PSE service - what is in it

[JustRiley]

I've always wondered about this

Always been curious and even a little confused of what is in a PSE service.

With plans of a relaunch and a total rebrand.

Would like to add PSE to the menu but also want to make sure I offer the right menu items plus stay in my comfort zone.

 

[Anonymous69]

Good luck on your relaunch.

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[ERecTile]

My understanding is that it includes things like cum on face, cum in mouth, swallow, cum anywhere other than condom, and possible greek. But really comes down to your comfort zone.

I think its also a statement on the style of service. Like a gfe service would be more intimate with sensual kissing and a pse would be a bit wilder with crazy dfk.

Im more a gfe guy so I dont really get the pse style. I had it with a MPA once and it was wild and fun at the time, but it wasnt worth a repeat for me.

 

[cristycurves]

Gfe, pse, gf, etc are styles of services and don't necessarily indicate particular services offered. However, everyone will have a different perception and believe in a particular protocol when listing services"types" or "styles". I do believe it has been ingrained in many to believe a gfe type of service as being a sensually passionate girlfriend experience and pornstar, more porn like, a more aggressive vocal type of experience. But what one pornstar type escort may do another may not and likewise with gfe type escorts. In the end you can call yourself what YOU choose and offer the services you're comfortable with, there is no right or wrong, it boils down to how you want your clients to perceive your approach or style. Best of luck with whatever you choose and remember, do as you see fit, not what others say you should or shouldn't do

 

[ERecTile]

I'm no expert on rebranding or setting oneself up as a SP, but from a potential client point of view, when I look at various indies' sites these days, what draws my attention is not the acronyms but rather the lack of. For example, a couple of years ago, sure, i would look for that kind of experience. But, I like to think my hobby tastes and interests have matured somewhat, and what I would look for now is how well the SP presents herself through her words and pictures. I guess what I'm trying to say is maybe think of the type of client you want to attract, and present yourself in such a way that will attract that client. Write in such a way that when a guy reads, he will build an idea of what you're like and then when you meet him, fulfil his expectations in the way you act. Does that make sense? Sorry, I'm probably not saying it right....Basically, how you portray yourself in ads and online should be in line with the type of service you provide. So, if you portray yourself as a high end elegant provider, then you must carry that image through in all your interactions, both online and in service.

As I write this, I keep thinking of a particular SP who has always drawn my eye, and I've always wanted to see her, but for various reasons, I could not. I used to see her all the time on the red board (T), both in her ads and her interactions with the guys on the board, and she could engage in multitudes of topics and conversations. Kinda like cristycurves in that regard. I don't know if its ok to write her name here because I haven't seen her presence here, so PM me if you're interested.

 

[cristycurves]

@ERecTile, thank you.I don't think it's ever wrong to mention someone when speaking of them in a complimentary way, I'm sure no person would object to thatYou made good points, however, how we deal with online stuff can differ between how we deal in person with a client. Typically, I think I'm somewhat aggressive on forums, yet in person,I'm some what submissive, more passive. I suppose most of us are when we're in a more relaxed environment or situation Meaning on dates, I try not to discuss things that will bring about debates, or cause either person to become defensive or agitated Keep it light, sensual and fun

 

[Tommtom]

I have to agree with ERECTILE, although in contrast, I'm a novice in this type of industry. I believe the way you present yourself allows you to bring in a specific type of person. From Acronyms to Grammar, everything that represents you is based on those first impressions. I think leaving a tad of information, or making yourself more mysterious or enticing, like a "you'll only ever know if you see me" is infinitely stronger than a laid out plan. Although you don't have to be consistent in the way you type and speak, i believe most can tell when the two are really connected. Everybody.. Has a body.. but also a unique mind, what makes you stand out?

The only way I can think of comparing GFE and PSE is through cooking. There are some foods that just take time to prepare, cook and finish (GFE). It usually takes a really long time but all you really need is a steady hand and patience. Other foods require constant attention, chopping this, cutting that, flipping the pan a million times while juggling 3 tomatoes and a green bean (PSE). Then you have that mix of both, where you can let that pot boil for 30 minutes while you quickly prepare all the ingredients and mixes for the finish. All these dishes need different set of skills but can be ultimately done in more than one way, there isnt a definitive recipe, but just a guideline.

I'd say the best brand to sell is your brand

 

[Willy]

It means she is kinky and likes watching porn.

 

[ERecTile]

cristycurves, sounds like you're more gfe than pse, and Tommtom, love the food metaphor!

As for the indy I was refering to, I've always had a crush on her and I'd never even seen her face! It was just the way she portrayed herself on the forums. Her site was exquisite too. Just enough verbiage to intrigue and entice - probably too much for the quickie crowd so she weeds those out. I've seen her get into heated debates on a variety of topics - many that I know nothing about. All this from a woman who is presumably in her low to mid 20's. I did a quick google search and can't find her site anymore, so either she retired or changed her name. She is/was Chloe International Courtesan.

