Toronto councillors want $260,000 grant for Pride parade axed after police ban

[Waxed]

A good call :YMAPPLAUSE:

Toronto councillors want $260,000 grant for Pride parade axed after police ban | Toronto Star

 

[rasmus]

I would not give them a penny.

 

[Madman]

It's about time, I completely agree with pulling any grants.

 

[dragonrider99]

Agree.

 

[Thomas Crown]

BLM are nothing more than petty blackmailers. Gpa should have gotten the police to remove them from the area last year and be done with it.
Removing funding will remind them that catering to one group in an event that is supposed to all inclusive isn't acceptable

 

[Jasper]

Removing funding will remind them that catering to one group in an event that is supposed to all inclusive isn't acceptable

Yes, but wouldn't the City be catering to the police if they remove funding?

 

[papasmerf]

Yes, but wouldn't the City be catering to the police if they remove funding?

No

 

[demien3k5]

Toronto's Pride festivities deviated from its original mission a very long time ago, and has now morphed into something completely unrecognizable. Makes sense that public funding for this event be scrutinized in a much more serious way. Perhaps by doing so it would allow Pride to move back to its true root cause which still has tremendous public support (and rightfully so)

 

[Maurice Boscorelli]

finally somebody is starting to make sense.

 

[Thomas Crown]

Toronto's Pride festivities deviated from its original mission a very long time ago, and has now morphed into something completely unrecognizable. Makes sense that public funding for this event be scrutinized in a much more serious way. Perhaps by doing do it would allow Pride to move back to its true root cause which still has tremendous public support (and rightfully so)

A few years ago I asked a friend of mine if he was going to gay pride(yes he's gay) he said no we've accomplished what we set out to do. The pride parade has evolved and now includes everyone which to me is great. Its now a calibration and a giant party. kind of like Mardi gras

 

[demien3k5]

A few years ago I asked a friend of mine if he was going to gay pride(yes he's gay) he said no we've accomplished what we set out to do. The pride parade has evolved and now includes everyone which to me is great. Its now a calibration and a giant party. kind of like Mardi gras

Look, I get it but when Pride was first born, it was a mission critical investment in equality, tolerance, social development and prosperity that could simply not be ignored. Funding something like that with public money really is a no-brainer.

Now if it's devolved into nothing more than a generic celebration in the form of a giant party, and you're a city like Toronto awash in red ink, you really need to ask yourself if you can afford to be in the giant party business, especially on the taxpayers dime and when tolerance and inclusiveness are not being extended equally to all stakeholders.

That feels more like a role to be played by private finance and special interest groups if you ask me.

 

[Thomas Crown]

Look, I get it but when Pride was first born, it was a mission critical investment in equality, tolerance, social development and prosperity that could simply not be ignored. Funding something like that with public money really is a no-brainer.

Now if it's devolved into nothing more than a generic celebration in the form of a giant party, and you're a city like Toronto awash in red ink, you really need to ask yourself if you can afford to be in the giant party business, especially on the taxpayers dime and when tolerance and inclusiveness are not being extended equally to all stakeholders.

That feels more like a role to be played by private finance and special interest groups if you ask me.

It also generates about 286 million in revenue for Toronto. Not bad for a 250k investment. Also if you start bringing in special interest groups they will dictate how its run and turn it into a a for prophet event instead a celebration. The business that make money pay taxes to the city especially the hotels and restaurants. However I agree that if GPA caves into BLM then cut off the funding

 

[demien3k5]

It also generates about 286 million in revenue for Toronto. Not bad for a 250k investment. Also if you start bringing in special interest groups they will dictate how its run and turn it into a a for prophet event instead a celebration. The business that make money pay taxes to the city especially the hotels and restaurants. However I agree that if GPA caves into BLM then cut off the funding

I see your point, but I think it's important to differentiate between $286M in economic benefit to the GTA vs. $286M of direct revenue to the City of Toronto Corporation proper.

I suspect the direct revenue generated for the City for things like licenses and permits is much less than the $250K cash investment, and in the end when you factor in peripheral costs like police, fire, EMT, public transportation, insurance, and City maintenance, the City comes out a bigger loser than many people understand.

I'm not saying don't do it, but if the City is expected to absorb many of the underlying costs at the expense of taxpayers, the City then needs to at least push harder on seeing a return to Pride's core values and principles, and have a bigger say in policy compliance for the event.

 

[Thomas Crown]

I see your point, but I think it's important to differentiate between $286M in economic benefit to the GTA vs. $286M of direct revenue to the City of Toronto Corporation proper.

I suspect the direct revenue generated for the City for things like licenses and permits is much less than the $250K cash investment, and in the end when you factor in peripheral costs like police, fire, EMT, public transportation, insurance, and City maintenance, the City comes out a bigger loser than many people understand.

I'm not saying don't do it, but if the City is expected to absorb many of the underlying costs at the expense of taxpayers, the City then needs to at least push harder on seeing a return to Pride's core values and principles, and have a bigger say in policy compliance for the event.

Actually the tax revenue is 60 mil. Although I dont know what the expenditures are.

 

[demien3k5]

Actually the tax revenue is 60 mil. Although I dont know what the expenditures are.

City estimates that investment totals are about $1M all in annually, and the $60M in tax revenue isn't a City number but an estimate published by an independent research firm hired by Pride. Even so, let's say tax revenue is only $10M-$20M...that still changes the financial picture considerably. :good:

 

[Zitzita]

Who is going?.

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[Wellof]

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