Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are right and God.....

[God]

isn't 'a magician with a magic wand'



What did I tell you?.

I am not perfect.

The theories of evolution and the Big Bang are real and God is not “a magician with a magic wand”, Pope Francis has declared.

Speaking at the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, the Pope made comments which experts said put an end to the “pseudo theories” of creationism and intelligent design that some argue were encouraged by his predecessor, Benedict XVI.

Francis explained that both scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator – arguing instead that they “require it”.

“When we read about Creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so,” Francis said.
He added: “He created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfilment.

“The Big Bang, which today we hold to be the origin of the world, does not contradict the intervention of the divine creator but, rather, requires it.
“Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.”

The Catholic Church has long had a reputation for being anti-science – most famously when Galileo faced the inquisition and was forced to retract his “heretic” theory that the Earth revolved around the Sun.

But Pope Francis’s comments were more in keeping with the progressive work of Pope Pius XII, who opened the door to the idea of evolution and actively welcomed the Big Bang theory. In 1996, John Paul II went further and suggested evolution was “more than a hypothesis” and “effectively proven fact”.

Yet more recently, Benedict XVI and his close advisors have apparently endorsed the idea that intelligent design underpins evolution – the idea that natural selection on its own is insufficient to explain the complexity of the world. In 2005, his close associate Cardinal Schoenborn wrote an article saying “evolution in the sense of common ancestry might be true, but evolution in the neo-Darwinian sense – an unguided, unplanned process – is not”.

Giovanni Bignami, a professor and president of Italy’s National Institute for Astrophysics, told the Italian news agency Adnkronos: “The pope’s statement is significant. We are the direct descendents from the Big Bang that created the universe. Evolution came from creation.”

Giulio Giorello, professor of the philosophy of science at Milan’s University degli Studi, told reporters that he believed Francis was “trying to reduce the emotion of dispute or presumed disputes” with science.

Despite the huge gulf in theological stance between his tenure and that of his predecessor, Francis praised Benedict XVI as he unveiled a bronze bust of him at the academy's headquarters in the Vatican Gardens.

“No one could ever say of him that study and science made him and his love for God and his neighbour wither,” Francis said, according to a translation by the Catholic News Service.

“On the contrary, knowledge, wisdom and prayer enlarged his heart and his spirit. Let us thank God for the gift that he gave the church and the world with the existence and the pontificate of Pope Benedict.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...snt-a-magician-with-a-magic-wand-9822514.html



Pope Francis look on during the unveiling of a bronze bust in honor of Pope Benedict XVI on October 27, 2014 at the Vatican

 

[Falconero]

/-Thumbs-up::/

 

[bobistheowl]

I don't subscribe to the to the theory of "The" big bang. I think there have been, and will be, a series of big bangs and big contractions, and that time and space are 'circular' to some extent. In a two dimensional model, with an expanding universe, eventually the matter heading 'east' of the epicenter of the most recent big bang will collide with matter heading 'west', as will 'north' and 'south'. Eventually, the collisions of matter will create additional black holes, which will become increasingly massive, and their gravity will attract each other, until all of the black holes merge with each other, and begin to contract into an increasingly small singularity which contains all of the mass in the universe. When the singularity reaches a certain minimum size, it will explode, causing the next big bang. During the brief period immediately following 'a' big bang, the speed of light will be faster than it is now, but will decelerate and stabilize. The brief moment during which light travels at 'hyper speed' accounts for the doppler effect, or 'red shift', and also explains why the universe expands in the first place.

After a 'near infinite' number of big bangs and contractions, eventually one big bang will be identical to one which has already occurred, and that's the end of the circle of space-time, and then everything happens again, in the same sequence of big bangs and big contractions. In essence, the start and end point of the circle are the same big bang, not a repetition. So everything that ever was will be again, eventually. I honestly don't know how many times I've told you all of this, and you never will believe me, because you don't, which means you didn't, and you won't. I, for one, am very much looking forward to reliving the nights of October 10 and 11, 1990, even if I have to wait for eternity to so do.

 

[TommyJohn]

In an address to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, the Pope explains that God is not some sort of wizard.

Arguments around creation and evolution sometimes seem too similar to "Which came first? The chicken or the egg?"

Science and religion get placed on either side of a spectrum, with a section in the middle for those who'd like to hedge their bets.

On Monday, the pope outlined his belief with respect to God and evolution. Speaking to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, Pope Francis insisted that there was no reason to believe that God and evolution were somehow incompatible.

It's just, he suggested, that God came first.

He said, according to Breitbart's translation: "Evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve." Though God is, he said, no wizard, he's still at the heart of all things, because he's the creator of all things.

 

[Cardinal Fang]

I don't subscribe to the to the theory of "The" big bang.

How could you NOT! Kaley Cuoco is farking hot!

 

[User-E]

I concur.

 

[Cardinal Fang]

I masturbate.

 

[papasmerf]

I masturbate to the Village People.

Fixed your post

 

[Transient]

I prefer some of Pope Francis' earlier work.

