks ago.
Nato suspended most of its meetings with Russia and announced a review of all of its cooperation with Moscow, while a team of 35 observers from the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), including British and US military advisers, was sent to Kiev.
https://www.trunews.com/russia-opens-talks-un-envoy-chased-crimea/
Russia and the United States held their first direct talks since the start of the Ukraine crisis on Wednesday night, raising hopes for a diplomatic breakthrough in the worst breach in relations between East and West since the end of the Cold War.
Though progress was limited, Sergei Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, met his counterparts from the US, France, Germany and Britain in Paris and said further discussions would take place “in days to come”, which was echoed by John Kerry, the US Secretary of State.
“We are all concerned at what it is happening there,” Mr Lavrov said as he left the French foreign ministry. Mr Kerry said the talks merely “initiated a process”.
Tensions remained high in Crimea, where gunmen seized part of a Ukrainian missile facility in Cape Fiolent near Sevastopol, according to Ukrainian officials.
A senior United Nations envoy was forced to cut short his mission and decided to leave the country after being “threatened” by a gang of armed men shouting “Crimea is Russian! Putin!
Putin!” Robert Serry was accosted by gunmen outside the naval headquarters in Simferopol. He was blocked from returning to his car and took refuge in a café that was surrounded by a mob. He was allowed to his hotel on condition that he left Crimea. He soon left for the airport.
The volatile situation in eastern Ukraine showed little sign of easing as a dozen people were hurt when pro-Russian protesters took back the regional government building in Donetsk. Earlier in the day pro-Western Ukrainians had reinstalled the national flag on the roof.
The West continued its strategy of combining support for the new government in Kiev with pressure on Russia, whose troops moved into Crimea two weeks ago.
Nato suspended most of its meetings with Russia and announced a review of all of its cooperation with Moscow, while a team of 35 observers from the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), including British and US military advisers, was sent to Kiev.
https://www.trunews.com/russia-opens-talks-un-envoy-chased-crimea/
MPs in Crimea have asked Moscow to allow the southern Ukrainian region to become part of the Russian Federation.
The parliament said if its request was granted, Crimean citizens could give their view in a referendum on 16 March.
Ukraine's interim Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said the move had no legal grounds.
Crimea, a region whose population is mostly ethnic Russian, has been at the centre of tensions following the fall of Ukraine's pro-Moscow president.
Pro-Russian and Russian forces have been in de facto control of the peninsula for several days.
he announcement from Crimea's parliament comes as EU leaders meet in Brussels to discuss how to respond to Russia's troop deployment on Ukrainian soil.
In other developments:
The Crimean parliament resolved "to enter into the Russian Federation with the rights of a subject of the Russian Federation".
It said it had asked Russian President Vladimir Putin "to start the procedure".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26465962
The parliament said if its request was granted, Crimean citizens could give their view in a referendum on 16 March.
Ukraine's interim Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said the move had no legal grounds.
Crimea, a region whose population is mostly ethnic Russian, has been at the centre of tensions following the fall of Ukraine's pro-Moscow president.
Pro-Russian and Russian forces have been in de facto control of the peninsula for several days.
he announcement from Crimea's parliament comes as EU leaders meet in Brussels to discuss how to respond to Russia's troop deployment on Ukrainian soil.
In other developments:
- Armed men stop an OSCE team of unarmed military observers from entering Crimea
- Washington says it is issuing visa restrictions on a number of Ukrainian and Russian officials and individuals "to deny visas to those responsible for, or complicit in, threatening the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine"
- US-based Russia Today presenter Liz Wahl resigns on air in protest at Moscow's involvement in Ukraine, two days after another RT presenter criticised Russia on her programme
- The Ukrainian flag is again flying over the regional government in the eastern city of Donetsk after the removal of pro-Russia demonstrators and detention of their leader Pavel Gubarev - who was being interviewed by the BBC at the time
- Armed men in Crimea seize TV transmitters, disconnecting Ukraine's 5 Kanal TV and One Plus One TV, and launch Russian Rossiya 24 TV broadcasts
The Crimean parliament resolved "to enter into the Russian Federation with the rights of a subject of the Russian Federation".
It said it had asked Russian President Vladimir Putin "to start the procedure".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26465962
[h=1]US imposes visa restrictions on Russians, Crimeans who ‘threaten Ukraine security’[/h]
https://rt.com/news/us-sanctions-russians-ukraine-206/
https://rt.com/news/us-sanctions-russians-ukraine-206/
[h=1]India Backs Russia’s ‘Legitimate Interests’ in Ukraine[/h]India broke with the international community in acknowledging that Russia has legitimate interests in Ukraine.
https://thediplomat.com/2014/03/india-backs-russias-legitimate-interests-in-ukraine/
https://thediplomat.com/2014/03/india-backs-russias-legitimate-interests-in-ukraine/
Putin knows the game being played. Man is a master tactician. He knows if he gives in he will have NATO at his border plus the missile shield. He also knows how far he can push before experiencing real blowback.
