Sex workers rally against proposed prostitution legislation

[JustRiley]

https://globalnews.ca/news/1394464/sex-workers-rally-against-proposed-prostitution-legislation/

https://www.torontosun.com/2014/06/14/toronto-sex-workers-protest-new-prostitution-legislation

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/sex-w...to-protest-prostitution-legislation-1.1869002

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20..._in_toronto_against_proposed_legislation.html

 

[Coke]

You reckon this will help?.


TORONTO - Sex-work advocates briefly clogged a downtown Toronto intersection Saturday in protest of recently proposed federal legislation that would put new prohibitions on prostitution Canada.

Around 100 people grabbed small red umbrellas and played dead on the road at Sherbourne St. and Gerrard St. E., blocking traffic in all four directions for about 15 minutes in a call for the tearing up of Bill C36, recently proposed legislation that would make it illegal to buy sex, sell sex in a public place where minors may be present, advertise sexual services, and profit from the sex trade.

The woman known as Jane Doe, a rape victim who once sued police for not warning her community of a sex predator, is now a women’s rights activist. She called the bill a potential step backwards following the Supreme Court of Canada striking down key prostitution laws already in the Criminal Code.
“Prior legislation struck down ... it’s brought it back, and it has made it worse than it was before,” said Doe, who particularly opposes the idea of sex workers not being able to advertise.

This would mean potential danger, as prostitutes wouldn’t be able to screen potential clients through conversations when Johns contact them.
Bill C36 is being seen as the response of Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s governent to the December Supreme Court ruling that deemed some of the country’s prostitution laws unconstitutional. The country’s highest court stuck down key sections, including the prohibition of brothels, living off the avails of prostitution, and prostitutes communicating with clients.

“Flojo” was among those gathered at the intersection Saturday. Originally from Nova Scotia, the 52-year-old began selling sex to survive at 13 after running away from an abusive foster family. Flojo has been attacked a handful of times over her career.
If Bill C-36 becomes a reality, she said, the world’s oldest profession will be driven even deeper into the shadows.

“We want to be protected ... We don’t want police to stop us from doing what we do to survive,” said Flojo, who maintains an apartment in the city and is a mother to eight and a grandmother to 10.

 

[DannyDeVito]

Nope, again all should stop being so paranoid about this.


Trust me it will never become a law.


You reckon this will help?.

 

[Jasper]

Good on the sex workers for getting attention to this awful bill. :good:

They unanimously think it's dangerous yet the whole point of the new law was to protect them. Why weren't they consulted?
:unknw:

 

[Carpenter]

Good luck as you will need it,

 

[McGuinty]

I doubt they will listen to only a few.


Dozens of demonstrators gathered around red umbrellas -

 

[Baz]

Nope, again all should stop being so paranoid about this.


Trust me it will never become a law.


You reckon this will help?.

You are wrong, the prosecution and jailing of the clients will come into law. It maybe challenged in the future but many will be caught up in the snare. I'd reassess if it's really worth it or perhaps looking for a monogamous relationship is the way of the future.

 

[papasmerf]

You are wrong, the prosecution and jailing of the clients will come into law. It maybe challenged in the future but many will be caught up in the snare. I'd reassess if it's really worth it or perhaps looking for a monogamous relationship is the way of the future.

Bout 100 years ago the US decided that no one would be allowed to drink.
A law that made the Kennedy's rich and a political powerhouse.
And made another criminal powerful, Al Capone.

Canada enjoyed a great opportunity to sell brand name liquor at a profit to rum runners.

What I am saying is the law did little to affect the use of liquor.

 

[Baz]

Papasmerf, I never said this law would stop prostitution. I don't believe it can ever be eradicated but it can be limited to its demand therefore curbing the supply to some extent. My own point of view is and has changed since mingling among most of you is that if it is solely by choice it is not and should not be a Government's business but the fact remains if this law passes many charges will be laid thus lives ruined.

 

[papasmerf]

Papasmerf, I never said this law would stop prostitution. I don't believe it can ever be eradicated but it can be limited to its demand therefore curbing the supply to some extent. My own point of view is and has changed since mingling among most of you is that if it is solely by choice it is not and should not be a Government's business but the fact remains if this law passes many charges will be laid thus lives ruined.

