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They say they're doing this to help us, I say, bullshit!

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Here's the really dangerous thing about their new approach:


Johnson is in charge of the human trafficking and exploitation unit, which until last week was known as the vice unit.

It's just one of the many recent changes that have been made in the fight against prostitution in Edmonton. The sex trade itself is also undergoing significant change as prostitutes move off the street and onto the internet.

And now police are only going after the buyers. Because of the new law, they had to change their approach.

Police admit they've had to adapt with the times, to develop new techniques to effectively target the men and women purchasing sex online.

Johnson refused to divulge details, but admitted placing dummy or decoy ads is a tactic police use.

"Well, our focus is almost entirely on the demand side of the equation," Johnson said. "We've had to adapt, to sort of reimagine how we do business and how we're going to enforce these laws. Because I would say they are a little bit more complex than they were in the past."

The name change — from vice unit to human trafficking and exploitation unit — reflects the new approach.

"We've decided to sort of modernize our image, and our name to more accurately reflect the realities of what's occurring in this line of work," Johnson said.

"You know by focusing our attention there, the ultimate goal is to reduce the amount of trafficking and victimization that's occurring."

Everything being done to arrest clients of consenting indoor workers, is now being done under the guise of stopping 'trafficking', which doesn't apply to normal consenting pay for play situations.



I was thinking about 'john school' last night and remembered back to when I first discovered review boards. I remember saying that the boards are like university for escorts. Just about everything you need to know to be safe and successful in this industry can be learned on our forums. Same goes for clients.

So, instead of sending them to john school, they should encourage first time offenders to join a review board, so they can learn how to hobby safely and responsibly. We will teach them to avoid underage and trafficked sex workers, and how to report the ones they do encounter. How do you like them apples?



This lady pisses me off. Has she done any research on online advertising or interviewed any independent indoor sex workers?

Does she realize how many women all over the world of all ages, voluntarily post images of themselves dressed in lingerie, posing in provocative positions??

If the internet is so invisible, how on earth do all these clients and sex workers find each other?


Kate Quinn, executive director of CEASE, the Centre to End All Sexual Exploitation, welcomes the decline of street prostitution in Edmonton.

"It's good because now girls can go to school without as much fear as in the past that men would harass them on the way to school," Quinn said. "Women can stand at bus stops and not experience that level of harassment."

Quinn isn't surprised sex trade workers are choosing the internet over street corners.

"All of us use the internet," Quinn said. Just like there's Amazon and eBay to buy and sell, there are sex industry buy-and-sell sites."

She recalled one woman who used to be a street prostitute who chose to go high-tech.

"She saw it as a way out of that visibility on the street," Quinn explained. "But what she didn't realize was that in order to sell on the internet, she would have to pose nearly nude and in very provocative, pornographic type of poses."

Quinn also worries about the relative invisibility of selling sex on the internet.

"It could be a 15-year-old girl who's been recruited and sold online. So I think we have to be just as concerned today about what's happening in the exploitation of vulnerable people as we were when it was a more visible exploitation on the street. It's just that the internet makes everything easier to buy and sell."


I'm glad HUBGFE and the red board are willing to educate their members about trafficking and underage sex workers. :good:


Unfortunately, I recently had one board delete my posts containing Canadian law, Internet law, legal definitions and reporting sites. I guess that mod isn't interested in educating his members. I hope that doesn't eventually come back to bite him in the ass.

I am now boycotting that board and will never post there again.

I recently reported an industry forum for hosting threads endorsing hiring underage sex workers, and having sex with underage teens. They obviously haven't done anything to educate their members either.
 
Police respond to complaints from the public.
They crack down on the more visible sex workers and ignore the discreet ones.

This forces the visible sex workers to hide and make too hasty client decisions, which makes them more vulnerable instead of safer. That's not what the public wants.
 
Police respond to complaints from the public.
They crack down on the more visible sex workers and ignore the discreet ones.

This forces the visible sex workers to hide and make too hasty client decisions, which makes them more vulnerable instead of safer. That's not what the public wants.


I honestly think political motivation is behind this more than responding to complaints from the public. We have a hard time getting our educated industry members to report suspicious ads, so I highly doubt Edmonton police are responding to complaints from the public about independent indoor workers advertising online.
 
No surprise here. Just another hypocritical sexist law and law enforcement in play. It's based on perpetruating women victimhood and lack of agency. Nothing news here.

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Please indulge us while we try to educate you about arrests that are taking place across the country.

It's your ass we're trying to save here guys. You are the ones who will get arrested and put in jail if you're not careful.

