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Snowden, Do you know that we are always spied on?.

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If this happens in the USA. Surely Canada does the same thing.



* Whistleblower says decided to reveal identity
* Says acted according to his conscience
* Now fears U.S. retribution, worried about his family

By Andrew Osborn and Peter Graff

LONDON, June 9 (Reuters) - A former CIA employee working as a contractor at the U.S. National Security Agency said he was the man who had leaked details of a top secret U.S. surveillance programme, acting out of conscience to protect "basic liberties for people around the world."

Holed up in a hotel room in Hong Kong, Edward Snowden, 29, said he had thought long and hard before publicising details of an NSA programme code named PRISM, saying he had done so because he felt his country was building an unaccountable and secret espionage machine that spied on every American.

The CIA declined to comment.

Both the Washington Post and Britain's Guardian newspaper - to whom he gave the documents he had purloined - published Snowden's identity on Sunday after he sought to be identified.


"I don't want to live in a society that does these sort of things ... I do not want to live in a world where everything I do and say is recorded. That is not something I am willing to support or live under," he told the Guardian, which published a video interview with him on its website.


"The NSA has built an infrastructure that allows it to intercept almost everything. With this capability, the vast majority of human communications are automatically ingested without targeting. If I wanted to see your emails or your wife's phone, all I have to do is use intercepts. I can get your emails, passwords, phone records, credit cards," Snowdown said.

The Guardian published revelations last week that U.S. security services had monitored data about phone calls from Verizon and Internet data from large companies such as Google and Facebook.

Some legal experts were puzzled as to why Snowden fled to Hong Kong because it has an extradition treaty with the United States while mainlandChina does not.

That treaty provides that Hong Kong authorities could hold Snowden for 60 days while Washington prepares a formal extradition request.
Snowden said in the video that "Hong Kong has a strong tradition of free speech."

Douglas McNabb, a Houston lawyer who specializes in extradition, said: "Probable cause won't be hard" for the United States to cite. "This guy came out and said, 'I did it.'"

McNabb added: "His best defence would probably be that this is a political case instead of a criminal one." The treaty prohibits extradition for political cases.
Jesselyn Radack, a former U.S. Justice Department attorney who represents whistleblowers, told Reuters: "As a whistleblower myself, this is one of the most significant leakers in my lifetime and in U.S. history."

She said she hoped the case could become "a watershed moment that could change the war on whistleblowers and the broader war on information in our country."

The exposure of the secret programmes has triggered widespread debate within the United States and abroad about the vast reach of the NSA, which has expanded its surveillance dramatically in the last decade, after the Sept. 11 attacks on Washington and New York in 2001.

U.S. officials say the agency operates within the law. Some high-ranking members of Congress have indicated support for the NSA activities, while others are pushing for tougher oversight and possible changes to the law authorizing the surveillance.


Snowden's decision to reveal his identity and whereabouts lifts the lid on one of the biggest security leaks in U.S. history and escalates a story that has placed a bright light on President Barack Obama's extensive use of secret surveillance programmes.


Snowden's decision to go public also may expose him to the wrath of the U.S. authorities. The Guardian compared him to Bradley Manning, an American soldier now on trial for aiding the enemy, for passing classified military and State Department files to anti-secrecy website WikiLeaks.


SLEEPLESS NIGHTS

Snowden, who said he had left his girlfriend in Hawaii without telling her where he was going, said he knew the risk he was taking, but thought the publicity his revelations had garnered in the past few days had made it worth it.

"My primary fear is that they will come after my family, my friends, my partner. Anyone I have a relationship with," he said. "I will have to live with that for the rest of my life. I am not going to be able to communicate with them. They (the authorities) will act aggressively against anyone who has known me. That keeps me up at night."


He spoke of his willingness to give up a comfortable life in Hawaii, where he earned about $200,000 a year: "I'm willing to sacrifice all of that because I can't in good conscience allow the U.S. government to destroy privacy, internet freedom and basic liberties for people around the world with this massive surveillance machine they're secretly building."

Snowden, a former CIA technical assistant, said he had been working at the super-secret NSA as an employee of defence contractor Booz Allen Hamilton and decided to break his silence after becoming disenchanted with Obama, whom he said had continued the policies of predecessor George W. Bush.

"My sole motive is to inform the public as to that which was done in their name and that which is done against them," he said. "I understand that I will be made to suffer for my actions. I will be satisfied if the federation of secret law, unequal pardon and irresistible executive powers that rule the world that I love are revealed even for an instant."


The Guardian said Snowden had been working at the NSA for four years as a contractor for outside companies including Booz Hamilton and Dell.

Three weeks ago, he copied the secret documents at the NSA office in Hawaii and told his supervisor he needed "a couple of weeks" off for treatment for epilepsy, the paper said. On May 20 he flew to Hong Kong.

In the video interview, the bespectacled Snowdon looked relaxed and was wearing a light beard and a dark grey shirt.


He said he was ultimately hoping that Iceland, which values internet freedom, might grant him asylum.
 
seems Wanker does too

Note he is left handed

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Prim0 said:
I don't know how americans can put up with this?! There are the people that think its okay because they never do anything wrong. There are people that say the government won't actually listen to what you say on your phone calls. I don't think we should have to worry about it. I wouldn't want a police officer searching my car randomly, or have my mail opened randomly, or be followed around by a detective. The constitution is supposed to protect us from things like this and yet so many people seem to be okay with it now. I don't get it.