Another indy that may have retired is Scarlett Mae. Her site was also well done in terms of how she branded herself. She portrayed herself as the sweet sexy schoogirl who was curious about being a SP. Her, I've met and talked to a lot (but not in session), and she was super intelligent and sassy.

cristycurves, you present yourself here as a mature, experienced and compassionate woman. I haven't seen your site but for me, what I've seen her is in my mind, part of your branding.

3 different women, but what they all have in common is that I do not associate any of them with acronyms. In the MP world, I often like to say: "its not what they do, but how they do it". I believe that is true in the SP world. Anyone can kiss, anyone can have sex, but its not just about the actions, but about the total experience.

 

[cristycurves]

@ERecTile, yes I too feel I'm more gfe, although that can vary, depending on the client. I will too say that I prefer long calls, as I'm not a quickie lover. I like to enjoy my sessions too, and it takes time for me to get happy
Many of us appreciate men like you Erectile, who see us beyond the acronyms and realize we are individuals who offer an experience not "just" a service

 

[IFUSEEKAMY]

@ERecTile https://chloeworldwide.com She did post briefly on HUBGFE last year:

As for Scarlett, yes, she mentioned at the end of July that the only way left to contact her was thru email for travel dates.



It's cool to see you posting again, Riley. I imagine you get clients assuming you're more of a PSE experience after watching the porn you've made. It may be a good idea for you to outline your thresholds in that regard.

 

[Madman]

Welcome back Riley!!!!

PSE to most guys means CIM, COF but not necessarily a Greek tour , this is usually an upsell. I've seen on twitter indies trying to change the PSE menu with the newbies.

 

[JustRiley]

Thanks for the warm welcomes everyone

I personally don’t like acronyms they were used by the agencies when I was starting out being a SP – starting as an SP it felt like people judge my videos as who I am instead of who I am pretending to be in that moment of time.

Videos there is A LOT Of edits that people never get to see unless they are on set. It’s amazing what the mind can you tell you is real when it’s really not.

Thanks everyone this helps a lot with what I have planned coming up.

 

[ERecTile]

Videos?? Where can I check those out?

 

[JustRiley]

Videos?? Where can I check those out?

Knock yourself out https://bit.ly/2cdKufh

 

[ERecTile]

Knock yourself out https://bit.ly/2cdKufh

Wow. Well, I don't think you need anyone to tell you what PSE means! That is exactly what PSE means. Very sexually charged, no holds barred fuck fest! It's not normally my cup of tea, and I've only had it maybe once or twice, but it's fun once in a while to cut loose and go nuts.

 

[JustRiley]

Wow. Well, I don't think you need anyone to tell you what PSE means! That is exactly what PSE means. Very sexually charged, no holds barred fuck fest! It's not normally my cup of tea, and I've only had it maybe once or twice, but it's fun once in a while to cut loose and go nuts.

There still needs to be a disclaimer in this type of service. But I think I can break down a menu from my shoots from 2007 and that would be ideal to offer in sessions.

 

[ERecTile]

There still needs to be a disclaimer in this type of service. But I think I can break down a menu from my shoots from 2007 and that would be ideal to offer in sessions.

Maybe kill 2 birds with one stone. Post the vid (or vids) and say something like "Wanna do me like this?"

 

[007]

Knock yourself out https://bit.ly/2cdKufh

:writing:

 

[Chloë]

cristycurves, sounds like you're more gfe than pse, and Tommtom, love the food metaphor!

As for the indy I was refering to, I've always had a crush on her and I'd never even seen her face! It was just the way she portrayed herself on the forums. Her site was exquisite too. Just enough verbiage to intrigue and entice - probably too much for the quickie crowd so she weeds those out. I've seen her get into heated debates on a variety of topics - many that I know nothing about. All this from a woman who is presumably in her low to mid 20's. I did a quick google search and can't find her site anymore, so either she retired or changed her name. She is/was Chloe International Courtesan.

Another indy that may have retired is Scarlett Mae. Her site was also well done in terms of how she branded herself. She portrayed herself as the sweet sexy schoogirl who was curious about being a SP. Her, I've met and talked to a lot (but not in session), and she was super intelligent and sassy.

cristycurves, you present yourself here as a mature, experienced and compassionate woman. I haven't seen your site but for me, what I've seen her is in my mind, part of your branding.

3 different women, but what they all have in common is that I do not associate any of them with acronyms. In the MP world, I often like to say: "its not what they do, but how they do it". I believe that is true in the SP world. Anyone can kiss, anyone can have sex, but its not just about the actions, but about the total experience.

Aww, I'm very touched sir. I'm around, just getting into less heated debates and more travelling. Xo