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Sad to see that Montreal is soon to join the pack of the ignorants

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Yep....any dog can attack and injure someone. (except yorkies) And if banning dogs will save even one life it will be worth it. :biggrin2:

So I guess then we should ban all breeds, by your logic. To save that one life that is :no:
 
Too bad but once you are labeled or have a bad reputation being race or religion there isn't much you can do.
 
Cristy, can you name any other breed besides them with more attacks than them?.
 
Cristy, can you name any other breed besides them with more attacks than them?.

Yes, Huskies, St.Bernards, Golden Retrievers, Grey Hounds and small terriers/terrier mixes, Pomeranians are just some of the breeds . The 90's was fraught with this type of witch hunting for Dobies, Rotties and Sheppards, now it's the pits turn. My info comes from research, personal experience, dog trainers, vets and emergency nurses. There are lots of dog biting incidences, at the very least, 10 per day, seldom, very seldom, do other breeds make news, because often they are either a loved breed, a small breed and people think it's not serious, because of the breed, "it's a one time thing", or, it didn't cause severe injury or someone didn't want it reported. Read my blog link, statistics also show(concerning pits) a majority of these offending dogs were owned by "high risk" individuals, aggressive humans, people within the criminal element. What breed wouldn't go wrong with that type of owner? Sadly pits are always the chosen breed for those who want a dog to intimidate, and sadly many dogs with the breed/s have a look that is intimidating, causing immediate judgement, ie: "if it looks mean, it must be", which is wrong. Part of the breeds problem, is some breed for this look and for nothing else, ignoring all other important traits.
Pits are tenacious, strong and very loyal, if one can, and I say if one can, because it takes an awful lot of convincing, aggressive training, cruelty actually, to get these dogs to be aggressive against humans. Why the news doesn't report more about the thousands of pits that are used as therapy dogs, I'll never understand, are those therapy pits just "freak accidents" of the breed? Also, the good deeds the breed does seldom makes news either, yet, yes, every time one injures someone, it's a headline:(
 
Yep....any dog can attack and injure someone. (except yorkies) And if banning dogs will save even one life it will be worth it. :biggrin2:

I have a teacup Yorkie. 5lbs of solid fur. And yes, he will attack if he perceives a threat to his family.
 
Thanks for opening this discussion up wider, cristycurves.

This is a subject near and dear to my heart. I have had two dobies, and a shepherd cross, and people to this day still have an innate aversion to the breed because of the breed stigma that was given to them by Hollywood and constant negative publicity since the 80s. Yet they are the gentlest and most loyal dogs. I do my best to negate the stigma by gentle introduction to people, and showing their sweet side. I also try to keep my dogs appearance as natural as possible, (i.e. no cropped ears because they are not working dogs and don't need the surgery), and it helps because their facial expressions are way more natural then, and it relaxes people more when they don't see pointed ears, but something long and floppy, instead of pointed and aggressively upright all the time.

I've known many friends and family with pit bulls, and they are the same. It takes a lot to make a Pitty snap, but when they do they can be dangerous. But that's true for every dog out there.

Even the little dogs can cause damage if they bite you in the right place. I had a friend who had his achilles tendon torn from a small dog bite. They just don't get the stigma because what's cute when a 5 or 10 lb dog does it can be pretty scary when a 60+lb does it. I've experienced and recognise this psychological human reaction first hand as I've had small and large dogs at the same time.

Breed stigmatising and banning does not help the situation. Dog attacks are almost always the result of people, either the victim or the owner, doing bad things to dogs and the dog finally lashing out. If you were constantly beaten or abused, or traumatized, we should not judge you for finally lashing out.

Having said that, some breeds are more challenging to keep, and require patience, experience, and a desire to ensure the breed is seen in a more positive light. I hate when people keep a dog because they think it makes them tough, or because they want a vicious breed. It only makes the stigma worse, and ends up hurting all dogs and dog owners in the long run because that becomes the generalization/stereo type of specific breeds and dog owners in general. I think we should focus on better screening of dog owners to ensure that they are not getting a breed that clashes with their personality, or intentions.
 
we should all be up in arms about this the offending dog that killed that women in Montreal wasn't even a pitbull, dna tests were done, yet they've still imposed a ban, now every dog in shelters throughout Montreal that is or resembles a pit, is a pitbull or amstaff is ordered to be killed in days and any vet that refuses has to recommend another who will kill!! This is just so very wrong!!

This bylaw comes after a Montreal woman was tragically killed by a dog this summer — a dog that was allegedly a pit bull. Montreal Mayor Denis Coderre was quick to talk publicly about the dangers of pit bulls.Even though CBC news reported the DNA test for the dog that killed the woman revealed it was not a pit bull, Coderre pursued the ban.

Way to go you idiot MAYOR Denis Coderre!!!!

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/breed...-out-of-the-case-for-a-pit-bull-ban-1.3009859
 
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