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Every now and then I'll accept a new client and they then disregard all or some of my expected protocol. Today it is tardiness, that has been an issue. The client was to be here at 3pm and just called at 3pm to inform me that he will be here as soon as he could......lol. So, should I take the time off his hour, excuse him for his err, or......
I request all my clients, to call an hour before our meet time to solidify our date and to discuss where we will be meeting. At that time I specify *again* to be on time, to be freshly showered, discrete and any other details deemed necessary. There was no mention of him having an unexpected delay when he called, it just seems he is running on his own clock, lol.

Your opinion?
 
A penalty will smarten him up :good:, wish I could do the same for people I have to wait for. :no:
 
That's kind of douchie thing to do. It's a tough call. I would almost say, judge him on his demeanour during the session and if within the first few minutes, you don't think he has any remorse, then deduct the time off his hour or whatever.

In all the years, I've missed one appointment because of my error in the hotel; I went to the wrong one. I called her and she straightened me out but I was her last appt and she had to go do personal stuff. I cancelled the meet but she did not blacklist me thankfully as I was a repeat client. I don't I ever compensated her for it though which was bad of me. It was almost 6 years ago and I've seen her subsequent times.
 
I think it's a good idea to forgive first offenses. Maybe he had car trouble. Maybe work trouble. Maybe it was something he wasn't comfortable talking about. If his tardiness causes you to inconvenience other clients then cancel his appointment and ask him to rebook another time. And as the gentleman above mentioned, gauge his response and remorse in person. You can usually get a good feel of someone's character face to face.
 
I would expect to have the time deducted from my appointment. A nice gesture if you have the time and he is properly sincere and apologetic would be to extend the appointment by some or all of the time he was late.

On the other hand when you text the lady that you are at the hotel five minutes before the appointment.
She replies "give me a minute" and 8 or ten minutes after your scheduled time you get the room number. When does the clock start?
The original appointment time?
When you get the room number?
When you are let into the room?
 
First...if ever I've been late I add time, or deduct some of my fee, whatever makes my client happy. However I'm big on being punctual and have only been late a couple of times in all the years I've been around. This gent had no troubles, no reasons for being late, other than nerves. He was a sweetheart so I forgot about it. However this may have set a bad precedent, by allowing him to think that being late is no big deal. (and btw he arrived at 3:25)
@Beached the clock should start, imo, after you pay your date.

Thanks for all your replies:)
 
I've never had to deduct any time or fee for someone being late since I leave myself enough time to accommodate such incidents. I'm quite forgiving.

If I get no warning that they will be late, 5 mins after scheduled date time I will let them know if I don't hear from them within the next 15 mins I'm moving on with my day and will require a deposit if they wish to rebook in the future. Thankfully it's a rarity.
 
I've never had to deduct any time or fee for someone being late since I leave myself enough time to accommodate such incidents. I'm quite forgiving.

If I get no warning that they will be late, 5 mins after scheduled date time I will let them know if I don't hear from them within the next 15 mins I'm moving on with my day and will require a deposit if they wish to rebook in the future. Thankfully it's a rarity.


I've been known to pull a Fast and Furious to get to an appointment on time (hate being late). I would drive on sidewalks and through red lights to make an appointment with you Nadia....dang.
 
I've never had to deduct any time or fee for someone being late since I leave myself enough time to accommodate such incidents. I'm quite forgiving.

If I get no warning that they will be late, 5 mins after scheduled date time I will let them know if I don't hear from them within the next 15 mins I'm moving on with my day and will require a deposit if they wish to rebook in the future. Thankfully it's a rarity.

When you browse a provider's website and she describes herself as being an 'elite' courtesan, this ^^^^^ is what that means. Professional, mature, and intelligent. :good:
 
@RubberRagDoll, yes it is a rarity, and it is nice to know you're forgiving:) However deducting fees or time has nothing to do with not leaving myself enough time.Some of us simply appreciate a person being punctual and of their word. I'm very low volume, one client a day at most, usually a couple a week:) This was about the inconvenience, and thoughtlessness. If someone tells me they'll meet at a specific time, I expect them at that specific time.
 
Around 10 mins I deduct time, with 15 mins no word it's cancelled in my mind. Like many girls I use a shared space and it is not fair to make another girl wait when I have to still do laundry, shower, clean up etc after the appointment. Also, for me I also don't like to feel rushed so I plan accordingly and tardiness throws off EVERYTHING.
 
The 'domino effect' of unreliability works both ways:

Client #1 has a confirmed booking, in advance, for a specific time, say 4:00 PM, for two hours.

Johnny-come-lately with blue balls calls at 2:00 PM, to book for half an hour, with an hour's notice, and he's 20 minutes late.

The Escort fits him in, but can't adequately prepare for the other client, who ends up cancelling, because he has other commitments, and can't be delayed, just to accommodate the fellow with immediate gratification needs.

The 4:00 appointment is not interested in spending two hours with an Escort who only had an 'Italian shower' between gigs. That's why he didn't look for company on backpages or personal ads in a free entertainment paper.
 
