Ontario Decision This Monday

[Dan]

I hope this does not backfire! There are too many questions left to answer and the answers our governments may come up with might really complicate the industry.

 

[L._s.]

Wut???!!:search:

PMS - private messages (nothing to do with a ladies time of the month)

 

[L._s.]

THERE was no mention of charges laid only questioning outside.

True no charges were laid but posts say that they were threatened - that the police would release their name to the public (and at some point in the future they would likely drop charges or not file a charge - just release their name on a "Johns List").

 

[Esco!]

PMS - private messages (nothing to do with a ladies time of the month)

LMAO....sorry for the misunderstanding

 

[j]

I'm going to disagree with Jilian on this one. Currently hundreds of Dancers & MPA's are licensed. That info is not public record. So Escort licenses would be the same.

I believe massage parlour attendents in Ontario have to be licensed, with no long term effects, and in Vancouver if someone works for an agency, they are checked to have an escort license. Indys don't get checked so don't have them, also an agency outside of the city of Vancouver can avoid that as well.

On the other hand, in Calgary and Edmonton, the cities totally go ovecommunity enforcing licensing for indy sps. It costs more in a fine than a year license.

It is ridiculous for an agency owner to come out and say sps won't get licensed, because of course they will. It is also a ridiculous claim, since licensing is a municipal issue anyway, and has nothing to do with the court decision to overturn those laws.

 

[j]

Actually, this was the appeal. As I understand it, the only way this can be fought anymore is at the Federal Supreme Court level. Remember, this is the result of a process that started 5 years ago. The same process is going in BC, but they filed it later. Ontario is the precedent.

And no one debates the social stygma, that's not really the point. The point is having a safer place to work, the ability to hire security, and to legitimise a trade that has been legal in Canada for 20 years but is still made unsafe by laws surrounding it.

It has actually always been legal, or at least, legal for maybe 150 years.

The laws recently overturned were brought in to control it in the mid 1980s. It is these laws that have only been around for a short time, but prostitution itself has always been legal.

And that is the real shame of these laws. That some consider having them is better than not having them, but 30 years ago they didn't exist. And 30 years ago, street walkers didn't huddle in the alleys of dark streets in industrial areas either. And 30 years ago, they didn't get picked up and taken somewhere and beaten to death either. So, forgive me if I object to the idea that working incall illegally or not legally be able to have a driver for outcall, or having a client in my private home, can get all of us arrested with these very recent laws imposed upon the legal business of prostitution.

The sps who work incall are also in danger, danger of exposure, because one of the first things a disgruntled client will do is threaten to call the cops on her. He thinks it is to accuse her of prostitution, but she knows that is legal. So the real threat is exposing her working incall from home.

 

[j]

What does this mean for us? Will there be more girls working now that the rules are different?

There has never been any increase in the number of people choosing to do sex work after decriminalization in other countries. I have no doubt that the majority of the general population continue to believe prostitution is illegal , in spite of all this in the news. In fact, for some, it just reinforces that misconception lol.

As a job, the main factor to choose or not choose to do it has never been the issue of being able to do legal incalls. Majority of new sps would have no idea what that means, or that, in fact, incalls are illegal now.

 

[Esco!]

So has the gubbernment appealed this yet??

They only have 3 weeks left