Should obese people be allowed to start work later to avoid anxiety during rush hour

[Hitter]

Obese people should start work later to ease rush-hour anxiety, government adviser says | The Independent

 

[nntsci]

what the hell... no... (speaking as one)... what we need to get off our asses and walk, jog, run for the buss, bike and more generally make rush hour a work out. (I walk instead of taking the subway).

best way to deal with anxiety is exercise

 

[ROBERTSON]

If the person is obese for legitimate medical reasons, why not consider it on an individual basis.

But not for those who are just irresponsible, lazy ass, losers, and that includes those who claim to have the "obese disease".

Otherwise, just more bull shit.

Why not for people who got drunk the night before, and have a roaring hangover, makes just as much sense.

On a plus side, all that anxiety from being centering out, might burn some calories, for those who would benefit from that.

 

[papasmerf]

Sure why not?
Hell flex start for everyone.
Especially Doctors and Surgons

 

[ROBERTSON]

Sure why not?
Hell flex start for everyone.
Especially Doctors and Surgons

Agreed, but I think we should add fireman, ambulance drivers, cops, airline pilots, just to name a few.

 

[papasmerf]

Agreed, but I think we should add fireman, ambulance drivers, cops, airline pilots, just to name a few.

Finally we agree on something

 

[Winslow]

what the hell... no... (speaking as one)... what we need to get off our asses and walk, jog, run for the buss, bike and more generally make rush hour a work out. (I walk instead of taking the subway).

best way to deal with anxiety is exercise

I totally agree with you. Obese people, should not get any special treatment. IMHO, it's possible for anyone to lose weight.

However, IMHO, people who are in wheelchairs, or have some mental type of learning disability, should be given some special work place accommodations!! As usual, just my opinion!!

 

[Jessica Rain]

WTF does obesiety have to do with anxiety in rush hour. I get anxiety. I get obesity. I don't get the link between the two.

Anyway, my opinion is known on this. I don't agree with special accommodations for those with obesiety. I just don't.

Now those with anxiety that truly suffer, as it is a mental illness, and one I know very well, I would love to see employers be more flexible with regards to hours, breaks, or just anything that relates to needed support.

Same with those suffering Bi-Polar. Sadly I know a few employers who love to take advantage of a person manic phases. Letting them work all hours of the day and night, but when they crash or the depressive phase hits, there is no support when the person just can't even get out of bed.

More needs to to be done in all areas for those with mental health. Having said that, you come in later, you stay later. Making things flexible does not mean making special accommodations in a way that create an unequal working environment.

 

[Winslow]

WTF does obesiety have to do with anxiety in rush hour. I get anxiety. I get obesity. I don't get the link between the two.

Anyway, my opinion is known on this. I don't agree with special accommodations for those with obesiety. I just don't.

Now those with anxiety that truly suffer, as it is a mental illness, and one I know very well, I would love to see employers be more flexible with regards to hours, breaks, or just anything that relates to needed support.

Same with those suffering Bi-Polar. Sadly I know a few employers who love to take advantage of a person manic phases. Letting them work all hours of the day and night, but when they crash or the depressive phase hits, there is no support when the person just can't even get out of bed.

More needs to to be done in all areas for those with mental health. Having said that, you come in later, you stay later. Making things flexible does not mean making special accommodations in a way that create an unequal working environment.

I totally agree with you Jessica. IMHO, there's nothing wrong with an obese persons brain. A lot of obese people, can still work a normal 8 hour day. Whereas if you have Bi-Polar or other types of "invisible disabilities," then sometimes you'll have difficulty working a normal 8 hour day. Also, often you'll have bosses, who have no clue about "invisible disabilities," so some of these bosses might fire you, from the job after the 1st day etc

 

[LadyJacklyn]

I disagreed with Jessica in the other thread because I (still) don't think that woman was asking too much, and she was doing it for the comfort of others not herself, but this time around I agree. Wth? Why would heavier people (I wont use obese because I suspect they are using it incorrectly here) need to travel at different times? It makes no sense and would only actually work to alienate them more.
Now, anxiety is different, though I still don't really see how that would help, given that somewhere like Toronto rush hour is pretty much all day.

 

[Winslow]

Obese people should start work later to ease rush-hour anxiety, government adviser says | The Independent

 

[demien3k5]

WTF does obesiety have to do with anxiety in rush hour. I get anxiety. I get obesity. I don't get the link between the two.

Japanese Subway 'Pushers'

Fat people beware!

 

[demien3k5]

Why would heavier people (I wont use obese because I suspect they are using it incorrectly here) need to travel at different times?

Maybe fat people are just 'worried' about 'fitting in' with the rest of society...Hmmmmmm

(see what I did there! LOL!) :LMAO:

 

[Winslow]

Japanese Subway 'Pushers'

Fat people beware!

LMAO

 

[Maurice Boscorelli]

Now those with anxiety that truly suffer, as it is a mental illness, and one I know very well, I would love to see employers be more flexible with regards to hours, breaks, or just anything that relates to needed support.
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Most health care professionals that I know would disagree with you on your statement. Here's an excerpt for the boards amusement.

