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Strippers vs Club Owners in the US

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I found this on CNN....Not sure about here.....

NEW YORK (CNNMoney)
Sonja worked as a stripper in three states for 15 years.

Like any employee, Sonja had set hours, had to be on stage at a certain time and dress a certain way. She was penalized if she missed a shift.

But like most strippers, Sonja wasn't considered an employee. That's because club owners typically classify strippers as independent contractors.
It lets bosses get away with not paying employment taxes, not complying with discrimination laws and not offering benefits such as health care or retirement plans, according to Robert Woods, a tax lawyer in San Francisco. In turn, workers do not qualify for unemployment benefits. They might also miss out on Medicare and Social Security benefits if they don't properly withhold those taxes.

It's a situation that Sonja and other strippers are increasingly challenging in court. The 37-year-old from Brockton, Mass., has won two court settlements in the last two years. She is awaiting the outcome of two more.
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As independent contractors, strippers' income comes solely from tips. Often, club owners' long list of fees take a big bite out of that too.
Hima B., a former stripper in San Francisco who is working on a documentary about strippers' labor rights, paid $5 "stage fee" for a six-hour shift when she started working in 1992. Within months, the fee jumped to $25. By the time she stopped working in 1999, she was paying $200 per shift. It's commonplace for club owners to levy such a fee.

"You should be paid to work. You shouldn't pay to work," said Hima B., who like Sonja and the other strippers in this article, asked that she be identified by her stage name.
Sonja also paid stage fees, and more -- $80 for showing up late, $25 to dance one song and $60 for a half hour in a private room. Some strippers also have to pay DJs and other overhead costs like rent.



"They're making tons of cash charging girls to work," Sonja said.
Cases like Sonja's are picking up steam. Just last month, the Kansas Supreme Court ruled that dancers at Club Orleans in Topeka were employees rather than contractual talent. It granted them the right to collect unemployment insurance.

This followed another ruling in November, when strippers at the Spearmint Rhino chain in California won a $13 million settlement in a federal court class action case that granted them employee status. The settlement amount will be divided among strippers across six states.

"We've seen a lot of great rulings like these," said Shannon Liss-Riordan, an attorney who specializes in labor cases.
In the last 10 years, Liss-Riordan has been involved in a dozen cases like Sonja's, who she represents. She has either won or reached settlements in favor of the strippers in at least half of them and the rest are still pending.
There are other professions where employees work for tips or have to pay for a spot -- like waiters and hairdressers. The difference is that these workers also earn wages.
"Strippers, on the other hand, are buying a job," said Liss-Riordan. "To have money taken away from them is a sad state of affairs."

Related: Fast food workers protest for labor rights

Some strippers have organized to fight back. Workers at The Lusty Lady, a San Francisco peep show, formed the Exotic Dancers Union in 1997. Soon after that, The Lusty Lady became fully owned and operated by its employees, who continue to vote on all business decisions.
"I get paid a little bit more than minimum wage hourly on top of my tips" said Victoria Privates, a dancer who started working at The Lusty Lady last year.
Hima B. hopes her film will inspire strippers to stand up for the kinds of rights dancers have at The Lusty Lady.
"Stripping is legal," she said. "This is a group of workers and they deserve rights."
 
I heard about this from another source and my mind started spinning. The materials facts are substantially the same up here in Canuckland.

If any one knows a dancer or MPA who wouldn't mind being a rep plaintiff in a class action, I'm sure that we could get some similar results for these poor women.....
 
RAWD said:
I heard about this from another source and my mind started spinning. The materials facts are substantially the same up here in Canuckland.

If any one knows a dancer or MPA who wouldn't mind being a rep plaintiff in a class action, I'm sure that we could get some similar results for these poor women.....

I agree, they are treated very unfairly. Most of us complain about them trying to grab $20 a song but they are being mugged by the owners who can't sell enough booze and trying to make their money off the ladies.

Restaurant owners taking a share of the waiters and waitress's tip money upsets me too.

I think it's time to start a dancers and a Waiter/Waitress union!
 
When business goes south, spa owners are known to start charge shift fees, supplies fees, slapping penalties for the slightest infractions....

The two test cases that have tried to assess MPAs as employees were both lost by the CRA/Justice lost on minor technicalities (both times because the Crown didn't understand the business and how it really works).
 
It sad in this day and age that people are being taken advantage of.....
I do agree that workers need to stand up for themselves .....

What got me was the $80 for showing up later.....
Just imagine you getting charged $80 on top of losing the money
you did not make being on time.....I think if this was any other
business the Government would have a field day....
 
rileydaniels said:
The free I hear the dancers at Remington's have to pay is ridiculous. Plus the cost of a license then having only a limited selection of clubs to work in for males in this industry it got me feeling very angry for them.

the power in balance in this industry is a hard one to swallow.

I was clicking on links and then finally had to google search the strip club article. https://money.cnn.com/2013/03/21/news/economy/stripper-labor-rights/

This is from https://licensetopimp.wordpress.com/


Let's do something about it.
 
RAWD said:
Let's do something about it.

We should the same thing happens in Toronto, as some of you may know I plan on stripping while I Am still being a SP, and the hassle of getting things in order omg $400 for a toronto stripper license plus the police background check, then I have to find a club that hasn't maxed out their black girl quota, while I watch my friend who is white, get a club to pay for her license and hire her and I get the run around.
 
rileydaniels said:
We should the same thing happens in Toronto, as some of you may know I plan on stripping while I Am still being a SP, and the hassle of getting things in order omg $400 for a toronto stripper license plus the police background check, then I have to find a club that hasn't maxed out their black girl quota, while I watch my friend who is white, get a club to pay for her license and hire her and I get the run around.

I hear features get the full nine yards but that's because the club wants them. It really is a model of supply and demand, the market forces at work and at times that's not fair to the employee.

Union leaders step up dammit!
 
I feel the Government need to step in.....

Riley that is very Racist ....I would complain......
 
Blissful said:
I feel the Government need to step in.....

Riley that is very Racist ....I would complain......

complain to who they have been doing it for decades. why would they stop now, and the stripper association doesn't do a damn thing about it.
 
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