He has what he wants for now which is a foothold in Crimea. He knows that at some point he will have to retake Kiev. He's got time. all he has to do at this point is sit back and let others mess up. I get the idea that he is letting time pass so the circus will die down, and the western politicians and media will get back to doing what they do best ie screwing over their people.
He holds all the cards and as long as nobody does anything heroic, Putin has the luxury of time before his next move.
He has what he wants for now which is a foothold in Crimea. He knows that at some point he will have to retake Kiev. He's got time. all he has to do at this point is sit back and let others mess up. I get the idea that he is letting time pass so the circus will die down, and the western politicians and media will get back to doing what they do best ie screwing over their people.
He holds all the cards and as long as nobody does anything heroic, Putin has the luxury of time before his next move.
[h=1]Crimean parliament declares independence from Ukraine ahead of region's referendum... paving the way for the state to join Russia[/h]
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...it-regime-says-country-heading-civil-war.html
- 78 of the 100 Crimean MPs voted in favour of the declaration
- Fugitive president blasts Ukraine's new 'bandit regime'
- Viktor Yanukovych echoed Russia's rhetoric over Ukraine
- He said Ukrainian authorities are kowtowing to nationalists
- He alleged government could use military against Russians
- It came as Ukraine's acting president called for a national guard
- Ukraine also claimed it had arrested a Russian spy in Donetsk
- British PM warns annexation 'could prove painful for Putin'
- All flights in or out of Crimea's main airport are suspended
- NATO begins wargames in Poland as F-16 jets are tested
- U.S. jets due to join in as a gesture of Washington's support
- Polish PM says EU will impose sanctions on Russia on Monday
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...it-regime-says-country-heading-civil-war.html
LOL you have to love them Russians. :LMAO::LMAO:
* Ballot paper offers no choice for staying with status quo
* Both options lead to Crimea passing under Russian control
KIEV, March 11 (Reuters) - Sunday's vote in Ukraine's Crimea is being officially billed as a chance for the peninsula's peoples to decide fairly and freely their future - but in fact there is no room on the ballot paper for voting "Nyet" to control by Russia.
The Crimean voter will have the right to choose only one of two options in the March 16 referendum which the region's pro-Russian leadership, protected by Russian forces, announced earlier this month.
According to a format of the ballot paper, published on the parliament's website, the first question will ask: "Are you in favour of the reunification of Crimea with Russia as a part of the Russian Federation?"
The second asks: "Are you in favour of restoring the 1992 Constitution and the status of Crimea as a part of Ukraine?"
At first glance, the second option seems to offer the prospects of the peninsula remaining within Ukraine.
But the 1992 national blueprint - which was adopted soon after the collapse of the Soviet Union and then quickly abolished by the young post-Soviet Ukrainian state - is far from doing that.
This foresees giving Crimea all the qualities of an independent entity within Ukraine - but with the broad right to determine its own path and choose relations with whom it wants - including Russia.
With the pro-Russian assembly already saying it wants to return Crimea to Russia, this second option only offers a slightly longer route to shifting the peninsula back under Russian control, analysts say.
The option of asking people if they wish to stick with the status quo - in which Crimea enjoys autonomy but remains part of Ukraine - is not on offer.
Any mark in one of the boxes is regarded as a "Da" vote. Ballot papers will be regarded as spoiled if a voter fills in both boxes or indeed does not fill in either.
Those who stay away will also not influence the outcome, since the result will simply be based on the option preferred by a majority of those voting.
NO OPTION
"Even if it (the referendum) were legitimate, the two choices presented to Crimean voters offer them no option for leaving Russian control," wrote Keir Giles of the London-based Chatham House.
"The restoration of this (1992) constitution would be a step towards notional independence under Russian control ... Those citizens who were content with Crimea remaining part of Ukraine on the same basis as it has been for the last 20 years do not have a voice in this referendum. There is no third option available."
The Black Sea territory, which was under Russian rule for centuries and gifted to Ukraine by then-Kremlin leader Nikita Khrushchev in 1954 when Ukraine was part of the
Soviet Union, has an ethnic Russian majority population which appears to ensure the vote will be valid on Sunday.
The vote will take place against the backdrop of a pro-Russia billboard campaign showing two maps and visions of Crimea - one covered in a Russian flag, the other with a giant black swastika emblazoned across it.
In Sevastopol, a Soviet World War Two "hero city" where part of the Russian Black Sea fleet is based, another placard urges people to vote to stop fascism, suggesting the vote was a way of stopping Ukraine's far-right radicals coming to power.
Election officials sought to project the impression of Crimea's peoples - who include the indigenous Tatars as well as Ukrainians - being offered a real choice. The ballot paper on the web site was in Ukrainian and Tatar as well as Russian.
Valery Medvedev, the Russian-born chairman of Sevastopol's electoral commission, used a news conference to announce how he would vote.
"We're living through historic times. Sevastopol would love to fulfil its dream of joining Russia. I want to be part of Russia and I'm not embarrassed to say that," he told reporters.
