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Toronto's Nik Zoricic dies in tragic skicross crash

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By this 1960's thinking of some people we should send tboy's estate :smiling: a bill for scraping him off the 400 when he drops his bike.

Sorry but I have no respect for people who don't have enough humanity in them to feel something when someone passes in this fashion.

WHo said I didn't feel anything? What I didn't feel is empathy towards him.....he lived hard and died doing what he loved.........next. It's like when Whitney Houston died. Ok, I appreciated her music, and I felt sorry that she died but you just KNEW that something like this would happen to her with all the poor choices she made in life. Upset by it? Not at all. Why should we feel anything when a total stranger dies? Seriously there are literally thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people dying every second of every day. If you let yourself "feel" or get upset by a total strangers death, and admonish those who don't, then you have to take a good long hard look at yourself because you could spend your every waking minute being upset due to the shear number of deaths that occur.

Should we feel upset because they were famous? (even though I have never heard of this guy). Should we be upset because he was young(ish)? A lot younger people die more tragically than he. For eg: that young lady who was murdered by a fellow student and her boyfriend who are on trial for the murder right now. Yeah, I felt sorry for her, and her family because that really is tragic....

This reminds me of an ex of mine. We hadn't seen each other for a couple of weeks due to scheduling and had a big night planned. 5 minutes before I was to leave and go and pick her up she calls me up to cancel (not a rarity in her case). It seems someone died and she was too upset. I inquired as to who this person was. It seems a neighbour of her sister's cousin committed suicide.

I then asked her:
Did you ever meet him? No
Did you even know his name before this? No
Do you know these neighbours? No.
Did your sister know this guy? No.
Is your sister close to these neighbours because I'd been to a few backyard parties and couldn't recall the names? NO.

Wait, so you're cancelling a date with me because someone you've never met, and frankly, never even heard of died? Ummmmmmm

Needless to say, she finally came around and we did go out. During the night we spoke about it further and I said "yes, it is tragic that a young guy felt so bad that he thought suicide is the only way out but if there is really absolutely NO connection to you, why get upset about it? Life's too short"

A bit of a backstory about this YL is that she did have some emotional problems that she had to deal with and was seeing a therapist. When she went to him later that week she brought up the suicide situation and me. She told me later that her shrink said to her "he's a pretty smart guy, hang onto him. He's right. You can't go around getting worked up over all the tragedies in the world because you'd spend your whole life miserable. It's bad enough when something happens to someone you know and care about..." There was a term he used for someone who takes all the world's troubles upon themselves, but I can't remember what it is.....

Just one more thing: I have a saying that I use quite often, it is "there are worse things in life than death"......or "dying isn't the worst thing that can happen to you". If you don't get my drift then here's an explanation: what if this skiier was paralyzed? What if he was brain dead? That'd be a lot worse than dying. Same as a woman being sold into slavery and abused her entire life and being so emotionally and psychologically scarred that she'd never be sane.....there are a lot worse things that can happen to someone than death......
 
Can you perhaps explain to me what "knowing the danger" has to do with not feeling something for the guy and his family ?

How exactly are those two things related ?

How many people have died in ski-cross racing? C'mon you must know the answer since you've already decided it was only a matter of time and he should have known better.

Where do you draw the line? Not driving in traffic ? Not very macho to stay in that little cocoon all your life I'd say.

Dude I won't bother with an answer since you already know so much.

I hate repeating myself.
 
Dude I won't bother with an answer since you already know so much.

I hate repeating myself.

That is generally what people say that realize they don't have a good answer. To answer it for you, Zorcic was the first death in a competitive ski-cross race despite the sport being around for awhile.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_skiing_deaths

Still don't understand why you can't mourn for someone who died doing something risky. That's just cold.
 
That is generally what people say that realize they don't have a good answer. To answer it for you, Zorcic was the first death in a competitive ski-cross race despite the sport being around for awhile.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_skiing_deaths

Still don't understand why you can't mourn for someone who died doing something risky. That's just cold.