Lots of laws against it down here.......Yet it thrives.

The posting the names and photos of those arrested before conviction is a violation of the the 6th and 14th Amendments and questionable under the 4th.

Public officials do it with impunity because of the stigma attached to a public trial and most will plead it out to a lesser charge thus making them guilty.

 

[Baz]

Lots of laws against it down here.......Yet it thrives.

The posting the names and photos of those arrested before conviction is a violation of the the 6th and 14th Amendments and questionable under the 4th.

Public officials do it with impunity because of the stigma attached to a public trial and most will plead it out to a lesser charge thus making them guilty.

If you are correct about the violations of the amendments why would not some of the lawyers put up a fight? Once publicized the secret is out therefore I would think fighting back and punishing the accusers would be the logical step? If this is true the same may happen here in Canada??

 

[papasmerf]

If you are correct about the violations of the amendments why would not some of the lawyers put up a fight? Once publicized the secret is out therefore I would think fighting back and punishing the accusers would be the logical step? If this is true the same may happen here in Canada??

the reason people do not fight is they plead it out to a lesser charge and pay a fine........it all goes away and they do not risk jail time. Not sure if they can be labeled a sex offender.

But in any event the public has a short memory and if they are questioned about it they say the charges were reduced to disturbing the peace or trespass.

 

[Baz]

I cannot see once one looses their family, their career because of the publication not being hell bent on destroying their accusers.

 

[papasmerf]

I cannot see once one looses their family, their career because of the publication not being hell bent on destroying their accusers.

not everyone looses everything

I am not a lawyer I expect they can only address the Constitutional issues if they have their plea set aside.

 

[-b]

Unfortunately something with happen when Rape Increase .....I hate to say this....
There are some people who can understand change and then there are those who it has to happen to them or their family members before they can understand the situation....

This Law is trying to Covering up what some people do not want to see....or know ....hear ...This is not a solution...not even a bandage...it an Assault on Women....The Right of Choice..over their Bodies..and How they have decided to use their bodies...
Sound Like Pro Life or Choice....doesn't it....And to Compare the Two Is what is needed...
The Choice to Use Out Bodies How We Would Like.....

Well it just a Thought .....There is nothing Wrong in Charging for Sex...What is Wrong is Having People Say No ....What is Wrong is having the People saying No using the Women for Sex....What is Wrong is like anything else in the World there are Bad Elements...Just as there are Bad Elements to Selling Military Arms to Countries to Fight each other...Just as there are Bad Elements to the Selling of Organs......

Mckay is Right it how it worded but he is Wrong in the Basic Understanding and Rights of a Woman and Her Rights to Her Body.......

 

[Romance]

I'm a simple minded man, not familiar with legal terms and can't figure this out. As everybody has been saying, this logic does not seem right: If prostitution is legal, then buying the service can't be made illegal. It's like making driving a cab for living legal but hiring a cab to ride illegal...it's plain stupid ...or maybe I'm not as smart as conservative fellows are...

What will happen to the agencies if things go the way conservatives like?

 

[User-E]

I'm a simple minded man, not familiar with legal terms and can't figure this out. As everybody has been saying, this logic does not seem right: If prostitution is legal, then buying the service can't be made illegal. It's like making driving a cab for living legal but hiring a cab to ride illegal...it's plain stupid ...or maybe I'm not as smart as conservative fellows are...

What will happen to the agencies if things go the way conservatives like?

No matter whether we are simple or bright - it doesn't make sense to any of us. Making it illegal to advertise a legal business is sheer stupidity.

 

[Chunky]

No matter whether we are simple or bright - it doesn't make sense to any of us. Making it illegal to advertise a legal business is sheer stupidity.

We need to join these rallies and they should be during the week on the very doors of the law makers!

 

[Wanker]

What will happen to the agencies if things go the way conservatives like?

I am sure they already have a plan. Hope then can share it with us though.

 

[Wazzap]

I am sure they already have a plan. Hope then can share it with us though.

Bump.