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Ottawa sex workers call police sting 'intimidating'

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Ottawa sex workers are upset with an “intimidating” police strategy to crack down on human trafficking that has groups of uniformed officers showing up to conduct searches during scheduled dates.

Escorts have been answering the door dressed for dates without knowing they were booked by officers posing as clients, according to an advocacy group for the rights of sex workers, called POWER.
The police's fascination with prostitution will never end! Even after getting nearly all of the laws they've been using to harass the profession thrown out by the Supreme Court, they are now going after them on "human trafficking"? How exactly do they expect to find human trafficking by going after escorts, who usually work individually? Do they expect that they're going to get to the location and once the escort finds out that they're cops will say, "Thank god, you came, I'd have just kept doing this all by myself had you not shown up!"? Or maybe they expected that once they got to a hotel or apartment, that several other girls are going to jump out from behind the sofas complaining about being forced to be there? :SayWhat?:

Ottawa sex workers call police sting 'intimidating' - Ottawa - CBC News
 
This quote from the article is very telling and confirms the allegations by the police:
"“I don’t think they should be sacrificing 99 workers for the one, perhaps, illegal or underage worker they might find," she said.""
 
papasmerf said:
This quote from the article is very telling and confirms the allegations by the police:
"“I don’t think they should be sacrificing 99 workers for the one, perhaps, illegal or underage worker they might find," she said.""

They use one example to intimidate everyone else. It's time they leave the industry alone and focus only on underage or ladies that are forced by another. Getting into the industry because of financial reasons is not being forced into it, it's just a job.
 
They are doing their job which is to serve and protect albeit I can see how one voluntarily attempting to run what they perceive to be a legitimate business would be off put by the tactic being used.
 
In one of the other boards, one of the SP's said that the police weren't pushy, like the article said, and she found that they were quite polite. They were just looking for underage girls, and were just asking for proof of age, which they also told the girls that they didn't have to provide. So I'm wondering if it's just a sensationalistic tabloid journalism situation, or if maybe some of the cops weren't as polite as other cops? Hmmmmmm
 
blackram said:
In one of the other boards, one of the SP's said that the police weren't pushy, like the article said, and she found that they were quite polite. They were just looking for underage girls, and were just asking for proof of age, which they also told the girls that they didn't have to provide. So I'm wondering if it's just a sensationalistic tabloid journalism situation, or if maybe some of the cops weren't as polite as other cops? Hmmmmmm

I think some Police like all people are polite and for others the power goes to their head.
 
blackram said:
.......some of the cops weren't as polite as other cops? Hmmmmmm


This.

What they don't mention: they used the same number of cops (plainclothes) to visit a single indy sp working alone that they used visiting a spa/massage parlour >>>> 4
They sent the female officer (one out of four showing up) to the spas, but not to the indys.
They booked fake appointments to get access to the sp and her location. She was dressed to meet a client, not 4 male police officers.
They searched without permission at one sp's location for sure, and in fact with her explicitly telling them they could not open the closet door or bedroom door.
One officer stood outside the incall location, in full view of any neighbours who might be around wondering wtf?? Most sps let them in, even knowing they had the right to refuse them entry, because they didn't want the neighbours to see the spectacle.
While they seemed to have followed the instructions they show in the police announcement and the chief's understanding of what went on, the officers who went to the indy locations of at least 2 sps did NOT show their badges, did not provide a business card they claimed were being given out, and were dismissive and rude to the sps who asked for this information. What the sps did get was a number scribbled on a piece of paper to contact.
They contacted and visited more than one indy sp (who did not advertise on back page btw), who have a much more professional presence (website, pro pics, ages are over 25, obviously non-foreign workers, and not cookie cutter ads, and no indication of 24/7 availability. In fact, none of the signals that anyone would normally associate with coerced or underage sps. In fact, the only 'advice' they got before starting out on this was from an abolitionist group, in spite of the fact that pro sex work and sex worker groups in the past have attempted to dialogue with police in Ottawa.

The announcement/reports indicate this was a big nationwide event, and a number of police agencies are named. (No BC ones, btw, just up to Alberta). No one other than Ottawa and surrounding areas seem to be reporting that they were contacted or visited by this 'huge (according to Ottawa police chief) initiative.

