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Maurice Boscorelli said:
Papa a question if I may.

If I was living in The state of NY and I wanted to own a gun.

What procedures would I have to follow to make that happen?

Any gun purchase requires a background check.
If it is a hand gun you must have a permit.
Those you apply for within the county you reside.
Each County will determine your eligibility for the permit.
This process will take several months.
Once you have a permit you can have multiple hand guns on that permit.

The days of waling into Sears and walking out with a gun are pretty much so over.

As to if a Foreign Citizen can obtain a Permit..I can not answer that.
Nor can I answer if as a Canadian you can buy a Shotgun at Walmart........I would like to think not.
 
The problem is evident and that is more Americans are killing their innocent people more than Isis or any terrorist could have ever dreamed of yet the solution always seems to be more guns. I'm not an American, don't plan on visiting any US cities anymore besides Las Vegas and that is only because my rat pack enjoys doing so yearly. I keep trying to change this but Vegas is a hard attraction to break for some.
 
papasmerf said:
Any gun purchase requires a background check.
If it is a hand gun you must have a permit.
Those you apply for within the county you reside.
Each County will determine your eligibility for the permit.
This process will take several months.
Once you have a permit you can have multiple hand guns on that permit.

The days of waling into Sears and walking out with a gun are pretty much so over.

As to if a Foreign Citizen can obtain a Permit..I can not answer that.
Nor can I answer if as a Canadian you can buy a Shotgun at Walmart........I would like to think not.

Firearms Law Canada

Licensing process

Becoming a licensed gun owner in Canada is a somewhat lengthy, but relatively straightforward procedure. Unfortunately, the process can often be confusing for those new to the shooting sports.
Step 1 – Safety course
The first step on the road to legal firearm ownership is the Canadian Firearms Safety Course (CFSC).
The Canadian Firearms Safety Course (CFSC) was developed in partnership with the provinces and territories, national organizations with an ongoing interest in firearms safety, and many firearms and hunter education course instructors from across Canada.
If you also want the “Restricted” designation (for handgun and restricted rifle ownership), you will also need to learn the material in the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course (CRFSC).
Topics covered in the safety course include:

  • the evolution of firearms, major parts, types and actions;
  • basic firearms safety practices;
  • ammunition;
  • operating firearm actions;
  • safe handling and carry procedures;
  • firing techniques and procedures;
  • care of firearms;
  • responsibilities of the firearms owner/user; and
  • safe storage, display, transportation and handling of firearms.
Each course takes roughly a day to complete. The test (discussed in Step 2) is usually administered at the end of the course by the instructor.
for a list of instructors and testing locations in Ontario. For a firearms instructor in B.C., .
Alternatively, anyone can simply challenge the exam without taking the safety courses first. Even you have experience with firearms, it is highly recommended that you study the safety videos and safety course print materials.
Step 2 – Safety exam
The Canadian Firearms Safety Course Exam covers the material taught in the safety course. It has two components: a written multiple choice section and a practical firearms-handling portion. There is no live-fire testing.
The written part of the exam has 50 multiple choice questions. Applicants must answer at least 80% correctly in order to successfully complete this portion of the exam.
The practical portion of the exam requires that applicants handle at least three types of firearms (e.g. pump action, lever action and bolt action) under various different conditions. Points are deducted when an applicant points a gun outside the designated safe area, exercises poor trigger finger discipline, or attempts to load the incorrect ammunition. Like the written portion of the exam, the minimum passing mark is 80%.
Step 3 – The application
For individuals applying for their first firearms licence, this form should be used.
Processing a firearms licence application involves a variety of background checks. In some cases, in-depth investigations are conducted. The RCMP requires a minimum of 45 days to process a firearms licence application.
Step 4 – Waiting period
There is a minimum 28-day waiting period for all applicants who do not presently hold a valid firearms licence. Once this waiting period is complete, the licence should be issued without undue delay.
Step 5 – Authorization to Transport (restricted firearms)
For individuals to possess and acquire restricted firearms (handguns, short-barreled semi-automatic rifles, etc.), an additional paperwork hurdle must be overcome. In order to transport a restricted firearm (to the range, for example), an Authorization to Transport (ATT) must be acquired. In Ontario, handgun owners apply through their shooting clubs for a long-term ATT, which allows the owner to transport the gun to and fro