.[h=3]''So… Is anxiety a mental illness? [/h] Research and treatment protocols have stated the answer. In short, anxiety is NOT a mental disorder that needs to have thorough treatment. Instead, it is the result of day-to-day factors that aggravate a behavior and particular ways of thinking in an individual.
This behavioral issue can be treated by implementing behavioral modifications, vigilant support and sometimes, pharmacological relaxants. People suffering from anxiety shouldn’t worry about suffering from an irreversible disease.
Anxiety is readily reversible, you just need to have the right state of mind and added encouragement to reverse it.''

 

[Jessica Rain]

Most health care professionals that I know would disagree with you on your statement. Here's an excerpt for the boards amusement.

.''So… Is anxiety a mental illness?

Research and treatment protocols have stated the answer. In short, anxiety is NOT a mental disorder that needs to have thorough treatment. Instead, it is the result of day-to-day factors that aggravate a behavior and particular ways of thinking in an individual.
This behavioral issue can be treated by implementing behavioral modifications, vigilant support and sometimes, pharmacological relaxants. People suffering from anxiety shouldn’t worry about suffering from an irreversible disease.
Anxiety is readily reversible, you just need to have the right state of mind and added encouragement to reverse it.''

Anxiety Disorders: Types, Causes, Symptoms, Diagnosis, Treatment

Anxiety disorders are different, though. They are a group of mental illnesses, and the distress they cause can keep you from carrying on with your life normally.

The site and quoted section above would say differently. I would say sufferers would say differently and I think those on medication for it would say differently.

I will leave this link as well and people read the symptoms, the affects on the brain and physically to the body, and then maybe they can decide if the power of the mental mind that causes physical symptoms, is a mental health disorder or not.

Is Anxiety Psychological or Physical? | Psychology Today

Not that this is something I personally feel like debating. Please feel free to believe what you wish and I will do so as well.

 

[ROBERTSON]

I caught the obese disease from my neighbour

I caught the obese disease from my neighbour

This is not complicated here people.

The obese in question, the ones who do not have a legit medical issue, are anxious because of their appearance, which they alone are responsible for, NOT because they have some imagined mental malady.

 

[nntsci]

WTF does obesiety have to do with anxiety in rush hour. I get anxiety. I get obesity. I don't get the link between the two.

Anyway, my opinion is known on this. I don't agree with special accommodations for those with obesiety. I just don't.

Now those with anxiety that truly suffer, as it is a mental illness, and one I know very well, I would love to see employers be more flexible with regards to hours, breaks, or just anything that relates to needed support.

Same with those suffering Bi-Polar. Sadly I know a few employers who love to take advantage of a person manic phases. Letting them work all hours of the day and night, but when they crash or the depressive phase hits, there is no support when the person just can't even get out of bed.

More needs to to be done in all areas for those with mental health. Having said that, you come in later, you stay later. Making things flexible does not mean making special accommodations in a way that create an unequal working environment.

The link is that a lot of obesity is the result of poor coping skills in dealing with stress... people eat, or take drug or drink alcohol as a way of coping with stress...

but a better solution to deal with stress is to exercise...

 

[nntsci]

Toronto rush hour is pretty much all day.

No... its not all day... the congestion on roads and in subways peaks from about 7:30 to 9, and from 4:30 to 6:30... during the day I can get into downtown Toronto in 35 minutes driving or in an empty GO train or half filled subway... I know this cause I've done it on numerous occassions.

 

[Dier]

How about this.....

Let's turn it around and ignore the personal issues of race, creed, color, health, etc.

An employer needs someone to do a job. They'll state what conditions go with that job (ie. hours to be worked, tasks to be completed, conditions in which that work is done, etc.). Now, either a person can do that job or not. If they cannot, so be it. They need to find another job. If they can do the job and accept the conditions, then that's it. Do the tasks and you get to keep the job. If at some point, you can no longer complete the tasks, don't be surprised if you lose the job.

So if someone is too fat, too anxious, too weak, too uneducated, too shy, too loud, too whatever, then they don't get the job or they eventually lose the job. It's not racism, misogyny, or any other bias than that the employer needs the tasks completed and if the employee can't complete them, they have to go. You wouldn't keep paying for a plumber to come to your house if he could never fully fix the plumbing issue. You wouldn't keep going to an SP that didn't take care of your needs.

Why all of this "feeling" that people who cannot do something (for whatever reason) should be allowed to keep the job of doing that something. Why force employers to pay people who cannot do the tasks that are needed within the conditions that exist? It's not evil or greed....if the business doesn't get its tasks completed, it goes out of business. If it goes out of business, then others lose jobs, capital is lost, tax revenues go down, etc. All of this because someone's feelings might get hurt if they can't do a task and are actually told that they can't do the task.

Yup but if they belong to a union all common sense is thrown out the window.