In fact, this seems to be one of the few references I've seen outside of Ottawa based sites.

The officers who visited the spas knew they'd be encountering more than just one person (as in he said she said couldn't apply there) but when visiting a solo sp, they would be able to get away with more rude behaviour. They, for example, believed they'd be dealing with street worker mentality, the last people likely to lodge complaints or know their rights.

They were wrong. The police chief also claims he received only one complaint from those visited. He may not have gotten them all on his desk yet, but that's just because with the scrap of paper and phone number the sps received, they've kind of had a hard time finding the right person to lodge those complaints. Which is why POWER is involved.
 
This was just posted by Maggie's on another forum:

Condemnation grows as sex workers’ groups speak out against police harassment
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Condemnation grows as more sex workers’ groups speak out against police harassment, urge Parliament to go a different route

January 29, 2014. Toronto-- Big Susie’s, Sex Professionals of Canada, Sex Workers Action Group Kingston, Stepping Stone, Maggie’s: The Toronto Sex Workers Action Group and Stella join fellow sex workers’ organizations in condemning recent police activities that use deception and intimidation to investigate trafficking and exploitation, driving the sex trade further underground and away from safety. 330 sex workers across the country were targeted.

In cities across Canada, male officers are posing as clients to book appointments with indoor sex workers. Several officers then show up at the worker's door, demanding entry in order to check for signs of trafficking or coercion. Once inside, officers bombard the worker (usually a woman) with personal questions, demand to see ID and search the worker’s premises and possessions.

Tragically, such duplicitous and intimidating policing tactics hinder the important goal of surfacing actual cases of exploitation and coercion. "Part of our work as a sex workers' rights and advocacy organization is to support anybody who might find themselves in a coercive situation,” shares Phoenix from Maggie’s. “I can tell you that these sorts of deceitful and menacing approaches further degrade trust between sex workers and the police, and stop people in exploitative situations from seeking and accepting police assistance.“

This policing strategy seems to contradict the recent Supreme Court decision that insisted that the law cannot be used to further endanger the security and safety of sex workers. As Valerie Scott from Sex Professionals of Canada points out, “Police intimidation pushes us further into the shadows, and sets up the same kind of circumstances that the Supreme Court just ruled are unacceptable.” Sex workers express feeling intimidated by the current police tactic and coerced into allowing police into their homes and worksites. Privacy and dignity are compromised. “I understand the importance of identifying and stopping abuse,” says Emma, a sex worker in the GTA. “But scaring and intimidating women isn’t the way to do it. I mean, several

uniformed cops at my door asking to be let in? While I'm standing there in my lingerie and heels? I would likely let them in just so my neighbours and landlord won't know what's going on. The last thing I need is to lose my home. Not to mention it scaring off clients and me losing money. It’s not like this is some minor inconvenience."

We urge politicians and law enforcement to recognize the unintended yet serious harm caused by poorly designed laws and tactics intended to fight exploitation. "As Parliament tackles prostitution law reform over the next few months, they should be cautious not to develop laws that, in the name of helping women, actually compromise their safety and well-being," comments Amy Lebovitch, a sex worker and activist with Sex Professionals of Canada. “Otherwise, we will have more of the sort of deception and intimidation we are seeing with this recent policing tactic – and worse.“

Laws that could cause such damage include those that do not criminalize sex workers directly but aggressively target their managers and clients. As Kara Gillies, a sex worker and advocate, says, “The problem is that there is no way to go after our clients and managers without hurting our income and security. And those approaches harm not only us but also the majority of clients and managers who are benevolent, not exploitative.”

Sex workers would like to have other strategies developed to decrease exploitation and increase safety. Mz. Scream from Big Susie’s explains: “In fact, sex workers are well equipped to work together with business owners to build a better business practices model including a minimum set of health and safety labour standards, and an official complaints process so that we can weed out the bad clients and managers under our own governance.”

Collectively we are calling on local and national police forces to stop using deceptive and intimidating tactics against sex workers. As Chanelle Gallant, Spokesperson for Maggie’s states, “Harassing over 300 sex workers in this manner is a misuse of police resources, oversteps acceptable police conduct and undermines everyone’s right to fair application of the law.”


