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it isn't so much the amount of sex that kids are exposed to, or that our society has become sexualized, that isn't the problem. It is how they are taught to deal with it....and that's where the parents step in. It's ok to have sex, but responsibly.

Any parent of any teen girl who isn't on the pill ought to be taken out to the back room and bitch slapped. seriously. I think it should be mandatory, maybe even a bylaw, no matter what the religion, that any teen female who is of "breeding" age (for lack of a better term) should be put on the pill or some other form of birth control.

When I was 15, and I had a steady gf, we became sexually active and my parents encouraged us to a) do it in the basement and b) spoke to BOTh of us about birth control and even before that, I made sure my gf was on the pill. Then the second GF I took her to MY doctor and had her go on the pill. She wouldn't go to her doctor because he might tell her parents. I said "if he did, he could lose his licence for breach of patient/doctor priviledge.

Being a parent, if I found another parent supplying booze to kids at parties? I'd be on the phone to the cops asap. Now at home? that's another story. I remember my dad giving me the odd beer once in a while and he said: if you're going to drink, you're going to do it at home. If I had a buddy over? Nope, the buddy would have to call his parents and my dad would check with them first. Then it was only ONE.

As per that 70's show, my basement was THE hang out place and believe me, my parents kept a close eye on us.

The Stripper Pole thing: that's my pont exactly. It is ok to be sexually active, but have some self respect. When you're 18, and can make your own decisions, then if you want to strip, then so be it. It is almost like it is cool to be a tramp, cool to be ghetto. I tried to instill some sense of morality to my niece, but it fell on deaf ears.

A buddy of mine had 2 teen daughters. I said to him one day: are they on the pill? oh noooOOoooOOooo they aren't interested in BOYS noooOOoooOoooo I said "you're a bonehead" and sure enuff, not 2 weeks after I said this his daughter posted on her facebook page that she had a BF and there were pictures of them making out at a garage party with empty beer bottles everywhere.....bonehead dumbfuck idiot.......

I'm not a parent and there are those that blasted me saying "you don't know how it is...." sure, but being on the outside looking in my sight isn't shaded by any parental relationship.....what's that saying? I can see the forest AND the trees.......

I've said this before: one of my previous jobs was in the trade show industry. One of the booths I worked on was to bring attention to the plight of street kids. The agency involved polled a large number of street kids and had them write their story down. I read a bunch of them. You know, I'd say easily 80% of them ran away because their parents were to strict? Because (one wrote) her parents FORCED her to do chores around the house AND do homework...OMFG the horror...the horror....so now she's eating out of garbage cans and has herpes......

I think one of the biggest issues is the fact that everyone is afraid to do what needs to be done in regards to kids and bad behaviour. Parents are afraid they'll run away, cops won't do a thing, in my day? You stepped out of line, the parents would have no problem beating the crap outta you. If you ran away? They called the cops, the cops tracked you down, and brought you back ASAP. I remember during the high school teachers strike, a buddy and I were walking down the street and the cops stopped us and made sure we weren't playing hookie......

Now I'm not saying what my parents did was totally right, but it wasn't totally wrong either. I mean, if I came home and said I got a girl pregnant or a class mate got pregnant? OMFG the shame attached to it......you'd never see that girl again. Now? they are celebrated and supported and coddled and they even have daycare in fricken highschools. IMO THAT is the wrong thing to do......When I was in my late 30's, I had a neighbour who was a grandmother at 30....I was invited to her daughter's wedding at 16....the daughter was pregnant. HOLY FUCK......now I can pretty much guarantee you that the granddaughter who should be 15 by now? I bet she's pregnant now too......the cycle continues.....
 
I think you have some very strong points there Tboy.

Particularily in regards to responcible sexuality. I remember being 16/17 and "in love" with my gf. Damn good thing she was on the pill, Im pretty sure we never came up for air lol

There were several teen pregnancies in my daughters HS last year. I live in a middle class bedroom community, there is no lack of access or shortage of funds keeping these kids from having adaquet Birth control, just a lack of responcibility.

Ive had the pill chat with my daughter...and said as soon as she feels she is ready for that level of relationship I will drive her to the doctors myself. So far her responce has been ---I dont need it yet, Im not in a relationship, and sure guys may want to hook up with me but I have no intention of being the slu at the party that everyone is facebooking about monday morning. Besides if I let some random get with me, hed be telling everyone and I would feel like he had somehow "won" and I had lost---

None the less, since shit happens, Im thinking the time is pretty close to just suggest it as a cautionary measure....

Dont get the wrong idea, my kid makes plenty of mistakes and is far from an angel...but I will ground her if its required.....and she knows it....doesnt stop all the bonehead moves but cuts them down alot.

Complicated job this parenting.....why dont these damn kids come with a manual, my dvd did, laptop did....car...big thick manual....wow 10 minutes of pleasure making them lifetime of worry raising them lol.
 
scotty said:
I also mentioned that I hope there is a difference between a sp with a definite business plan, and wild chicks hoping for 15 seconds of fame flashing their boobs and a t shirt( Thanks Tboy)

Does it matter to guys if an escort has a business plan? Maybe.

Suppose it's just a living, she's just scraping by?
Or if she blows the whole wad on travel and living the good life with no savings?
Or she's a slut who likes to fuck and sees getting paid as just a bonus?

Does it make a difference in who you book or are you just looking for a beautiful woman who treats you well? I think it's cool and laudable when they have the smarts and a plan but it's not a top priority in my decision.
 
But as long as they know what they're doing and why. It leans towards what kind of a woman she is and to me, that does matter.

1) just scraping by: I don't think that would be possible being a relatively popular sp. If they can't survive on $1000 - $2000 cash a week, there's something majorly wrong and they aren't the type I want to be around. drugs? alcohol? fucked up life?
2) If she's living the good life with the money she makes, that's cool too. Least she's using the money for something. Travel and seeing the world isn't a bad thing. I mean hell, there's lawyers, execs, CEOs who don't have a pot to piss in because they blow all their money.
3) I don't think a woman who likes to fuck is a slut, I've talked to a few sp's who are in this boat. They've said they've had BFs and just one guy can't satisfy them so they were picking up guys 4 times a week and then thought, I can do this AND make a decent living.

One thing I REALLY applaud the ladies about is when they are working their way through school. My ATF was doing just that. She stopped working when she graduated. IMO that's a noble cause and it's certainly better than wracking up massive student loans and never being able to pay them off.

I guess what I'm trying to say is there are valid reasons to be an sp and some invalid ones. Namely drug or alcohol addiction or mental illness.

Scotty: I think the key word for you with your daughter is: relationship. A woman doesn't have to be in a relationship to have sex. If she meets a guy wherever and her hormones take over THAT is the time when accidents happen. Rarely are they planned so what you have to do is plan for that eventuality. ie: put her on the pill BEFORE she becomes sexually active, not after......after? it's too late......
 
Yes tboy I hear you.

Thats one reason why I have a low tolerance for her drinking or using herbal products...those things really cloud your judgement.

It is why I posted that since "shit happens its about time for a cautionary measure" wrote more but editied myself in advance as maybe discussing to much real world here lol.

Auggie ..what Tboy said +
I meant the girls that the youngsters want to imitate often have a plan...ie Paris Hilton, but the kids dont think it thru, Paris and the others didnt get where they are by randomly being sleazy its either a carefully formulated plan...or damage control that fits an overall plan.

Like the actress who always plays air heads..the are certainly clever women not the characters they portray or some more clever individual would have taken their place in the massive line of would be actresses.

I like beautiful and normally inaccessible women but add brains to that and she has me hooked. lol
 
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