A reviewer on another board mentioned that SP's have to be licensed to work in Edmonton, and was wondering how/why he could be arrested for seeing a licensed, independent lady of legal age, working indoors, engaging in consensual activities. It makes no sense.

As I've said many times before, what happens in one province could impact how LE operates in other provinces. Do Ontario clients want to fear being arrested for seeing 'trafficked' SP's every time they book an appointment? I think not.
 
Sex workers had Terri-Jean Bedford and her lawyers fighting all the way. :good:

Where are the lawyers who will take this to the highest court pro bono?
 
Sex workers had Terri-Jean Bedford and her lawyers fighting all the way. :good:

Where are the lawyers who will take this to the highest court pro bono?


Some of them are here Pivot Legal Society and I imagine groups like Maggie's and Stella know of others that are working behind the scenes. Chris at SexSafetySecurity continues to do research that will hopefully help shape future laws. A female lawyer joined the red board recently, so I think the legal community is paying attention to us too.


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Hi folks,

A quick update.

We have been invited to attend the round table session being held by the Department of Justice Canada to evaluate the impact of PCEPA. We will be providing a summary of the findings from the research that we conducted before, during and after the passing of Bill C36, including a breakdown of our findings to date for our current study of the ways sex workers and clients communicate - "". The information/evidence we will be presenting will be specific to how the laws have been interpreted/understood by people who pay for and provide sexual services in Canada, what impact the laws have had (before and after C36) on individual attitudes and behaviours and how the different socio-legal contexts across Canada have impacted the nature of health and safety relations between people who pay for and provide sexual services. We will also be providing a detailed analysis of how advertising of sexual services and communications between people who pay for and provide sexual services has changed since the implementation of the new laws with respect to advertisement and client-side communication. As always, the information we provide in these consultations will be IN NO WAY compromise the privacy, confidentiality and security of ANY person that has participated in any of the projects we have done over the past 15 years.
 
@ Cristy:

Blame the media, and public ignorance for the uneven application of the law.

Anytime a National television network airs a story about 'the sex trade', they ALWAYS couple that with 'guerilla video' of a 'street walker' in a run down section of some small town, or a bunch of young Asian women wearing only bed sheets, while a couple of people with sports coats over their heads are marched into a paddy wagon.

To 'Mr and Mrs Porch Person', who believe EVERYTHING they read in The Globe and Mail, or what they see on "The News", 100% of all sex trade work is street action, and exploitation of minors. This 'pairing' of news story and 'stock footage' is intentional; it influences public opinion among voters to support a specific political agenda, with the full cooperation of both the media source and the author/ reader.

For a very clear indication of exactly what I mean, watch the CTV 11:00 News sometime, when Sandy Rinaldo is the talking head; at least once or twice in every story, she will use the word 'victim', regardless of what the story is about. People who are not susceptible to this kind of manipulation rarely, if ever, watch the CTV News, unless they were watching a simulcast American 10:00 show, and hadn't changed the channel yet.

Street prostitution, however, is a MAJOR problem in big cities these days, but most people don't see it, because they're not out after sunset anymore; they're at home playing 'twitter troll, or watching the CTV News, depending on their age demographic. I see this first hand, in the neighborhood where I'm living. Young women from 'broken homes' in small towns with high unemployment flock to the 'big city', with only a napsack, containing enough essential items to last a couple of days. They're 'the modern hippies'. With naive optimism, they'll 'make it after all', just like Mary Tyler Moore, in the opening credits of her show, back in the day.

Invarably, their lack of street smarts will get them robbed of all of their money and their personal identification, and some guy their own age that they met the same day will offer to 'protect them', at a price, of course. His role models will be Rap musicians, and he will dress just like them, and learn from their lyrics. I see a hundred guys like that every day; I refer to them as 'swag-fag welfare pimps'. These guys are not unlike the lions on the Serengeti savanna, the lionesses do all the hunting, but the dominant male eats first, copulates with his pride, and repels the advances of other males, who wish to supplant him, or who are perceived to be threats to the established order.

Any time I see a taxi or a privately owned vehicle drop some young lady off in the middle of a street, then drive away quickly, it's pretty obvious what had just occurred. Lots of men are buying cheap sex from street people, before going to work, or in the middle of the night. Those same guys are probably asking for, and getting, services that NO reputable Escort would offer, and no board would allow to be discussed. This is the dark side of "The Industry" and of "The Nanny State", where young people get free new clothes whenever their old clothes are dirty, because they never learned how to do their own laundry, they can't afford to do laundry at a public laundry mat, and the education system, like The Wizard of Oz, gave them a diploma, instead of a brain. This world is what Rebecca Richardson's Hassle Free Clinic thread is all about.
 
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