Toronto Officer Killed

[tboy]

That really isn't the point....I feel the point is why waste time, energy and resources? There are plenty of people who are good, decent, hard working and contribute to society who are more deserving of the surgeons skill, the meds, the OR time, the nurses AND the hospital bed. Hell, we hear all the time about wait times for surgery and here this murdering POS waltzs in and pushes them all aside because of his stupidity.

 

[Chunky]

That really isn't the point....I feel the point is why waste time, energy and resources? There are plenty of people who are good, decent, hard working and contribute to society who are more deserving of the surgeons skill, the meds, the OR time, the nurses AND the hospital bed. Hell, we hear all the time about wait times for surgery and here this murdering POS waltzs in and pushes them all aside because of his stupidity.

I'm with you. He was caught in the act therefore there is no question of his innocence or guilt. He is guilty as charged and should not be able to breath the same air as the living.

The death sentence should be invoked whenever it's a clear and cut case; as per examples Bernardo, Clifford Olson etc......

 

[tboy]

I'm with you. He was caught in the act therefore there is no question of his innocence or guilt. He is guilty as charged and should not be able to breath the same air as the living.

The death sentence should be invoked whenever it's a clear and cut case; as per examples Bernardo, Clifford Olson etc......

You know what's coming next right? Due to his mental illness he isn't responsible for his actions.

Just like many cases in the US: he cannot be tried or convicted or executed because he is insane therefore wouldn't know why he's being punished. Who the F cares if he knows or doesn't know......

I know there's been cases where it seems like an innocent man has been executed, and jailed, therefore the death penalty should be reserved for cut and dried cases such as this. I see not one thing wrong with it.....never mind from an ethical standpoint, just purely economics. The government is crying poor at every turn.....

 

[Auggie]

That really isn't the point....I feel the point is why waste time, energy and resources? There are plenty of people who are good, decent, hard working and contribute to society who are more deserving of the surgeons skill, the meds, the OR time, the nurses AND the hospital bed. Hell, we hear all the time about wait times for surgery and here this murdering POS waltzs in and pushes them all aside because of his stupidity.

So instead of everyone having basic human rights, we say some people have more value.
That's a slippery slope, do we say a kid with Down's Syndrome is worth less than a healthy one? An actor who makes 20 million per picture is worth more than Henry Winkler?
A 60 year old woman is worth less than a 30 year old?

Who makes that decision?

 

[jumpingjackflash]

So instead of everyone having basic human rights, we say some people have more value.
That's a slippery slope, do we say a kid with Down's Syndrome is worth less than a healthy one? An actor who makes 20 million per picture is worth more than Henry Winkler?
A 60 year old woman is worth less than a 30 year old?

Who makes that decision?

I think if it were to be applied to only violent criminals caught in the act and their guilt was indisputable, I could live with it.

 

[Derek]

This is how he looks like.

This is how he looks like.





His nose bandaged and with his left arm in a sling, Richard Kachkar made a brief court appearance Friday morning on charges of first degree murder in the death of Sgt. Ryan Russell.

 

[Jawbone]

He looks like a regular shmo, guess one never knows what makes a person snap.

 

[tboy]

It is going to sound harsh, but sooner or later resources are going to be limited and we'll have to start making those decisions. For eg: china. There was a movie a long time ago about a law written that only 1 child per couple and the woman had to escape to Canada in order to save her unborn baby.

But:

So instead of everyone having basic human rights, we say some people have more value.
That's a slippery slope, do we say a kid with Down's Syndrome is worth less than a healthy one?

Yes, the kids with down's will more likely a burden on society. Now unless the healthy one becomes a career criminal. Even then I agree that ALL prisoners should be put to work in order to pay for their incarceration.

An actor who makes 20 million per picture is worth more than Henry Winkler?

That is based solely on earnings which is irrelevant in this conversation. We're not talking monetary worth, we're talking about contribution to society. Now if the 20 mill actor invested half of his earnings into research on things like, green energy, food production, etc and Henry WInkler kept all his in the bank? Then yes, the actor who makes 20 mill is worth more than HW.

A 60 year old woman is worth less than a 30 year old?

Yes, she is at the latter part of her life and will become more of a burden on society's resources more and more as she ages. The odds are that the 30 yr old will have 30 more years of productive life.

Put it in perspective: compare a 1981 camaro to a 2011 camaro. The new one is safer, better handling, better fuel economy, less polluting, more efficient, more comfortable, etc etc.

And to be perfectly blunt: if one is convicted of murder and there is 100% proof positive that they were the one who did it (caught in the act, caught on camera, unimpeachable witness) then yeah, their life IMO isn't worth a pinch of raccoon shit and I'd be more than happy to pull the lever.....

As for tweakers and crackheads roaming the streets? I say fuck em. They made their choice, no one held a gun to their head and forced the pipe into their mouth. I say ship em off to James Bay with only the clothes on their back and a hatchet.

Who makes that decision? [/QUOTE]