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Lol, well this city slicker comes from a long line of farmers......part of the reason I'm pro animal
When animals are no longer considered property and gain the same status as humans, then we can discuss the ramifications of "human Status". Until then, those squawking about being "farm raised" as some sort of justification for treating animals with disregard, or less than humans, can gather and rage at us pro animal slickers @escape and I agree that your "christian belief " system is ridiculous. Believing that anything was put on this earth to "serve us" or to be "used" by us is one of the most embarrassing and ignorant, misguided statements some humans make, imo.
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Anyone who believes in God, creation and the bible believes this:
Genesis 1:26New King James Version (NKJV)
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
I'm not saying everyone has to believe the same, but if you want to know why a good portion of humanity does not believe that animals are equal to humans, this is why.
I'm not going to stop believing what God says because cristy disagrees. :wink2:
Genesis 1:26New King James Version (NKJV)
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
I'm not saying everyone has to believe the same, but if you want to know why a good portion of humanity does not believe that animals are equal to humans, this is why.
I'm not going to stop believing what God says because cristy disagrees. :wink2:
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I won't comment on animal cruelty but I will say I'm fantasizing about having a duo with Cristy and Escape. Imagine it would be like sweet and sour, oil and gas. I think it would be amazing, ok sorry......back into my own little head I go! 
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Well you have to justify the horrors we put upon other species some how
But...I think, anyone who believes in a fictitious man that pretends to be a father/son and a holy ghost all at the same time, and who follows a book and writings that have been supposedly passed down for thousands of years, and are supposedly "unchanged" , I find questionable. Believe what you must, but don't justify how we treat animals because of it.
and I wouldn't expect you to Escape, lol, quite frankly I'll expect you'll do just the opposite of what I believe, say or do
But...I think, anyone who believes in a fictitious man that pretends to be a father/son and a holy ghost all at the same time, and who follows a book and writings that have been supposedly passed down for thousands of years, and are supposedly "unchanged" , I find questionable. Believe what you must, but don't justify how we treat animals because of it.
and I wouldn't expect you to Escape, lol, quite frankly I'll expect you'll do just the opposite of what I believe, say or do
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and I wouldn't expect you to Escape, lol, quite frankly I'll expect you'll do just the opposite of what I believe, say or do
Yes, you and I are obviously very different and disagree on a lot of topics.
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Muslims believe that:
Muslims are instructed to avoid:
Using animals is permitted
The Qur'an explicitly states that animals can be used for human benefit.
It is God who provided for you all manner of livestock, that you may ride on some of them and from some you may derive your food. And other uses in them for you to satisfy your heart's desires. It is on them, as on ships, that you make your journeys.
Qur'an 40:79-80
https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/islamethics/animals_1.shtml
- all living creatures were made by Allah
- Allah loves all animals
- animals exist for the benefit of human beings
- animals must be treated with kindness and compassion
Muslims are instructed to avoid:
- treating animals cruelly
- over-working or over-loading animals
- neglecting animals
- hunting animals for sport
- hunting for food is permitted if the animals are killed humanely
- cutting the mane or tail of a horse
- animal fighting as a sport
- factory farming
Using animals is permitted
The Qur'an explicitly states that animals can be used for human benefit.
It is God who provided for you all manner of livestock, that you may ride on some of them and from some you may derive your food. And other uses in them for you to satisfy your heart's desires. It is on them, as on ships, that you make your journeys.
Qur'an 40:79-80
https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/islamethics/animals_1.shtml
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Buddhist perspective:
The Buddhist Attitude to Animal Life
Animals are said to be conscious only of the present. They live with no concern for the past or future. Likewise, little children seem to have no notion of the future. They also live in the present until their faculties of memory and imagination are developed.
Men possesses the faculty of reasoning. The gap between man and animal widens only to the extent that man develops his reasoning faculty and acts accordingly. Buddhists accept that animals not only possesses instinctive power but also, to a lesser degree, thinking power.