You should see the UK when it comes to cameras

Besides that you have no expectation of privacy in public areas

You do however have a reasonable expectation of not having your image publicly displayed without your permission
 
Nothing bothers me anymore. We can't change the laws and politicians. As they say if you cannot beat them, join them.
 
No shock, always assumed we were spied on? :-Cool/"

All those movies, TV shows, 24, Jack Bauer, Person of Interest,Enemy of the State, etc. etc. about surveillance, chatter, etc.
 
[h=1]Icelandic Legislator: I’m Ready To Help NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden Seek Asylum[/h]
 
Hate to say, but happens in Canada too.....
There are Satellites out there that can pick up
whatever they want too....

Even Beer drinking..
 
Blissful said:
Hate to say, but happens in Canada too.....

Data-collection program got green light from MacKay in 2011


Defence Minister Peter MacKay approved a secret electronic eavesdropping program that scours global telephone records and Internet data trails – including those of Canadians – for patterns of suspicious activity.

Mr. MacKay signed a ministerial directive formally renewing the government’s “metadata” surveillance program on Nov. 21, 2011, according to records obtained by The Globe and Mail. The program had been placed on a lengthy hiatus, according to the documents, after a federal watchdog agency raised concerns that it could lead to warrantless surveillance of Canadians.There is little public information about the program, which is the subject of Access to Information requests that have returned hundreds of pages of records, with many passages blacked out on grounds of national security.

It was first explicitly approved in a secret decree signed in 2005 by Bill Graham, defence minister in Paul Martin’s Liberal government.

It is illegal for most Western espionage agencies to spy on their citizens without judicial authorization. But rising fears about foreign terrorist networks, coupled with the explosion of digital communications, have shifted the mandates of secretive electronic-eavesdropping agencies that were created by military bureaucracies to spy on Soviet states during the Cold War.

The Canadian surveillance program is operated by the Communications Security Establishment Canada (CSEC), an arm of the Department of National Defence.

In recent days, disclosures of secret surveillance programs operated by the U.S. National Security Agency have set off a storm of debate. Leaked documents and accounts have described an NSA project known as PRISM that allegedly gives the agency access to data from nine U.S. Internet companies including Google and Facebook. Another leaked document describes the existence of a government program that collects the “telephony metadata” surrounding millions of phone calls placed by Americans every day, without anyone listening to the actual conversations.

In Canada, a similar sensibility – though not the same sweep – appears to have also taken root. “Metadata is information associated with a telecommunication … And not a communication,” reads a PowerPoint briefing sent to Mr. MacKay in 2011. “Current privacy protection measures are adequate,” officials said, as they sought renewal of the Canadian metadata program.

CSEC and the NSA take pains to distinguish between the contents of a communication (which is out of bounds legally, if it involves a citizen) and the surrounding metadata (which is considered in play).
Mining metadata may never reveal what is said. But phone records, Internet Protocol addresses, and other data trails can reveal who knows whom, and how well. Authorities who suck up signals on a vast scale can use the metadata to create pictures of social networks, even terrorist cells, if they armed with enough raw computing power to sift through gigantic pools of data.

In Canada, a regime of ministerial directives – decrees not scrutinized by Parliament – have authorized the broad surveillance programs. How the data is obtained has not been disclosed in the documents obtained by The Globe or in comments from CSEC.

Officials do say that CSEC “incidentally” intercepts Canadian communications, but takes pain to purge or “anonymize” such data after it is obtained. Beyond that, “metadata is used to isolate and identify foreign communications, as CSEC is prohibited by law from directing its activities at Canadians,” wrote spokesman Ryan Foreman in an e-mail to The Globe.

CSEC is subject to oversight by a watchdog agency known as the Office of the CSE Commissioner, which has given broad approval to the metadata-mining program.

Five years ago, however, Justice Charles Gonthier, a retired Supreme Court judge, raised questions about the practice, according to government records released to The Globe.

Could CSEC, he asked, be wrongly passing along information to partner agencies, such as the RCMP or CSIS? While raw intelligence is sometimes allowed to pass between these agencies, Justice Gonthier’s broad concern was that CSEC’s metadata-mining efforts could be used as an end run around lawful warrants.

He wrote in a 2008 memo that ironing out such rules was important, since they set up “the legal requirement (e.g. ministerial authorization vs. a court warrant) in cases where activities may be ‘directed at’ a Canadian.”

CSEC suspended its metadata-mining program for more than a year in 2008. The documents show that Mr. MacKay signed a new ministerial directive in 2011 to continue the surveillance under new rules – and also authorized other espionage programs, some of which have been completely censored from the Access to Information documents obtained by The Globe.


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...en-light-from-mackay-in-2011/article12444909/
 
Now we have both Canada and the USA that can monitor our
moves......

I wonder if they would let me use it to see what a few individuals are
doing.......

I need to create a list....now who should I snoop on.....Hmmmmmm

Maybe I will start with Muse then Sheik......MM and Papa to see
how they do their toes......
 
Blissful said:
Now we have both Canada and the USA that can monitor our
moves......

I wonder if they would let me use it to see what a few individuals are
doing.......

I need to create a list....now who should I snoop on.....Hmmmmmm

Maybe I will start with Muse then Sheik......MM and Papa to see
how they do their toes......

I bite my toenails if that helps
 
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