The 'domino effect' of unreliability works both ways:

Client #1 has a confirmed booking, in advance, for a specific time, say 4:00 PM, for two hours.

Johnny-come-lately with blue balls calls at 2:00 PM, to book for half an hour, with an hour's notice, and he's 20 minutes late.

The Escort fits him in, but can't adequately prepare for the other client, who ends up cancelling, because he has other commitments, and can't be delayed, just to accommodate the fellow with immediate gratification needs.

The 4:00 appointment is not interested in spending two hours with an Escort who only had an 'Italian shower' between gigs. That's why he didn't look for company on backpages or personal ads in a free entertainment paper.

That scenario I'd never allow to happen, and imo, all confirmed appts are priority and should never be compromised.However I also realize that some sp's need to make as much as they can per day/week, so for some fitting someone in is necessary. I'd also like to point out BP has lots of great and professional girls advertising there. A site doesn't determine an escorts professionalism or validity, she or he does:)
 
That scenario I'd never allow to happen, and imo, all confirmed appts are priority and should never be compromised.However I also realize that some sp's need to make as much as they can per day/week, so for some fitting someone in is necessary. I'd also like to point out BP has lots of great and professional girls advertising there. A site doesn't determine an escorts professionalism or validity, she or he does:)

Ummm.... Cristy, this is an hypothetical scenario decribed above. You're apologizing on behalf of an imaginary person, and vouching for the hygiene of backpages Escorts, whether or not you know them. That's so....Canadian.

In the example above, the Escort had a two hour gig in the bag, but lost it, because she also tried to add another half hour gig, with someone of unproven reliability. Johnny blue balls is the troll, the Escort was greedy, and the guy who booked the two hour appointment, in advance, is the victim, but the Escort also loses out. For me, it's a huge turnoff if an Escort delays my appointment because some last minute Bozo interrupts her schedule. I think those guys do that, on purpose, perhaps to generate bad reviews, because they're working on behalf of one of her rivals.

In this example, however, the working girl is not sympathetic, to the 4:00 appointment guy. He showed her props, by booking extra time. She dissed him, by giving priority to the hit-and-run bandit. The half hour guy got her fresh makeup and hygiene. The two hour guy would have gotten racoon-eye mascara, little white lies about an ill family member, and a half-assed session.

This is a big reason why I prefer the more mature Escorts, not the GILF type, but advertising as age 35+, as opposed to the flavour of the month, 'here today, gone tomorrow' types. There aren't a high percentage of younger Escorts that would interest me, just based on mindset / priorities / maturity, etc. Even a woman who actually is 35, is still a bit of a kid to me, in that I was in college before she was born. Not all young women are completely self absorbed, 100 % of the time, but among those who aren't, most don't work in 'The Industry'.
 
Ummm.... Cristy, this is an hypothetical scenario decribed above. You're apologizing on behalf of an imaginary person, and vouching for the hygiene of backpages Escorts, whether or not you know them. That's so....Canadian.

In the example above, the Escort had a two hour gig in the bag, but lost it, because she also tried to add another half hour gig, with someone of unproven reliability. Johnny blue balls is the troll, the Escort was greedy, and the guy who booked the two hour appointment, in advance, is the victim, but the Escort also loses out. For me, it's a huge turnoff if an Escort delays my appointment because some last minute Bozo interrupts her schedule. I think those guys do that, on purpose, perhaps to generate bad reviews, because they're working on behalf of one of her rivals.

In this example, however, the working girl is not sympathetic, to the 4:00 appointment guy. He showed her props, by booking extra time. She dissed him, by giving priority to the hit-and-run bandit. The half hour guy got her fresh makeup and hygiene. The two hour guy would have gotten racoon-eye mascara, little white lies about an ill family member, and a half-assed session.

This is a big reason why I prefer the more mature Escorts, not the GILF type, but advertising as age 35+, as opposed to the flavour of the month, 'here today, gone tomorrow' types. There aren't a high percentage of younger Escorts that would interest me, just based on mindset / priorities / maturity, etc. Even a woman who actually is 35, is still a bit of a kid to me, in that I was in college before she was born. Not all young women are completely self absorbed, 100 % of the time, but among those who aren't, most don't work in 'The Industry'.

Lol, I realize you were being hypothetical since as far as I know you aren't an escort, nor were you retelling an incident had by an escort you knew, that I'm sure, you would have indicated:) If you felt I was vouching for the hygiene of backpages, then weren't you vouching for them as well, by indicating that those who advertise there weren't hygienic?
I wasn't vouching for BP but for the many escorts who advertise there. I don't appreciate anyone who lumps us all together, or assumes simply because someone advertises somewhere they're then of a particular quality. In this day and age, and I suppose it may be dependent on the city, if an escort didn't advertise there(BP) she'd be missing a lot of business. Great clients look at lots of sites for a great escort, in my city, Backpages is the leader:)
 
cristycurves said:
Lol, I realize you were being hypothetical since as far as I know you aren't an escort, nor were you retelling an incident had by an escort you knew, that I'm sure, you would have indicated:) If you felt I was vouching for the hygiene of backpages, then weren't you vouching for them as well, by indicating that those who advertise there weren't hygienic?
I wasn't vouching for BP but for the many escorts who advertise there. I don't appreciate anyone who lumps us all together, or assumes simply because someone advertises somewhere they're then of a particular quality. In this day and age, and I suppose it may be dependent on the city, if an escort didn't advertise there(BP) she'd be missing a lot of business. Great clients look at lots of sites for a great escort, in my city, Backpages is the leader:)

Cristy, I am speaking from experience here, without naming names.