In some respects, animals are superior to men. Dogs have a keener sense of hearing; insects have a keener sense of smell; hawks are speedier; eagles can see a greater distance. Undoubtedly, men are wiser; but men have so much to learn from the ants and bees. Much of the animal is still in us. But we also have much more: we have the potential of spiritual development.
Buddhism cannot accept that animals were created by someone for men; if animals were created for men then it could follow that men were also created for animals since there are some animals which eat human flesh.
Buddhists are encouraged to love all living beings and not to restrict their love only to human beings. They should practise loving kindness towards every living being. The Buddha's advice is that is not right for us to take away the life of any living being since every living being has a right to exist. Animals also have fear and pain as do human beings. It is wrong to take away their lives. We should not misuse our intelligence and strength to destroy animals even though they may sometimes be a nuisance to us. Animals need our sympathy. Destroying them is not the only method to get rid of them. Every living being is contributing something to maintain this world. It is unfair for us to deprive their living rights.
In his Handbook of reason, D. Runes says:
'We can hardly speak of morals in relation to creatures we systematically devour, mostly singed but sometimes raw. There are men and women who practise horse love, dog love, cat love. But these very same people would take a deer or a calf by its neck, slit its throat, drink the blood straight away or in a pudding, and bite off the flesh. And who is to say that a horse they cherish is nobler than a deer they feed on? Indeed, there are people who eat cats, dogs and horses but would use a cow only as a work animal.'
Some cry over a little bird or goldfish that expired; others travel long distances to catch fish on a nasty hook for food or mere pleasure or shooting birds for fun. Some go into deep jungle for hunting animals as a game while others spend a lot to keep the same animals at home as their pets.
Some keep frogs to foretell the weather; others cut off their legs and fry them. Some tenderly tend birds in gilded cages; others serve them for breakfast. It is all quite confusing. One thought stands out in a world where man clubs man for gain or sheer gore, there is hardly time to ponder over his morals in relation to animals.
Every religion advises us to love our fellow humans. Some even teach us to love them more if they belong to the same religion. But Buddhism is supreme in that it teaches us to show equal care and compassion for each and every creature in the universe. The destruction of any creature represents a disturbance of the Universal Order.
The Buddha was very clear in His teachings against any form of cruelty to any living being. One day the Buddha saw a man preparing to make a animal sacrifice. On being asked why he was going to kill innocent animals, the man replied that it was because it would please the gods. The Buddha then offered Himself as the sacrifice, saying that if the life of an animal would please the gods then the life of a human being, more valuable, would please the gods even more.
Man's cruelty towards animals is another expression of his uncontrolled greed. Today we destroy animals and deprive them of their natural rights so that we can expend our environments for our convenience. But we are already beginning to pay the price for this selfish and cruel act. Our environment is threatened and if we do not take stern measures for the survival of other creatures, our own existence on this earth may not be guaranteed. It is true that the existence of certain creatures is a threat to human existence. But we never consider that human are the greatest threat to every living being on this earth and in the air whereas the existence of other creatures is a threat only to certain living beings.
Since every creature contributes something for the maintenance of the planet and atmosphere, destroying them is not the solution to overcome our disturbances. We should take other measures to maintain the balance of nature.
https://www.budsas.org/ebud/whatbudbeliev/170.htm
The Buddhist Attitude to Animal Life
Animals are said to be conscious only of the present. They live with no concern for the past or future. Likewise, little children seem to have no notion of the future. They also live in the present until their faculties of memory and imagination are developed.
Men possesses the faculty of reasoning. The gap between man and animal widens only to the extent that man develops his reasoning faculty and acts accordingly. Buddhists accept that animals not only possesses instinctive power but also, to a lesser degree, thinking power.