Licensing process

Becoming a licensed gun owner in Canada is a somewhat lengthy, but relatively straightforward procedure. Unfortunately, the process can often be confusing for those new to the shooting sports.
Step 1 – Safety course
The first step on the road to legal firearm ownership is the Canadian Firearms Safety Course (CFSC).
The Canadian Firearms Safety Course (CFSC) was developed in partnership with the provinces and territories, national organizations with an ongoing interest in firearms safety, and many firearms and hunter education course instructors from across Canada.
If you also want the “Restricted” designation (for handgun and restricted rifle ownership), you will also need to learn the material in the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course (CRFSC).
Topics covered in the safety course include:

  • the evolution of firearms, major parts, types and actions;
  • basic firearms safety practices;
  • ammunition;
  • operating firearm actions;
  • safe handling and carry procedures;
  • firing techniques and procedures;
  • care of firearms;
  • responsibilities of the firearms owner/user; and
  • safe storage, display, transportation and handling of firearms.
Each course takes roughly a day to complete. The test (discussed in Step 2) is usually administered at the end of the course by the instructor.
for a list of instructors and testing locations in Ontario. For a firearms instructor in B.C., .
Alternatively, anyone can simply challenge the exam without taking the safety courses first. Even you have experience with firearms, it is highly recommended that you study the safety videos and safety course print materials.
Step 2 – Safety exam
The Canadian Firearms Safety Course Exam covers the material taught in the safety course. It has two components: a written multiple choice section and a practical firearms-handling portion. There is no live-fire testing.
The written part of the exam has 50 multiple choice questions. Applicants must answer at least 80% correctly in order to successfully complete this portion of the exam.
The practical portion of the exam requires that applicants handle at least three types of firearms (e.g. pump action, lever action and bolt action) under various different conditions. Points are deducted when an applicant points a gun outside the designated safe area, exercises poor trigger finger discipline, or attempts to load the incorrect ammunition. Like the written portion of the exam, the minimum passing mark is 80%.
Step 3 – The application
For individuals applying for their first firearms licence, this form should be used.
Processing a firearms licence application involves a variety of background checks. In some cases, in-depth investigations are conducted. The RCMP requires a minimum of 45 days to process a firearms licence application.
Step 4 – Waiting period
There is a minimum 28-day waiting period for all applicants who do not presently hold a valid firearms licence. Once this waiting period is complete, the licence should be issued without undue delay.
Step 5 – Authorization to Transport (restricted firearms)
For individuals to possess and acquire restricted firearms (handguns, short-barreled semi-automatic rifles, etc.), an additional paperwork hurdle must be overcome. In order to transport a restricted firearm (to the range, for example), an Authorization to Transport (ATT) must be acquired. In Ontario, handgun owners apply through their shooting clubs for a long-term ATT, which allows the owner to transport the gun to and from the range. These Authorizations usually expire within three years of issue.

Have to jump through a few more hoops up here maybe that should be the first step.
 
Maurice Boscorelli said:
Firearms Law Canada

Licensing process

Becoming a licensed gun owner in Canada is a somewhat lengthy, but relatively straightforward procedure. Unfortunately, the process can often be confusing for those new to the shooting sports.
Step 1 – Safety course
The first step on the road to legal firearm ownership is the Canadian Firearms Safety Course (CFSC).
The Canadian Firearms Safety Course (CFSC) was developed in partnership with the provinces and territories, national organizations with an ongoing interest in firearms safety, and many firearms and hunter education course instructors from across Canada.
If you also want the “Restricted” designation (for handgun and restricted rifle ownership), you will also need to learn the material in the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course (CRFSC).
Topics covered in the safety course include:

  • the evolution of firearms, major parts, types and actions;
  • basic firearms safety practices;
  • ammunition;
  • operating firearm actions;
  • safe handling and carry procedures;
  • firing techniques and procedures;
  • care of firearms;
  • responsibilities of the firearms owner/user; and
  • safe storage, display, transportation and handling of firearms.
Each course takes roughly a day to complete. The test (discussed in Step 2) is usually administered at the end of the course by the instructor.
for a list of instructors and testing locations in Ontario. For a firearms instructor in B.C., .
Alternatively, anyone can simply challenge the exam without taking the safety courses first. Even you have experience with firearms, it is highly recommended that you study the safety videos and safety course print materials.
Step 2 – Safety exam
The Canadian Firearms Safety Course Exam covers the material taught in the safety course. It has two components: a written multiple choice section and a practical firearms-handling portion. There is no live-fire testing.
The written part of the exam has 50 multiple choice questions. Applicants must answer at least 80% correctly in order to successfully complete this portion of the exam.
The practical portion of the exam requires that applicants handle at least three types of firearms (e.g. pump action, lever action and bolt action) under various different conditions. Points are deducted when an applicant points a gun outside the designated safe area, exercises poor trigger finger discipline, or attempts to load the incorrect ammunition. Like the written portion of the exam, the minimum passing mark is 80%.
Step 3 – The application
For individuals applying for their first firearms licence, this form should be used.
Processing a firearms licence application involves a variety of background checks. In some cases, in-depth investigations are conducted. The RCMP requires a minimum of 45 days to process a firearms licence application.
Step 4 – Waiting period
There is a minimum 28-day waiting period for all applicants who do not presently hold a valid firearms licence. Once this waiting period is complete, the licence should be issued without undue delay.
Step 5 – Authorization to Transport (restricted firearms)
For individuals to possess and acquire restricted firearms (handguns, short-barreled semi-automatic rifles, etc.), an additional paperwork hurdle must be overcome. In order to transport a restricted firearm (to the range, for example), an Authorization to Transport (ATT) must be acquired. In Ontario, handgun owners apply through their shooting clubs for a long-term ATT, which allows the owner to transport the gun to and fro


Licensing process

Becoming a licensed gun owner in Canada is a somewhat lengthy, but relatively straightforward procedure. Unfortunately, the process can often be confusing for those new to the shooting sports.
Step 1 – Safety course
The first step on the road to legal firearm ownership is the Canadian Firearms Safety Course (CFSC).
The Canadian Firearms Safety Course (CFSC) was developed in partnership with the provinces and territories, national organizations with an ongoing interest in firearms safety, and many firearms and hunter education course instructors from across Canada.
If you also want the “Restricted” designation (for handgun and restricted rifle ownership), you will also need to learn the material in the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course (CRFSC).
Topics covered in the safety course include:

  • the evolution of firearms, major parts, types and actions;
  • basic firearms safety practices;
  • ammunition;
  • operating firearm actions;
  • safe handling and carry procedures;
  • firing techniques and procedures;
  • care of firearms;
  • responsibilities of the firearms owner/user; and
  • safe storage, display, transportation and handling of firearms.
Each course takes roughly a day to complete. The test (discussed in Step 2) is usually administered at the end of the course by the instructor.
for a list of instructors and testing locations in Ontario. For a firearms instructor in B.C., .
Alternatively, anyone can simply challenge the exam without taking the safety courses first. Even you have experience with firearms, it is highly recommended that you study the safety videos and safety course print materials.
Step 2 – Safety exam
The Canadian Firearms Safety Course Exam covers the material taught in the safety course. It has two components: a written multiple choice section and a practical firearms-handling portion. There is no live-fire testing.
The written part of the exam has 50 multiple choice questions. Applicants must answer at least 80% correctly in order to successfully complete this portion of the exam.
The practical portion of the exam requires that applicants handle at least three types of firearms (e.g. pump action, lever action and bolt action) under various different conditions. Points are deducted when an applicant points a gun outside the designated safe area, exercises poor trigger finger discipline, or attempts to load the incorrect ammunition. Like the written portion of the exam, the minimum passing mark is 80%.
Step 3 – The application
For individuals applying for their first firearms licence, this form should be used.
Processing a firearms licence application involves a variety of background checks. In some cases, in-depth investigations are conducted. The RCMP requires a minimum of 45 days to process a firearms licence application.
Step 4 – Waiting period
There is a minimum 28-day waiting period for all applicants who do not presently hold a valid firearms licence. Once this waiting period is complete, the licence should be issued without undue delay.
Step 5 – Authorization to Transport (restricted firearms)
For individuals to possess and acquire restricted firearms (handguns, short-barreled semi-automatic rifles, etc.), an additional paperwork hurdle must be overcome. In order to transport a restricted firearm (to the range, for example), an Authorization to Transport (ATT) must be acquired. In Ontario, handgun owners apply through their shooting clubs for a long-term ATT, which allows the owner to transport the gun to and from the range. These Authorizations usually expire within three years of issue.

