Slutwalk Toronto

[Maurice Boscorelli]

Any guess' on how many will actually do the walk.

I'm going the over/under being 100.

 

[SillyGirl]

Any guess' on how many will actually do the walk.

I'm going the over/under being 100.

Don't they train cops not to say stuff like that?

They really should. There are enough reasons to not bother reporting a rape without the cops adding more.

 

[tboy]

Oh, Bosco had to go and bring THIS topic up again ......

As for the number, I'd say it's either going to be huge, or extremely anti-climatic. So I'll say over 300, or under 50. Plus not a one would be what we'd classify as a "slut" .....

 

[SmkngPopeye]

classify as a "slut" .....

I am a male slut (for females only) and proud of it .

 

[BEER]

Don't they train cops not to say stuff like that?

They really should. There are enough reasons to not bother reporting a rape without the cops adding more.

One cop screwed up not cops and was reprimanded . Now they want to make a big deal out of it.

 

[tboy]

One cop screwed up not cops and was reprimanded . Now they want to make a big deal out of it.

of course, why not? I mean, if one woman thinks twice about "dressing down" and putting herself in danger, then it's well worth it...(but I don't think that's the message they are trying to get across).

(I know it's not the same thing but this whole issue reminds me of a time I was working in Montreal and the leafs were playing the habs and I put on my leaf jersey and went to a local pub.....the bartender said to me: you'd better take that off in here lol)

 

[SillyGirl]

One cop screwed up not cops and was reprimanded . Now they want to make a big deal out of it.

It's good he was reprimanded.

It is a big deal when a cop says something like that...it gives the impression the cops will be looking for a reason to make the rape the woman's fault. Most victims do that just fine all by themselves.

It will be interesting to see how many do show up. I don't know that "SlutWalk" was the best choice for a name if they want the event to be taken seriously.

 

[Maurice Boscorelli]

I don't know that "SlutWalk" was the best choice for a name if they want the event to be taken seriously.

believe me there will be a lot of hidden agendas here.

 

[tboy]

It's good he was reprimanded.

It is a big deal when a cop says something like that...it gives the impression the cops will be looking for a reason to make the rape the woman's fault. Most victims do that just fine all by themselves.

It will be interesting to see how many do show up. I don't know that "SlutWalk" was the best choice for a name if they want the event to be taken seriously.

See, it all depends on your perspective. I don't think he was doing that at all. I think, like many programs for men, women, children, do, is they give some basic information on how to avoid putting oneself into dangerous situations. ie: how to avoid becoming a victim.

 

[SillyGirl]

See, it all depends on your perspective. I don't think he was doing that at all. I think, like many programs for men, women, children, do, is they give some basic information on how to avoid putting oneself into dangerous situations. ie: how to avoid becoming a victim.

Agreed...perspective is everything. I'm sure mine is quite different from yours on what it's like to be raped.

 

[tboy]

Agreed...perspective is everything. I'm sure mine is quite different from yours on what it's like to be raped.

True, but that's not what this is about.....

 

[SillyGirl]

True, but that's not what this is about.....

You were the one who said it all depends on your perspective, I was just agreeing with you on that point.

And trying to make a point of my own, which is that when cops speak on these matters they should try to keep in mind the perspective of their audience and choose their words accordingly.

 

[tboy]

You were the one who said it all depends on your perspective, I was just agreeing with you on that point.

And trying to make a point of my own, which is that when cops speak on these matters they should try to keep in mind the perspective of their audience and choose their words accordingly.

No you weren't. You changed it from what the cop said about how to dress into how it feels to be raped. Two totally different things.

As for the words that the cop chose, sometimes if one worries so much about how to say something, what needs to be said never gets spoken.

One thing you have to agree with: at least by saying what he said, it got people's attention! If one woman dresses more conservatively and avoids trouble, then all the BS was well worth it don't you agree?

 

[SillyGirl]

No you weren't. You changed it from what the cop said about how to dress into how it feels to be raped. Two totally different things.

As for the words that the cop chose, sometimes if one worries so much about how to say something, what needs to be said never gets spoken.

One thing you have to agree with: at least by saying what he said, it got people's attention! If one woman dresses more conservatively and avoids trouble, then all the BS was well worth it don't you agree?

I was saying that's how our perspectives are different. My reaction to what the cop said was totally different than yours, that's all.

I don't agree that dressing conservatively offers any protection against rape. It might cut down on other kinds of harassment, but not rape.

 

[tboy]

I was saying that's how our perspectives are different. My reaction to what the cop said was totally different than yours, that's all.

I don't agree that dressing conservatively offers any protection against rape. It might cut down on other kinds of harassment, but not rape.

Well, the cop never said and no one has ever said "dressing conservatively offers protection against rape"........

 

[Insertion]

A rapist is after control, I don't think it matters what the lady is wearing. A ladies provocative attire may make a difference in receiving cat calls and whistles. It might even make a difference walking through a group of rowdy gentlemen with the odd grope and feel but "rape" I think falls under a different category.

 

[tboy]

A rapist is after control, I don't think it matters what the lady is wearing. A ladies provocative attire may make a difference in receiving cat calls and whistles. It might even make a difference walking through a group of rowdy gentlemen with the odd grope and feel but "rape" I think falls under a different category.

I believe that's in the same category as "rape" as it is considered sexual assault. Hence why the cop stated ".....to avoid being victimized"......

 

[Insertion]

I believe that's in the same category as "rape" as it is considered sexual assault. Hence why the cop stated ".....to avoid being victimized"......

You are correct it is a sexual assault and can lead to a criminal conviction. I only meant as it wasn't to the extent of being raped and penetrated, which I think is more traumatizing to the victim.

 

[tboy]

You are correct it is a sexual assault and can lead to a criminal conviction. I only meant as it wasn't to the extent of being raped and penetrated, which I think is more traumatizing to the victim.

I agree, but I think that those types of 'assaults' are included in the 'unreported' sexual assaults category that everyone is tossing around. Funny how different countries/cultures look at things differently. There are parts of the world where an ass pinch is commonplace and accepted yet here it is a crime against all womankind.

I think the main issue with the cop's statement wasn't what he said, but having the audacity to think he could tell or even suggest to a woman what to or what not to, wear. (yet I have not found a woman who even thinks twice about telling a man what to, or what not to, wear out....).

 

[Insertion]

I agree, but I think that those types of 'assaults' are included in the 'unreported' sexual assaults category that everyone is tossing around. Funny how different countries/cultures look at things differently. There are parts of the world where an ass pinch is commonplace and accepted yet here it is a crime against all womankind.

Wouldn't it be wonderful to be able to give the nicest bums a good pinch or slap without repercussion.

I think the main issue with the cop's statement wasn't what he said, but having the audacity to think he could tell or even suggest to a woman what to or what not to, wear. (yet I have not found a woman who even thinks twice about telling a man what to, or what not to, wear out

I believe the problem is the position he holds and the way he came across.