Now you're talking about MOURNING? Sheesh.....I can't/won't mourn for someone who died doing something risky, because, well, they took the risk, paid the price. Nothing to mourn.

But more importantly, I won't/can't mourn for a total stranger who not only I didn't know, I hadn't even heard of...........I mean, if you're mourning for this guy, you must spend every waking minute in mourning because total strangers are dying all the time....what are you, an italian mother or something?

One more thing, know what total strangers I DO mourn for? Our soldiers who die protecting our freedoms. Firefighters who die usually saving someone's life or property. Cops who die protecting us. Not someone who died playing or partaking in a S P O R T........

Also, for the record, I felt bad for Wade Belak when he lost his life.....at least with him, I had some sort of connection to. I had watched him play, watched him enjoy the game. Watched him score a goal after more than 2 seasons. Seen interviews with him. etc etc etc.
 
I have to agree with T-boy here. Its a shame that this guy died in what appears to be a dangerous sport to start with. I don't feel bad for people who die base jumping, or playing Russian Roulette either.
"Mourning" for people who have had zero to do with your life is pretty silly.
I couldn't give a rats ass about Whitney Houston either.

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Also, for the record, I felt bad for Wade Belak when he lost his life.....at least with him, I had some sort of connection to. I had watched him play, watched him enjoy the game. Watched him score a goal after more than 2 seasons. Seen interviews with him. etc etc etc.

The underground whispers on Belak are that his death was a result of auto erotica play.

This is only and I repeat only rumours floating around the GTA, so take it for what it is.

But it does male more sense than the suicide scenario when you think about it.
 
The underground whispers on Belak are that his death was a result of auto erotica play.

This is only and I repeat only rumours floating around the GTA, so take it for what it is.

But it does male more sense than the suicide scenario when you think about it.

actually, the medical report (and all others) said that he was on all kinds of prescription drugs for the pain he had from all the brawls he was involved in on the ice. He was also severely depressed that he wasn't playing the sport he loved.....

Since he's not the first to go via this means, I have a tendency to believe that story. I mean, there is a public record of his death, if someone falsified it then heads would roll don't you think? I mean, it's public record and believe me, the Sun would kill to get their hands on it if something was amiss......

I mean, he wasn't wayne gretsky or anything.....there really isn't any power to wield to induce any sort of coverup.....(btw, this is the first I've heard of the autoerotic angle).
 
actually, the medical report (and all others) said that he was on all kinds of prescription drugs for the pain he had from all the brawls he was involved in on the ice. He was also severely depressed that he wasn't playing the sport he loved.....

Since he's not the first to go via this means, I have a tendency to believe that story. I mean, there is a public record of his death, if someone falsified it then heads would roll don't you think? I mean, it's public record and believe me, the Sun would kill to get their hands on it if something was amiss......

I mean, he wasn't wayne gretsky or anything.....there really isn't any power to wield to induce any sort of coverup.....(btw, this is the first I've heard of the autoerotic angle).

The thing is ''T'' technically he still hung himself so nothing was really falsified.

Anyways we will leave this one to Oliver Stone and his imagination.

I've met people who knew Belak on to a one they had nothing but good things to say about the man.
 
Now you're talking about MOURNING? Sheesh.....I can't/won't mourn for someone who died doing something risky, because, well, they took the risk, paid the price. Nothing to mourn.

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I'm guessing that you don't expect anyone to mourn for you then. The stats show what his type of race was high risk for injuries, but over the years a low risk for death. Far lower than riding a motorcycle or having a steady diet of Big Mac's.

In any event, and I may have said this before, but its obtuse logic that one can't mourn someone who died doing something risky. The logic is goofy. Mourning is just a combo of paying respect and expressing a sadness that the guy/girl has departed. The manner in which he died has less to do with it than the manner in which he lived.

Not sure what convoluted rule book you have conjured up. Did you get it in a comic book or something?
 
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