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No co-ed phys-ed, music: Muslims. Dozen families want children excused

Paranoid Phantom

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Don't want to be rude but this is our Country. We all live by it's rules. If they are not happy with it they can always go back home, no?.

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/b...=/breakingnews&id=115354939&viewAllComments=y

A dozen Muslim families, who recently arrived in Canada, have told the Louis Riel School Division they want their children excused from compulsory elementary school music and co-ed physical education programs for religious and cultural reasons. "This is one of our realities in Manitoba now, as a result of immigration," said superintendent Terry Borys.

"We were faced with some families who were really adamant about this. Music was not part of the cultural reality," he said. Borys said the division has alerted Education Minister Nancy Allan about the situation, because music and phys-ed are compulsory in elementary schools. There have been no issues, so far, with children of middle school or high school age, he said.

The families accept physical education, as long as the boys and girls have separate classes, but do not want their kids exposed to singing or playing musical instruments, Borys said. The division has suggested kids could do a writing project to satisfy the music requirements of the arts curriculum, he said.

However, a local Muslim leader says there is no reason for little kids to be held out of music or phys-ed classes on religious and cultural grounds. That shouldn't be happening, said Shahina Siddiqui, executive director of the Islamic Social Services.
"Who is advising them? My first concern would be, who are these new immigrants talking to?" said Siddiqui. "This is the first time I am hearing this -- I'm not very happy about it."

Siddiqui said there is no problem with elementary school children taking phys-ed together: "No, not with little kids under the age of puberty."Some middle school and senior high students have asked not to mix genders in phys-ed, and they have been accommodated by schools, she said.

Siddiqui acknowledged music can be an issue, but only for a few people. "Music is controversial in our community -- this is a North American phenomenon," she said.
"There is a minority view that music is forbidden. (That view) is not accepted by the majority."Borys said there had been one or two requests for kids to be excused previously, but this year a dozen families came forward at six schools.
Borys said LRSD contacted a member of the Islamic community whom the parents suggested, consulted the Manitoba Human Rights Commission and looked at what other jurisdictions are doing about accommodation, particularly Ontario.

The division is trying to figure out what issues might arise when the children enter junior high or high school, he said. Music is optional beyond Grade 6, but phys-ed is co-ed right through Grade 12.
 
Paranoid Phantom said:
https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/b...=/breakingnews&id=115354939&viewAllComments=y
However, a local Muslim leader says there is no reason for little kids to be held out of music or phys-ed classes on religious and cultural grounds. That shouldn't be happening, said Shahina Siddiqui, executive director of the Islamic Social Services.
"Who is advising them? My first concern would be, who are these new immigrants talking to?" said Siddiqui. "This is the first time I am hearing this -- I'm not very happy about it."

finally the voice of reason.

My hope is that the school board does not bow to these religious zealots.

Tell the parents to take it or leave it.
 
Maurice Boscorelli said:
finally the voice of reason.

My hope is that the school board does not bow to these religious zealots.

Tell the parents to take it or leave it.

My parents came to Canada 50 years ago and remember my Father telling my Mother when she did not like some laws.

"Mary there is always the option of going back to our Country. Take it or go back but you are going alone :) ".
 
You are not being rude PP. If we give in to that group a storm will arise with others with more stupid requests. Yes it is their religion believes then send them to a private school.
 
Once upon a time the immigrants to this country took the attitude that Tamer's dad had.
Now they are liable to say "Don't worry, we'll just raise a stink to change it and make it more like "home""
 
Short-hairless said:
Once upon a time the immigrants to this country took the attitude that Tamer's dad had.
Now they are liable to say "Don't worry, we'll just raise a stink to change it and make it more like "home""

Funny but the way the human rights group work they may just get it.
 
Tamer said:
My parents came to Canada 50 years ago and remember my Father telling my Mother when she did not like some laws.

"Mary there is always the option of going back to our Country. Take it or go back but you are going alone :) ".

Johnny is that you :gasp: :bad:.
 
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