 

[Cardinal Fang]

Fixed your post

Thank you.....:biggrin2:

 

[oldguyzer]

Next the pope will be saying "It's all a joke...God doesn't exist! We fooled you, and we're sorry. Now go home." :biggrin2:

 

[oldguyzer]

I don't subscribe to the to the theory of "The" big bang. I think there have been, and will be, a series of big bangs and big contractions, and that time and space are 'circular' to some extent. In a two dimensional model, with an expanding universe, eventually the matter heading 'east' of the epicenter of the most recent big bang will collide with matter heading 'west', as will 'north' and 'south'. Eventually, the collisions of matter will create additional black holes, which will become increasingly massive, and their gravity will attract each other, until all of the black holes merge with each other, and begin to contract into an increasingly small singularity which contains all of the mass in the universe. When the singularity reaches a certain minimum size, it will explode, causing the next big bang. During the brief period immediately following 'a' big bang, the speed of light will be faster than it is now, but will decelerate and stabilize. The brief moment during which light travels at 'hyper speed' accounts for the doppler effect, or 'red shift', and also explains why the universe expands in the first place.

After a 'near infinite' number of big bangs and contractions, eventually one big bang will be identical to one which has already occurred, and that's the end of the circle of space-time, and then everything happens again, in the same sequence of big bangs and big contractions. In essence, the start and end point of the circle are the same big bang, not a repetition. So everything that ever was will be again, eventually. I honestly don't know how many times I've told you all of this, and you never will believe me, because you don't, which means you didn't, and you won't. I, for one, am very much looking forward to reliving the nights of October 10 and 11, 1990, even if I have to wait for eternity to so do.

And you base this brilliant piece of theory on....what? Your knowledge of cosmology? Your intimate knowledge of quantum super positioning? Or some random post on the Internet?

 

[Goodfella]

Would hit.

 

[bobistheowl]

And you base this brilliant piece of theory on....what? Your knowledge of cosmology? Your intimate knowledge of quantum super positioning? Or some random post on the Internet?

I challenge you to provide an argument that can prove my theory to be impossible, within reasonable doubt. In other words, convict me. Use the vast array of knowledge you have accumulated from other people's opinions, and persuade the jury in your closing argument. You don't need to provide a mathematical nor a logical proof, nor any proof at all. Just convince all twelve jurors that I'm wrong. You can chose six jurors by private message, as will I, to be invited to watch. When you have your six jurors, post their handles in this thread, and I will chose my six from the remaining pool of members.

The defense case has rested. I will offer no rebuttal. Prove me wrong.

While I realize (and am truly impressed) that you spend two afternoons a week teaching grannies to use a mouse, and you can use wikipedia to look stuff up, I repeat my offer: "Any time you want to compare technical credentials, put your money on the table".

Pick the criteria: academic credentials, technical certifications, publications, teaching history, job position, technical knowledge....I let you choose any combination you wish. Otherwise, you're just spouting a lot of hot air.

I chose Law, and right now. If you can have me convicted, you may chose my avatar and custom title for the ten day period of Friday, November 7 through Sunday, November 16, 2014. If you fail to have me convicted, I will chose your avatar and custom signature for the same period.

Or, You may quote my challenge above, in this thread, and post 'Uncle' below. Game on.

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And that's how you do the Honey Pot Trap.

 

[Art Mann]

Ain't Catholic. Ain't religulous. Ain't Argentinian.

But I kinda like this Pope Frank guy.

Now I just want to hear him belting out "My Way"

 

[User-E]

I don't subscribe to the to the theory of "The" big bang. I think there have been, and will be, a series of big bangs and big contractions, and that time and space are 'circular' to some extent.

I don't understand a lot of what you post, but I followed what you were saying here and agree that it's a plausible theory. :good:

You have a brilliant mind bobistheowl.

Are you good in bed??

:biggrin2:

 

[bobistheowl]

I don't understand a lot of what you post, but I followed what you were saying here and agree that it's a plausible theory. :good:

You have a brilliant mind bobistheowl.

Are you good in bed??

:biggrin2:

Ummm.....isn't that the sort of question that one would normally ask by Private Message?

But having been so bold as to do so out in the open, however, I rarely get any complaints, and when I do, they're only from the neighbour lady on the other side of the wall.

Since discovering the technique, to which I have alluded on a couple of occasions, two of the Escorts to whom I have imparted this knowledge have since retired, and the other has what could only be described as superhuman stamina.

I understand the tremendous responsibility of keeping this valuable information out of the hands of the great unwashed. Were I to share this information openly, this Industry, as we know it, would crumble to dust, after all these millennia, in six months, tops.

Consider the facts: A game of Football, and I mean real Football, not that soccer shit, is an hour long, the same length as an average session. Football teams generally play only one game every seven days, except in the CFL during the summer, or if they play Thursday night. If you were to use a stop watch that starts when the ball is snapped, and stops when the whistle blows the play dead, and totaled the actual amount of play within the hour, it would be something like six and a half minutes, (unless the game is close at the end), which, coincidentally, is also the amount of time in an average session in which the gentleman is in the game, so to speak.

Now, consider how different the game would be, if, lets say, they had 40 minutes or so of game action, instead of six and a half. The gentleman would get a lot more bang for his buck, but the lady would only be able to play once a week. If that was the case, she would be obliged to raise her rates proportionally, to offset the losses incurred by only working one hour per week. This, in turn, would cause her asking rate to be beyond the means of the average working stiff, and the whole shebang would be rubble before May 2-4 weekend, 'owe 15'.

It was, indeed, fortuitous that this valuable information was imparted to an individual who understands that, with great power, comes great responsibility. I only share the secrets of the technique with private or commercial paramours, to be allocated to the special gentlemen in their lives who get it on the house. This is why the men who pay the bills in this business must be forever denied this valuable information. I have to look at the bigger picture, and besides, why would I give a shit how long another guy can last?