The part that really irks me with PETA is that they kill animals themselves, and they also attack Inuit people for their use of seal. I have no idea how Inuit are supposed to go vegan in an environment with no edible plants or stay warm without fur, nevermind the racism involved in white people telling First Nations people that they're barbaric for their millennia-old survival practices. Real fur is just warmer than synthetic because evolution is time tested. I'm not exactly happy with the commercial fur industry, but PETA is not exactly the most ethical organization either (funding ecoterrorists that bomb medical research labs at Universities doesn't exactly strike me as anti-ableist or particularly concerned with human life). And I myself have a wonderfully warm comfy rabbit fur coat that is a family heirloom and is centuries old. A lot of fur is thrifted or otherwise old. But then, these are the people who yell at me for drinking milk and not subsisting entirely on salad even AFTER I explain I have a medical condition that makes it impossible for me to digest vegetables or nuts. But sure, I'm supposed to starve to death because a one tonne cow might have an issue being milked (yet somehow not crushing the farmer to death trying to escape?) (also, I've lactated before, I can guarantee the cow doesn't give a fart).
But in the end, it's plastic fur on a plastic toy. No reason to believe that space marines with power armour couldn't have effective faux fur. Or is faux fur verboten now too?
Well faux fur, if from Asia, China in particular, would most likely be cat or dog. Interesting that you condemn Peta, then claim them to be an authority
(referring to your use of (verboten)
, but it is good to have a different perspective. I don't take issue with them because as unethical as you "claim" them to be, all those "research" facilities", fur farms and dairy farms aren't terribly ethical either. Sometimes you have to get muddy when others play in the mud. Especially within the research industry, the abuses within it are ridiculous and unnecessary.If you're invested in the truth, do some research, what goes on is surprising, did you know that many products that are tested to be safe, proven to be safe, without animal testing, have to be tested on animals if they want to be sold in China..... It isn't about finding cures or making products safe so much anymore as it is about making billions of dollars. If the average Joe knew just how much money was wasted on pointless research and grants abused by "so called "scientists", they'd be shocked and btw, it's highly doubtful that any cow, now a days, would have an opportunity to "crush" a farmer. Since most milk drunk, is produced by cows that are "machine" farmed. They have little contact with human beings, that I can assure you.It is far more likely for a cow to be injured, freeze to death or suffer in other ways, either while being "farmed" or while transported, on it's way to slaughter. As far as the Inuit and Indigenous people, who said anyone was asking them to become vegans? This thread was about fur.
No matter what stance a person takes, there will be arguments to support either belief, pro fur or against fur, and there will always be those who take sides. But to condemn one because of unethical practices is hypocritical, when the other side is just as unethical, but because of $$ and government control, it can mask it's uses and practices in ways to fool the general public into believing their research is ethical and needed. Either way, shouldn't we all want a more humane, compassionate existence, and do what we can to ensure that? Isn't the core of humanity, compassion?
Traditions and millennia practices like everything, have to evolve with changing times and a changing planet. If tradition, as you claim, proved that fur was warmer then why aren't those who work in areas of the globe with frigid temperatures wearing it, most choose other fabrics
What we as "white people" did to survive thousands or even hundreds of years ago, we can't do today, in many instances, as the planet wouldn't sustain those practices and people evolve. So shouldn't other "people" be expected to change their ways as well? Or do some get a pass because they're "traditions" are more important?
I'm glad your rabbit fur coat keeps you warm, people eat rabbit, so I can't have to much issue with that. Perhaps do some research when you go to buy your next one, since rabbit fur, being the cheapest, doesn't last terribly long. There are those furriers who are more ethical than others and who use the whole animal, we must think of the hungry after all
Most who work in extreme cold use wool, down and other fabrics to keep warm, it is just unpractical and unnecessary to use fur.
https://www.summitpost.org/the-science-of-warmth/359562 But farming down and wool too can have issues, lol. How about we go back to the very beginning and just go naked.......lol