Medvedev said the vote would be fair, however. People only had to answer one question in the referendum, he added, before correcting himself to say there were in fact two questions. "Either to be with Russia or to be with Ukraine," he said.
(Additional reporting by Andrew Osborn in Sevastopol; Writing By Richard Balmforth; Editing by Ron Popeski)
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/12/crimea-vote-join-russia-ballot-no-option_n_4947557.html
Crimea Vote Doesn't Offer 'No' Option For Joining Russia :LMAO::LMAO:
* Ballot paper offers no choice for staying with status quo
* Both options lead to Crimea passing under Russian control
KIEV, March 11 (Reuters) - Sunday's vote in Ukraine's Crimea is being officially billed as a chance for the peninsula's peoples to decide fairly and freely their future - but in fact there is no room on the ballot paper for voting "Nyet" to control by Russia.
The Crimean voter will have the right to choose only one of two options in the March 16 referendum which the region's pro-Russian leadership, protected by Russian forces, announced earlier this month.
According to a format of the ballot paper, published on the parliament's website, the first question will ask: "Are you in favour of the reunification of Crimea with Russia as a part of the Russian Federation?"
The second asks: "Are you in favour of restoring the 1992 Constitution and the status of Crimea as a part of Ukraine?"
At first glance, the second option seems to offer the prospects of the peninsula remaining within Ukraine.
But the 1992 national blueprint - which was adopted soon after the collapse of the Soviet Union and then quickly abolished by the young post-Soviet Ukrainian state - is far from doing that.
This foresees giving Crimea all the qualities of an independent entity within Ukraine - but with the broad right to determine its own path and choose relations with whom it wants - including Russia.
With the pro-Russian assembly already saying it wants to return Crimea to Russia, this second option only offers a slightly longer route to shifting the peninsula back under Russian control, analysts say.
The option of asking people if they wish to stick with the status quo - in which Crimea enjoys autonomy but remains part of Ukraine - is not on offer.
Any mark in one of the boxes is regarded as a "Da" vote. Ballot papers will be regarded as spoiled if a voter fills in both boxes or indeed does not fill in either.
Those who stay away will also not influence the outcome, since the result will simply be based on the option preferred by a majority of those voting.
NO OPTION
"Even if it (the referendum) were legitimate, the two choices presented to Crimean voters offer them no option for leaving Russian control," wrote Keir Giles of the London-based Chatham House.
"The restoration of this (1992) constitution would be a step towards notional independence under Russian control ... Those citizens who were content with Crimea remaining part of Ukraine on the same basis as it has been for the last 20 years do not have a voice in this referendum. There is no third option available."
The Black Sea territory, which was under Russian rule for centuries and gifted to Ukraine by then-Kremlin leader Nikita Khrushchev in 1954 when Ukraine was part of the
Soviet Union, has an ethnic Russian majority population which appears to ensure the vote will be valid on Sunday.
The vote will take place against the backdrop of a pro-Russia billboard campaign showing two maps and visions of Crimea - one covered in a Russian flag, the other with a giant black swastika emblazoned across it.
In Sevastopol, a Soviet World War Two "hero city" where part of the Russian Black Sea fleet is based, another placard urges people to vote to stop fascism, suggesting the vote was a way of stopping Ukraine's far-right radicals coming to power.
Election officials sought to project the impression of Crimea's peoples - who include the indigenous Tatars as well as Ukrainians - being offered a real choice. The ballot paper on the web site was in Ukrainian and Tatar as well as Russian.
Valery Medvedev, the Russian-born chairman of Sevastopol's electoral commission, used a news conference to announce how he would vote.
"We're living through historic times. Sevastopol would love to fulfil its dream of joining Russia. I want to be part of Russia and I'm not embarrassed to say that," he told reporters.
Medvedev said the vote would be fair, however. People only had to answer one question in the referendum, he added, before correcting himself to say there were in fact two questions. "Either to be with Russia or to be with Ukraine," he said.
(Additional reporting by Andrew Osborn in Sevastopol; Writing By Richard Balmforth; Editing by Ron Popeski)
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/12/crimea-vote-join-russia-ballot-no-option_n_4947557.html
Crimea Vote Doesn't Offer 'No' Option For Joining Russia :LMAO::LMAO:
[h=1]Russia Massing Military Forces Near Border With Ukraine[/h]
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/14/world/europe/ukraine.html?_r=0
Well well here we go.
GREETINGS PROFESSOR FALKEN
SHALL WE PLAY A GAME?
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/14/world/europe/ukraine.html?_r=0
Well well here we go.
GREETINGS PROFESSOR FALKEN
SHALL WE PLAY A GAME?
A
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He has the perfect excuse now.
MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia said on Friday it reserved the right to protect compatriots in eastern Ukraine after clashes in the city of Donetsk in which one person was killed.
Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-warns-eastern-ukraine-over-riots-2014-3#ixzz2vxaXk84q
MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia said on Friday it reserved the right to protect compatriots in eastern Ukraine after clashes in the city of Donetsk in which one person was killed.
Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-warns-eastern-ukraine-over-riots-2014-3#ixzz2vxaXk84q
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