In some respects, animals are superior to men. Dogs have a keener sense of hearing; insects have a keener sense of smell; hawks are speedier; eagles can see a greater distance. Undoubtedly, men are wiser; but men have so much to learn from the ants and bees. Much of the animal is still in us. But we also have much more: we have the potential of spiritual development.
Buddhism cannot accept that animals were created by someone for men; if animals were created for men then it could follow that men were also created for animals since there are some animals which eat human flesh.
Buddhists are encouraged to love all living beings and not to restrict their love only to human beings. They should practise loving kindness towards every living being. The Buddha's advice is that is not right for us to take away the life of any living being since every living being has a right to exist. Animals also have fear and pain as do human beings. It is wrong to take away their lives. We should not misuse our intelligence and strength to destroy animals even though they may sometimes be a nuisance to us. Animals need our sympathy. Destroying them is not the only method to get rid of them. Every living being is contributing something to maintain this world. It is unfair for us to deprive their living rights.
In his Handbook of reason, D. Runes says:
'We can hardly speak of morals in relation to creatures we systematically devour, mostly singed but sometimes raw. There are men and women who practise horse love, dog love, cat love. But these very same people would take a deer or a calf by its neck, slit its throat, drink the blood straight away or in a pudding, and bite off the flesh. And who is to say that a horse they cherish is nobler than a deer they feed on? Indeed, there are people who eat cats, dogs and horses but would use a cow only as a work animal.'
Some cry over a little bird or goldfish that expired; others travel long distances to catch fish on a nasty hook for food or mere pleasure or shooting birds for fun. Some go into deep jungle for hunting animals as a game while others spend a lot to keep the same animals at home as their pets.
Some keep frogs to foretell the weather; others cut off their legs and fry them. Some tenderly tend birds in gilded cages; others serve them for breakfast. It is all quite confusing. One thought stands out in a world where man clubs man for gain or sheer gore, there is hardly time to ponder over his morals in relation to animals.
Every religion advises us to love our fellow humans. Some even teach us to love them more if they belong to the same religion. But Buddhism is supreme in that it teaches us to show equal care and compassion for each and every creature in the universe. The destruction of any creature represents a disturbance of the Universal Order.
The Buddha was very clear in His teachings against any form of cruelty to any living being. One day the Buddha saw a man preparing to make a animal sacrifice. On being asked why he was going to kill innocent animals, the man replied that it was because it would please the gods. The Buddha then offered Himself as the sacrifice, saying that if the life of an animal would please the gods then the life of a human being, more valuable, would please the gods even more.
Man's cruelty towards animals is another expression of his uncontrolled greed. Today we destroy animals and deprive them of their natural rights so that we can expend our environments for our convenience. But we are already beginning to pay the price for this selfish and cruel act. Our environment is threatened and if we do not take stern measures for the survival of other creatures, our own existence on this earth may not be guaranteed. It is true that the existence of certain creatures is a threat to human existence. But we never consider that human are the greatest threat to every living being on this earth and in the air whereas the existence of other creatures is a threat only to certain living beings.
Since every creature contributes something for the maintenance of the planet and atmosphere, destroying them is not the solution to overcome our disturbances. We should take other measures to maintain the balance of nature.
https://www.budsas.org/ebud/whatbudbeliev/170.htm
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Hindu perspective:
Hinduism and animals
Because Hinduism is a term that includes many different although related religious ideas, there is no clear single Hindu view on the right way to treat animals, so what follows are generalisations to which there are exceptions.
The doctrine of ahimsa leads Hindus to treat animals well:
Cows
The cow is greatly revered by Hindus and is regarded as sacred. Killing cows is banned in India and no Hindu would eat any beef product.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/hinduism/hinduethics/animal.shtml
Hinduism and animals
Because Hinduism is a term that includes many different although related religious ideas, there is no clear single Hindu view on the right way to treat animals, so what follows are generalisations to which there are exceptions.
