Man puts a gun on your head. Leave because we are going to rape your daughter, he says.

[dreamblade]

Prim0, yes, it's a funny clip, and one I believed for a long time. Thing is, that is a movie. This is reality:

[video=youtube_share;xwCl9bfz-8Y]https://youtu.be/xwCl9bfz-8Y[/video]

 

[blackram]

Walk away and if you have a contact sell your soul to the Italian mafia. At least they don't rape women.

Oh, really? Since when?

Tbh, I agree w/Rai and Dreamblade. Making it easy for criminals to obtain firearms is why the USA is going to hell in a handbasket. These criminals suffer from mental health issues as well.

Mental health facilities and thorough background checks will make sure this doesn't happen nearly as often.

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The United States is paralyzed with fearful people. They are basically fulfilling their own internal MAD scenario, the game that the United States and Soviet governments played with each other during the Cold War.

 

[dreamblade]

Prim0, do you live in a warzone? Why in the world would you possibly need to use a freakin assault rifle in North America??? You keep saying that the US is not the wild west and then you pull out this argument?

Also, put down the NRA propaganda and actually read the 2nd amendment. It does not say what you think it says. Also, considering you're talking to people who live in a country that is, by your definition, disarmed, with a sliver of a fraction of gun deaths as yours, your argument is about as weak as your knowledge of guns.

 

[Madman]

Prim0, yes, it's a funny clip, and one I believed for a long time. Thing is, that is a movie. This is reality:

[video=youtube_share;xwCl9bfz-8Y]https://youtu.be/xwCl9bfz-8Y[/video]

Thank you DB, that was very informative.

I completely agree with Rai, DB, Olivia (the sexiest one) and Tranny! Sorry Primo, Obama is your friend!

 

[Transient]

Using the NRA rhetoric, hunting guns and assault weapon style firearms are the same thing. So no loss, you buy a hunting rifle and everyone's happy. Still, like all the crowing started in 2008, no one is taking away your right to own a gun. Plenty of guns for everyone.

Saying that there is a gun problem related to 372 mass shootings in the US in 2015 is not stretch.
~11,000 firearm related deaths in 2015 is more than a few.
That number is from the total 33,000 with the number of suicides (~22,000) removed.

The biggest fallacy is that gun ownership = personal safety. If you buy into that, you've drunk the kool-aid.

I wouldn't want the removal of the right to bear arms either. Good thing it's not happening and will not happen.

 

[blackram]

Prim0, do you live in a warzone? Why in the world would you possibly need to use a freakin assault rifle in North America??? You keep saying that the US is not the wild west and then you pull out this argument?

Also, put down the NRA propaganda and actually read the 2nd amendment. It does not say what you think it says. Also, considering you're talking to people who live in a country that is, by your definition, disarmed, with a sliver of a fraction of gun deaths as yours, your argument is about as weak as your knowledge of guns.

This is what the 2nd Amendment actually says: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." https://is.gd/JsWcmS

Which to me says that it's supposed to be there to defend your state, e.g. New York, Delaware, Georgia, etc. So it sounds like the function that's being fulfilled by the National Guards in each state. So if New Jersey wanted to go to war with Pennsylvania, it would have its own troops to do so, and so would Pennsylvania. I haven't seen any kind of a skirmish between states in a long, long time (at least 150 years). Nothing in it about overthrowing tyrants and whatever. So most of the time the National Guard is now just an adjunct of the United States military, these days.

 

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[Madman]

The thing I keep hearing from your posts is that there are too many deaths from guns in the US and we should have stricter gun controls.


People think there are too many deaths from alcohol.
People think there are too many deaths from tobacco.
People think there are too many deaths from eating unhealthy food.
People think too many women and girls have lost their freedom or lives due to prostitution.
People think there are too many deaths from abortion.
People think there are too many driving related deaths.

Maybe it is an American thing. We do not like to be told what we can do or not. We believe that we are capable of making our own choices for good or bad. We believe that people are innocent until proven guilty.

Everyone wants to put limit on the type of gun, how many rounds, caliber, rate of fire, where you can take it or not. Who get's to draw that line. Are you willing to abdicate that choice to the masses? Would you abdicate a choice you disagree with because a few people ruin things for everyone else?

I don't think I'll get through to any of you guys on this...but oh well.

Primo you keep bring up prostitution for obvious reasons and in the same paragraph you state Americans do not like to be told what to do. Then why are prostitutes and their clients hunted, harassed and their reputations tarnished whereas gun owners are supported and defended to the hilt??

Do you not believe a woman being told what she can't do with her body is more intrusive than having stricter gun laws?

 

[Madman]

I don't want to be restricted by a government or the majority proportion of my peers. I want to be free to make my own choices and deal with the consequences myself. I think that people have too often looked to the government in times of trouble....thereby giving it power over our lives in exchange for the "assistance" it gives us. Personally, I would rather struggle on my own than be told how to live my life to avoid all struggling.

The difference is innocent people at an event have no chance to run for help or defend themselves if a whacko with a semi automatic opens fire. Trafficking is conflated by the abolitionists to sway government, mass shootings are fact not a embellished non fact!

Why is it most mass shootings happen in the US or third world countries without gun laws?