CONTACTS:
Big Susie’s: Big Susie's is a working group by and for sex workers in Hamilton and the surrounding areas. Our purpose is to fight back against the stigma and silence that degrades, devalues and dehumanizes sex workers and their work. Big Susie's is a sex-positive and sex worker-positive organization that advocates for the total decriminalization of sex work to allow sex workers self-determination of their own bodies. [email protected]

Maggie's: The Toronto Sex Workers Action Project is an organization run for and by local sex workers. Our mission is to assist sex workers in our efforts to live and work with safety and dignity. We are founded on the belief that in order to improve our circumstances, sex workers must control our own lives and destinies.
Contact: Chanelle Gallant [email protected], 416 964-0150

Sex Professionals of Canada (SPOC) is a sex worker activist group whose main objective is to work toward the decriminalization of sex work through political activism and public awareness. Contact: Amy Lebovitch [email protected] - 416.880.6034 -

Sex Workers Action Group Kingston (SWAG) is a sex positive group run by sex workers, people with lived experience, allies, and agency members who strive to improve the lives of sex workers in Kingston and surrounding area. [email protected]

Stella, l’amie de Maimie (Montréal, Quebec). Stella is Montréal’s organization run by and for sex workers. Since 1995, Stella has fought for better working conditions for sex workers working in all sectors of the industry, promoting health and human rights

Stepping Stone is a charitable not for profit organization that offers supportive programs and outreach to women, men and transgender sex workers and former sex workers in Halifax, NS. (902) [email protected]

https://****.ca/vbulletin/showthrea...92-groups-speak-out-against-police-harassment
 
shadowsun said:
This.

What they don't mention: they used the same number of cops (plainclothes) to visit a single indy sp working alone that they used visiting a spa/massage parlour >>>> 4

That must explain the difference of opinion amongst different SW populations about how intrusive/intimidating their visits were. Those working as part of a collective, and able to afford full-time lawyers had a pleasant, or at least a benign visit from the police, while others had a nerve-wracking time. The police themselves also likely knew the difference and had entirely different attitudes when visiting one type or the other.
 
HOOKED said:
Isn't it strange how this started in Ottawa??

when you going to unionize the ladies and level the playing field.

their working dues could be at 11%

and their quarterly dues could be equal to one hour per quarter.

You could have 100% drug and health testing.
 
papasmerf said:
when you going to unionize the ladies and level the playing field.

their working dues could be at 11%

and their quarterly dues could be equal to one hour per quarter.

You could have 100% drug and health testing.

Now your thinking like a union man, well done. I see my presence is having a positive affect on you unlike you know who.:he:
 
Glad it is not in one of the areas I play. What would I say?

"PLEASE Mr Officer! Save me! I've been forced to suffer through countless orgasms and had money given to me just for having had those orgasms!"

Right before going shopping at my favourite lingerie store.

(Not trying to be glib here. I get what they are doing but they do a piss poor job of it.)

:NoNoNo:
 
They are trying to stir the pot and show the need for new laws, probably at the request of the federal government.
 
HOOKED said:
They are trying to stir the pot and show the need for new laws, probably at the request of the federal government.

My life and my career are absolutely NOT the stereotypical description used by the media and government officials! :NoNoNo:
 
papasmerf said:
when you going to unionize the ladies and level the playing field.

their working dues could be at 11%

and their quarterly dues could be equal to one hour per quarter.

You could have 100% drug and health testing.

I think the labour union idea may actually be exactly what is needed here. It seems the officers involved here acted much more decently around established massage spas which have access to ready legal advice, than they did around independent SW's. Massage spas employ high-powered lawyers, most independents can't afford that. Having a labour union will allow the independents access to lawyers too.
 
blackram said:
I think the labour union idea may actually be exactly what is needed here. It seems the officers involved here acted much more decently around established massage spas which have access to ready legal advice, than they did around independent SW's. Massage spas employ high-powered lawyers, most independents can't afford that. Having a labour union will allow the independents access to lawyers too.

There are people working on ideas like this already. :good:
 
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