The doctrine of ahimsa leads Hindus to treat animals well:
- Most Hindus are vegetarian
- No Hindu will eat beef
- Butchery and related jobs are restricted to people of low caste
- Most Hindus believe that non-human animals are inferior to human beings
- Cows are sacred to Hindus
- Some Hindu temples keep sacred animals
- Some Hindu gods have animal characteristics
- Ganesh has the head of an elephant
- Hanuman takes the form of a monkey
Cows
The cow is greatly revered by Hindus and is regarded as sacred. Killing cows is banned in India and no Hindu would eat any beef product.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/hinduism/hinduethics/animal.shtml
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In conclusion:
Buddhists are the only major religious group of the top 4 world religions that even come close to cristy's beliefs.
The other 94% of us do NOT believe that animals are equal to humans.
Buddhists are the only major religious group of the top 4 world religions that even come close to cristy's beliefs.
The other 94% of us do NOT believe that animals are equal to humans.
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Well Escape, you won't get those minutes back, lol. I think you need a hug Escape, don't let how I think get to deep under your skin. Your need to prove your point to me is flattering and means what? You don't know what I truly believe. Nor should you assume to know what anyone else believes. Churches, and other places of worship are full or vegans, vegetarians and others who follow a faith, but still believe all species are equal. You can follow a religion and disagree with some of it's edict. As Baz and you both have proven. You both claim to be Christian, yet you both are here on an escort forum, and both of you have either provided sex for money or sought someone for an exchange of sex for money. Neither of which is considered being Christian, if I'm not mistaken. Even so, your calculations prove who follows who, not whether or not something is right/wrong/true or false. Majority doesn't mean anything, ask Clinton, lol.
@Baz- No, I'm not afraid, not afraid of anything. I live and live fully, without worry of what will happen.
Do you not feel silly believing in stories about arks, whales, Adam and Eve, heaven, etc? If you are a follower of Christianity than you should be questioning how you live, not how I live or what I believe in.Worry about your sins and taking care of them, instead of what someone else believes. That would probably be more productive
@Baz- No, I'm not afraid, not afraid of anything. I live and live fully, without worry of what will happen.
Do you not feel silly believing in stories about arks, whales, Adam and Eve, heaven, etc? If you are a follower of Christianity than you should be questioning how you live, not how I live or what I believe in.Worry about your sins and taking care of them, instead of what someone else believes. That would probably be more productive
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Where does your core belief system come from? What scientific proof do you have that animals are equal to humans? You expect us to believe it just because you say so?
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Where or when have I ever expressed that others must think as I think? Simply because I may not understand why some think as they do, at times, doesn't mean I expect them to think as I do.
I try very hard to be understanding towards your beliefs, your way of speaking, and how you interpret this industry, your posts, etc. Yet I feel, seldom do you offer me the same accord. Quite honestly I feel it is a need of yours to constantly point out how pejorative, you think I am.
Once again, I'll answer your question and once again, you've ignored mine^ My true feelings are of no interest to anyone here, nor would expressing them be beneficial to me or anyone else, so I'll keep them at that. However I don't understand why you feel, in order for something to have merit, in order for someone to believe in something, why it needs to be "proven"or have "scientific proof" for it to be of value or have worth? That I find puzzling, especially when, we all know there is no " scientific proof" of any deity, especially a God . Also if I were to follow your train of thought towards thinking a "majority" held proof of anything, then by your conclusions, it would appear everyone other than Christians, are following the wrong religions, since by your conclusions, the majority worships Christianity/god. Although I thought Islam was the predominant religion. You better let all those people know, that they're worshiping wrong, lol
I'll share this with you tho, I believe that kindness should prevail, that human beings should not want to harm anyone or anything. That all life forms that are born, are precious and deserve to live. That those who think themselves superior to anything, are not. I believe the only thing on this earth that is truly worshipped, is the almighty dollar and sadly, it is mankind that will destroy this planet all while pointing to something else being the cause of it's ruin. That's a tidbit of my beliefs, sorry to let that slip, :wink2:
