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FUREY: Meet the spin doctor behind the Hussain family statement














The man who has presented himself as the point of contact for the family of Faisal Hussain is a professional activist who has reportedly committed himself to “framing a new narrative of Muslims in Canada” and creating a “national political movement.”
Shortly after the Ontario Special Investigations Unit revealed the identity of the Danforth shooter as 29-year-old Faisal Hussain, a news release was sent out to select media attributed to the “Hussain Family”.
The polished statement began with the family’s “deepest condolences to the families who are now suffering on account of our son’s horrific actions.” It then went on to explain that “our son had severe mental health challenges, struggling with psychosis and depression his entire life.”
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A statement allegedly from the family of Faisal Hussain
It was provided by Mohammed Hashim, a full-time organizer for the Toronto & York Region Labour Council. Social media accounts belonging to Hashim show him heavily involved in supporting NDP candidates both federally and provincially in Ontario. He’s also described as a driving force behind the National Council of Canadian Muslims.
“His groundbreaking political advocacy, public relations and media work has been widely credited by insiders as framing a new narrative for Muslims in Canada,” says a bio of Hashim connected to an appearance he made at CanRoots 2016, a left-wing activist conference.
The bio continues: “His workshop ‘Progressive organizing in the Muslim communities’ will demonstrate how the GTA Muslim community mobilized in the previous federal election, and laid the groundwork to start building a national political movement.”
Another bio from the 2017 Muslim Awards of Excellence continues this description of Hashim as something of a spin doctor, noting that “his talking points and media advocacy are changing how Muslims are seen in the Canadian identity.”



While there have been cases of high profile individuals hiring PR representatives for crisis management – such as Michael Bryant and Jian Ghomeshi – it’s rare to see it happen with someone not already in the public eye.
The media-savvy Hashim has been featured in stories for a variety of his activities including in his capacity as president of the board for the Erin Mills Youth Centre and as a leader of the Muslim community group DawaNet.
But despite his familiarity with media, Hashim refused to answer questions from the Sun about the Hussain family and his connection with them, including how long he had known them and whether he reached out to them or vice versa.
“I’m sorry I have no comment for the Toronto Sun,” said Hashim via an online exchange. “I think [Sun columnist] Joe Warmington’s piece was incredibly irresponsible and I have no trust in your organization to convey any truth.”
The Sun printed the Hussain family statement sent out by Hashim in full.

On Monday, Warmington reported that “Hussain apparently had been spoken to by authorities about his online activities. Sources say the Toronto Police, the OPP and the RCMP have all had an interest in the now-deceased alleged shooter.”




However, Hashim later responded to a separate request for comment from the Sun.
“I am just a friend of the family and have shared their statement as requested. I am not their spokesperson,” Hashim said via email.
“I’m sorry they are not doing any interviews for now.”

To date, no member of the Hussain family has spoken publicly or made any direct contact with media. Reports describe a family facing extensive challenges, as Hussain’s father is reportedly in and out of hospital with health issues, Hussain’s brother is in a coma and his sister died in a car crash several years ago.
It is believed Hussain lives with his mother in the Thorncliffe Park apartment that was scoured by police after the shooting.
Hashim would not clarify which family members contributed to the statement.

FUREY: Meet the spin doctor behind the Hussain family statement | Toronto Sun
 
This is fucking bullshit.

This PR guy, the polished statement. It is all suspect to be honest.

I dont doubt that this guy felt felt he was doing something for his beliefs. I don't believe that this was an "ISIS" attack as in the group knew and planned it but this guy did do this for his beliefs.

That to to me is terrorism. Anyone who plans to kill in masses in support of their movement/ideals is terrorism as far as I am concerned. The Van attack by the Incel was a terrorist attack.

But no no one wants to say that. Why? Is holding off calling things a terrorist attack going to make Canada seem safer??? Like what is the point?

We will call the shooting at the mosque one but we won't call the Incel guys attack as one. We won't call this one??? WTF???
 
Jessica Rain said:
This is fucking bullshit.

This PR guy, the polished statement. It is all suspect to be honest.