Have to jump through a few more hoops up here maybe that should be the first step.

Actually you must do the safety course and test here also.......I did not mention it because it is a requirement of the permit process.

One of the stranger parts of the permit process is you can not get a permit unless you have a gun to put on it.
And you can not buy the gun without a permit.
So you actually buy one contingent on your obtaining a permit.

As far as Concealed Carry
That is a separate permit process
 
Siodd said:
Ban doors not guns, so they say.

Twitter

In effect this is correct

You control entry and exits.
You can have 10,000 fire exits and still control them.
Essentially you funnel people into a check point on entry.
You also control exit points with no re-entry.

It is actually a simple retrofit.
 
I have a feeling metal detectors will soon be mandatory at each school everywhere. Just like going to an NBA game, you have to go through a security guard. So i can envision security guards checking out and patting each kindergarten to high school kids before entering the school. Then more teachers and special needs services will be cut.
 
peace said:
I have a feeling metal detectors will soon be mandatory at each school everywhere. Just like going to an NBA game, you have to go through a security guard. So i can envision security guards checking out and patting each kindergarten to high school kids before entering the school. Then more teachers and special needs services will be cut.

Actually the cost can be offset by insurance cost and eliminating waste in administrative positions.

The LIBERAL MANTRA is we will have to cut the arts, sports, special ed, busing, and anything else that sounds awful.
Never do the mention they could cut staff in admin....or the school board.

Ask these Fecal Deposits is a kids life is worth it?
 
After reading many articles about it. This one caught my eye and wonder why didn't the authorities investigated him?.

Pagourtzis' social media pages showed multiple images of guns. He recently posted a photo wearing a T-shirt reading "Born to Kill" and there were also photos of a long dark jacket with Nazi symbols.
 
To add to Prim0's 10 cents.


Most school shootings since 2009

USA 288
Mexico 8
South Africa 6
India 5
Canada 2
France 2
Russia 1
Germany 1
Greece 1
China 1
UK 0
 
Again, appolagize for sticking my nose in running another person's country.

But I really think it is simply, that local governments or other wise, should drop the discussion surrounding this issue of whether the cause is too many guns, or too few guns.

But as when things get political, the actual problem is ignored, and selfishness gets in the way.

There are numerous solutions, or at least methods to reduce the attacks, but people in places of power just have to get off the collective asses, and act for the benefit of the children, NOT their own agenda.
 
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Prim0 said:
I don't know where you got the numbers but they are often skewed. Look at the list of what is considered a "school shooting" in those reports last month that claimed 18 in 2018. Most had nothing to do with a school other than they were in the area of a school.

And do you really think that things are safer in Mexican schools than in US schools? I had a friend that lived in Mexico City for awhile.....had to have armed guards with him everywhere and his kids went to a private school with guards armed with machine guns. So it's either way more dangerous there that they need that, or the presence of armed guards works in Mexico since they have so few school shootings. Maybe we should adopt that here and protect our children in the US.

You are just like the wishy washy politicians trying to make excuses . You know very well in Mexico the armed guards are to protect against kidnapping and holding the child out for ransom.

The US has a problem, instead of trying to mask it under some ancient 2nd amendment law why not do something about it. Vote in some politicians with balls. Although I have a feeling this within time will happen. To many are getting fed up losing loved ones.

One more thing, DO you really believe if the government decides to take you out for whatever reason your AK47 is going to protect you and your family?
 
Let's be clear

I do not give a rats ass about why he did this.
I care about the VICTIMS not the killer.
 
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