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Operation Northern Spotlight hits Alberta

I talked to the RCMP a few times when I lived in BC and they seemed quite fascinated to hear about the industry from my perspective of a very happy independent SP.

Unless they've been a client (and many of them are), I think most of their experience involves dealing with street hookers and drug addicted low end SP's, and they have no clue what it's like for ladies who have nice incalls and choose this as a career.
 
Primo, comparing gun control to who controls our bodies? There is a big difference.Telling someone what they can do with an inanimate object is a lot different than someone telling someone what they can and cannot do with their own bodies.I'm curious..... when you paint your interior do you have to paint all your walls the same color, lol?....Off topic, but I'm curious if everything you do follows the same patterns or rules, lol. Because you do seem to like to blanket all things, if one issue is handled one way then the other issues should be? Sorry, can't agree. Although I do agree that no matter how much something is regulated, or governed there will still be those that step beyond the laws and rules and cause chaos with them. I don't see gun ownership as a right, but I seem to think differently than many, however, who and what governs my body, will and no matter the laws, only EVER be ME:) Unless the government wants to become my pimp:wink2: that is:)
I don't mean to sound harsh or critical, but since you don't even participate in this lifestyle, how can you feel warranted speaking about it's regulations, etc?
 
I was thinking about Pivot Legal Society in Vancouver the other day, wondering if they were still advocating with the government on behalf of sex workers, and found this article today:

CEDAW, Sex Work, and Addressing Human Rights for Women in the Sex Industry

This week, Canada is presenting its eighth and ninth periodic reports to the United Nations' Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination against Women (CEDAW).

The Committee is holding its Sixty-Fifth Session in Geneva beginning October 24, reviewing the implementation of the provisions of the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women.

States party to the Convention commit themselves to ending all forms of discrimination against women in the political, economic, social, cultural, civil or other fields. The Committee, a 23-person expert body, monitors compliance with the Convention. It assesses to what extent each State party is meeting its obligations, and makes recommendations for the implementation of the Convention.

Pivot Legal Society with the Canadian Alliance for Sex Work Law Reform has made submissions to the Committee, entitled "CEDAW, Sex Work, and Addressing Human Rights for Women in the Sex Industry."

Summary of the Pivot/CASWLR submission


Full submission to CEDAW


https://www.pivotlegal.org/cedaw_sex_work
 
Prim0 said:
The second amendment is completely about what someone does with their bodies......how they defend their bodies from others who would take away a person's liberty to do what they wish with themselves. How about another example.....dog ownership? They aren't inanimate...they can do harm without the owners control. You must stand for dangerous dog breed bans if you stand for gun bans, right?







How are we supposed to make laws and rules if we cannot be consistent on the principles that they are based on are not consistent? That's the aspect I like to focus on. It must be my scientific background that has me looking for unifying rules. I don't like hypocrisy.....if you have rules for one situation but spin them around for another situation you end up with anarchy....nobody would trust the system if the system is full of exceptions.


So that's why I tend to want to apply the same principles to various types of situations. I don't think that recreations drug use is any different than alcohol use, and yet we treat them differently. What's the underlying principle?....I think that it has to do with an individual's rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What business is it of anyone else's what a person does with their body as long as that activity doesn't infringe upon the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of others. Go ahead and do drugs....any of them.....just don't go out and drive a vehicle, operate heavy machinery, etc. where you could do harm to others. Go ahead and partake of prostitution....as long as both individuals are of a legal age (that might be debatable as to what the age is) and both are participating freely of their own will, then nobody needs to stick their noses into it. As long as nobody is forced into the situation, it's all good. Want to own guns.....just don't use them on somebody else unless it is to protect yourself from harm. Want to own "vicious" dog breeds.....go ahead, just make sure they are always under your control so they don't hurt someone. No special treatment for gender, religion, sexual preferences, etc. Want to be a firefighter, pass the physical test without aids.

Can you see the consistency there? To me, that's a sign that the principle is working under all of those situations and to me, that is a good thing.

Things get screwed up when people want to start making exceptions. Suddenly you need huge government departments to oversee that those exceptions are adhered to. Common sense goes out the window as people start righting thousands and thousands of laws to oversee all of those exceptions and convoluted rules. It get's downright wasteful and ridiculous. The at the convoluted rules and thinking around abortion. What are the father's rights vs the mother's rights. When is it a child and not just a bunch of cells. Emotions get into it and people end up at each others throats.

So through these debates, discussions, arguments I'm just trying to figure out all of the principles (for myself and my beliefs). I want to figure them out so that they can work for everyone and perhaps point out where they might fail or the person fails to see them. There's no malice, there's no dislike, I have nothing against anyone who disagrees. I might be obnoxious in my responses sometimes....that's a personality flaw of mine.....but all I really wan to do is get to the bottom of issues. It makes me happy when I can see that a principle works on many different situations and tells me that I'm probably on the right track to figuring out some universal truth or something. That's all.

So again, I like all of you and hope we can keep hammering away at these ideas.

Lol,the picture made me laugh, your way of thinking, frustrates me.......Damn-Not too smartHere we go again with the dog comparisons,....so I'll use an example then, if the second amendment is about protecting oneself, ones body, it then should support abortion, shouldn't it. Since many who abort do so to save their own lives, they have to protect themselves from another and should have that right, if a fetus can be considered another and if we are going to be consistent about protecting oneself , right:)
Primo, maybe there is no universal truth and I see your way of thinking, your proposed use of principle as being dependent on everyone seeing one's right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as being the same and there in lies the problem, everyone doesn't see it the same. Applying the same principles to every situation is like expecting one hat to fit all heads. Exceptions will occur, they have too since perfection in law or rule doesn't exist, nor does it in human beings, nor is consistency a guarantee. Things change, mistakes happen and many issues can instigate a need for an exception, that doesn't mean the law or rule can't work, or won't work if different principles are applied to it.
So....... we see things differently, we think differently, and we both are obviously quite stubborn, with our views, lol.
 
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