I'm the kind of guy who books a session several days in advance, rather than on the 'sperm of the moment basis', when I have morning wood. I've never missed a confirmed appointment, but I have been late, 5-10 minutes, many times. My attitude is that 'my session' should begin at the time I stated I wanted it to, and that applies, if the lady is available, on time. I let the lady tell me when the time has expired.

As a series of percentages, from the past thirty years, with various methods of booking an appointment, these are my personal experiences:

1) I show up, session is cancelled, for any reason: 15%

2) I show up, session is delayed by one-half hour, or less: 15%

3) I show up, time is truncated, for any of sundry reasons: 10%

4) I show up, bait and switch, or inaccurate description: 20%

5) I show up, Escort's hygiene is compromised, by scenario described elsewhere in this thread: 5%

6) Other: 35%

Keep in mind, these involve a number of methods for selecting companionship, and obviously few, if any, of the providers would have been active during that entire period, but I'm sure a lot of guys would have similar experiences.

As for Backpages, I use that term generically, as with the digital version of the ads in the back of The Village Voice in NYC, Now in Toronto, or whatever the local free entertainment newspaper is in your area. I don't do my research there, among the 'fly by night' ads, with images taken from tinyurl, or someone sitting in a cheap motel with a bag of wigs, depending on whether the guy was calling for the blonde, brunette, or redhead.

The weirdest session I ever had was with an East Indian lady, with 'pencil eraser' nipples, who had to switch hotels, just after I arrived. She got a call on her cell phone, from her mother, they spoke in some dialect, and at one point, she hid the phone for a second, looked at me, and said to me: "She wants to speak to you". Her mother actually said a whole lot of things in a short time, but I didn't understand any of it. We parted, and resumed somewhere else about half an hour later, but even though she gave a great BJ, I didn't repeat.

I'm sure you would agree, Cristy, that a significant percentage of ladies who chose this profession do so because they are not sufficiently reliable, in terms of time, to earn a decent wage, without being self employed. In that sense, they have a lot in common with the kind of woman who owns a boutique store that doesn't open before 11:00 AM at the earliest, sometimes later.

There is, in fact, an establishment like that, literally a stone's throw from where I'm living now. Some days, the place doesn't open until 3 PM, and the proprietress still shows up late. Ironically, however, she is 100% reliable, when it comes to returning borrowed items promptly, and she has a great sense of humour, and an open-minded attitude, (she very much enjoys the Viva magazines from the mid 1970's; those were 'Porn for Women', from the same creative team as Penthouse, (Bobby Guccione was the publisher; his wife Kathy Keeton was in charge of editorial for all of the Penthouse stable of mags).

Kathy's vision of Penthouse was like 'NC-17' films, so they were risque in the 70's-90's, without going beyond the limits of contemporary mores. Bob was more into pushing the envelope, to try to change society, rather than tread on the edge of what was acceptable.

Unfortunately, the pendulum swung back; his magazines were placed in sealed bags by distributors, many stores refused to stock the magazine, and the rise of Internet porn pretty much ended the skin mag industry, at the newsstand level.

What everyone learns with erotica and pornography is that you can't go backward: The underwear models in a Sears catalogue don't make a woody, if you see bare breasted African tribeswomen in National Geographic. Those don't work, if you see Esquire. Esquire doesn't cut it, if you see tits and ass in Playboy. Tits and ass aren't enough, if you see full frontal nudity. Full frontal nudity isn't enough, if you see simulated sex. Simulated sex isn't enough, if you see penetration.

It's the same with strip bars. Until about 1986, strippers in Ontario could only be topless. Then they could be bottomless, but no touching was allowed. Then some dancers allowed limited touching, on an ad hoc basis, for an extra fee. Then everybody allowed limited touching. Then more liberal rules applied. Then the pendulum swung back, and the strip club business died.

There was a time when very hot women would work in strip bars for a few weeks each year, often in cities where they didn't live; these were working vacations. They'd take a vacation, to earn big in the strip clubs of another city, to pay for their winter vacation, and their designer handbags/ shoes. There were limits to what they were willing to do. When rules became more liberal, women from other countries, with different moral compasses, filled the void. The best lap dancers were always the Central and South Americans, and the worst were the Eastern Europeans. After a while, they were pushed out by the agressive fat chicks, who thought their asses were worth 3-5 dollars a minute, too, and that was when I said goodbye to strip clubs forever.
 
If one is going to be late at least let the provider know and I would expect this from both sides.
 
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