I dont doubt that this guy felt felt he was doing something for his beliefs. I don't believe that this was an "ISIS" attack as in the group knew and planned it but this guy did do this for his beliefs.

That to to me is terrorism. Anyone who plans to kill in masses in support of their movement/ideals is terrorism as far as I am concerned. The Van attack by the Incel was a terrorist attack.

But no no one wants to say that. Why? Is holding off calling things a terrorist attack going to make Canada seem safer??? Like what is the point?

We will call the shooting at the mosque one but we won't call the Incel guys attack as one. We won't call this one??? WTF???

It gets better Jessica, believe me. Just be patient. There are some things that will come out soon in this case that will make people's heads pop off. Truth is, the government and police are trying desperately to manipulate a catastrophic tire fire that is already burning too far out of control. Stay tuned! Don't touch that dial!
 
demien3k5 said:
It gets better Jessica, believe me. Just be patient. There are some things that will come out soon in this case that will make people's heads pop off. Truth is, the government and police are trying desperately to manipulate a catastrophic tire fire that is already burning too far out of control. Stay tuned! Don't touch that dial!

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Jessica Rain said:
This is fucking bullshit.

This PR guy, the polished statement. It is all suspect to be honest.

I dont doubt that this guy felt felt he was doing something for his beliefs. I don't believe that this was an "ISIS" attack as in the group knew and planned it but this guy did do this for his beliefs.

That to to me is terrorism. Anyone who plans to kill in masses in support of their movement/ideals is terrorism as far as I am concerned. The Van attack by the Incel was a terrorist attack.

But no no one wants to say that. Why? Is holding off calling things a terrorist attack going to make Canada seem safer??? Like what is the point?

We will call the shooting at the mosque one but we won't call the Incel guys attack as one. We won't call this one??? WTF???

Because Canada is being attacked from within.
 
ROBERTSON said:
Because Canada is being attacked from within.


Going to be very clear here. I am NOT saying this guy was a lone wolf Muslim terrorist. I am NOT saying that islam and sharia law are coming.

I believe that ANYONE who tries to kill in masses for their belief of green eyed alien rights for Venus is just as much a terrorist as an suicide bomber.

When you plan to kill as many people as possible in the name of "insert movement name here" - that is a terrorist attack. Terrorism is NOT merely a Muslim thing. Not by a long shot.

I truly wish that more more events were called terrorist attacks. It would take away from of the power they extermeist use theses attacks for and it would make people see just how much evil is out there in the world.
 
Jessica Rain said:
Going to be very clear here. I am NOT saying this guy was a lone wolf Muslim terrorist. I am NOT saying that islam and sharia law are coming.

I believe that ANYONE who tries to kill in masses for their belief of green eyed alien rights for Venus is just as much a terrorist as an suicide bomber.

When you plan to kill as many people as possible in the name of "insert movement name here" - that is a terrorist attack. Terrorism is NOT merely a Muslim thing. Not by a long shot.

I truly wish that more more events were called terrorist attacks. It would take away from of the power they extermeist use theses attacks for and it would make people see just how much evil is out there in the world.

No. you have not insinuated in any way that the terrorist attack on the Danforth was related to any religion, you are smart to get that out of the way before some idiot here accuses you of that.

And you are also correct that the attack on the Danforth, MUST be considered terrorism.

But I'm also sure some psychotic will insinuate that the murderer was not responsible, because he was mentally ill.

IF,... that was the case, only confirms that our government's mental heath agencies are not up to the job, one perfect example exists right here on HUBGFE.

But my point still stands that the reason this attack on the Danforth will not be considered an act of terrorism, is because of influence wielded by un-Canadian forces within Canada.
 
ROBERTSON said:
But I'm also sure some psychotic will insinuate that the murderer was not responsible, because he was mentally ill.

IF,... that was the case, only confirms that our government's mental heath agencies are not up to the job, one perfect example exists right here on HUBGFE..

did you really feel the need to bring that up again for the 100th time?

Condolences to the families of the victims, Toronto is going downhill for sure.
 
Muckchelle said:
did you really feel the need to bring that up again for the 100th time?

Condolences to the families of the victims, Toronto is going downhill for sure.

So nobody was/is responsible, shit happens, and that's it ?

And no, Toronto is NOT "going down hill for sure".

What is happening, government agencies and officials are NOT doing their jobs,... especially obvious in this last terrorist attack.

How many times does this have to happen, before there is some acknowledgment that a better job must be done by those who should be held responsible.

If we are to continue to accept the government agency "experts",... he isn't a terrorist, he simply has DOCUMENTED mental issues, who just happens to have a drivers license or a gun.
That simply lets those obviously over paid "experts" off the hook.

Sorry, I can't accept that.

And I am sincerely interested in your take on this point.

See also,... MANDEL: Mentally ill stabber in army recruiting centre attack to be allowed into community | Toronto Sun
 
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ROBERTSON said:
So nobody was/is responsible, shit happens, and that's it ?

And no, Toronto is NOT "going down hill for sure".

What is happening, government agencies and officials are NOT doing their jobs,... especially obvious in this last terrorist attack.

How many times does this have to happen, before there is some acknowledgment that a better job must be done by those who should be held responsible.

If we are to continue to accept the government agency "experts",... he isn't a terrorist, he simply has DOCUMENTED mental issues, who just happens to have a drivers license or a gun.
That simply lets those obviously over paid "experts" off the hook.

Sorry, I can't accept that.

And I am sincerely interested in your take on this point.

See also,... MANDEL: Mentally ill stabber in army recruiting centre attack to be allowed into community | Toronto Sun

My stance on mental health is that you have a responsibility to yourself and to the community to ensure you get the help you need so that you can be a functioning member of society and that your symptoms do not negatively impact others.

This is hard because

a) our mental health system sucks.
b) people don't hold those with mental illness more accountable. Just because you have a mental illness do not mean you have a free pass to be violent or abusive to others.
c) the stigma of mental illness from mainstream society has such a negative impact that it actually makes the situation worse.

For example, many people like to use offensive and labelling terms on a regular basis.

Calling people psychotics for example. Just like calling POC a thug. Except for the mental health community, label words are used more than any other marginalized group.

It is no longer acceptable to say "that is so gay" yet we, myself include, will say things like " wow, that is so crazy' and that can be for something positive.

The mental health community and mainstream society have a lot of work ahead of them to make a change, but sadly we are going in the opposite direction.
 
"Crazy" is not an acceptable medical term.

So using it as an adjective to describe an event, is NOT being disrespectful to those who genuinely have a mental issue.

I agree that saying,... "that is so gay",... could be construed as offensive to some.

But noting able to use "gay" in any form, is not acceptable, just because some "community" says so.
 
ROBERTSON said:
"Crazy" is not an acceptable medical term.

So using it as an adjective to describe an event, is NOT being disrespectful to those who genuinely have a mental issue.

I agree that saying,... "that is so gay",... could be construed as offensive to some.

But noting able to use "gay" in any form, is not acceptable, just because some "community" says so.

No crazy is not a medical term but it is a term that was and is widely used as a negative to someone with mental illness. I mean how many times have you read on a debate thread, someone calling someone else crazy, asking if they need meds, etc, etc because they have a different point of view and really nothing at all related to believing the other person actually does suffer from a mental illness. Not to mention that depending on how you ask, even asking a person who suffers from mental illness, if they are on their meds, is highly offensive. Especially in a debate or dispute as often it is used to devalue the person's feelings and therefore that person's POV is dismissed as not being valid or only being valid if the person is on their meds.

That is the point I was making. Kind of like using the R-word. It was originally used a lot to describe those with down syndrome and then also used in everyday language as a slang for many other things. It is however very offensive to those who suffer from things like down syndrome or other low IQ type illnesses.

People don't even realize how much of their standard everyday language and slang, is offensive. Everyone worries about offending POC, the LGTBQ2+ community, Muslims and other religious groups but no one really cares about what they say that is offensive to the mental health community and certainly there are more people who suffer from mentalism then bigotry and racism. IMHO
 
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