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What Climate Change Deniers Sound Like to Normal People

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Y’know, I can rail about trillions of tons of ice melting from the poles, and how we’redumping billions of tons of CO2 in to the air every year, and how our sea levels are rising, and how 97 percent or more of climate scientists agree we’re heating up … but in the end, I suspect I won’t have nearly as big an impact on the public as simple, funny videos like this one (maybe kinda sorta NSFW):

Ha! Exactly right. Funny how a simple shift of venue makes it obvious that climate change deniers really don’t make any sense at all.

And if you’re dealing with someone who, despite the tsunami of evidence that all of this is real and our fault, then let me make one more point.


A lot of deniers say “The climate’s always changing; sometimes it’s hot and sometimes it’s cold.” If that were true, then you’d expect that if you looked at temperature records in some region over the past century or so, you’d see just as many high temperature records as low, right?

But, if global warming is happening, you’d expect to see more high temperature records than low ones in more recent times.

Guess what?

, using records in Australia. Up until 1960 they found just as many high records as low … but from then on highs outnumber lows. And in 2000–2014, record heat outnumbered record cold by 12 to 1.

Now watch the video above again. I try to be polite when I argue a point, try to maintain some civility.

But when you’re ridiculous, what you deserve is ridicule.

https://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_ast...at_deniers_sound_like_to _normal_people.html


[video]https://climatecrocks.com/2015/09/10/what-climate-deniers-sound-like-to-normal-people/[/video]
 
When Will Climate Scientists Say They Were Wrong?


Day after day, year after year, the hole that climate scientists have buried themselves in gets deeper and deeper. The longer that they wait to admit their overheated forecasts were wrong, the more they are going to harm all of science.
The story is told in a simple graph, the same one that University of Alabama’s John Christy presented to the House Committee on Natural Resources on May 15.

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The picture shows the remarkable disconnect between predicted global warming and the real world.

The red line is the 5-year running average temperature change forecast, beginning in 1979, predicted by the UN’s latest family of climate models, many of which are the handiwork of our own federal science establishment. The forecasts are for the average temperature change in the lower atmosphere, away from the confounding effects of cities, forestry, and agriculture.

The blue circles are the average lower-atmospheric temperature changes from four different analyses of global weather balloon data, and the green squares are the average of the two widely accepted analyses of satellite-sensed temperature. Both of these are thought to be pretty solid because they come from calibrated instruments.

If you look at data through 1995 the forecast appears to be doing quite well. That’s because the computer models appear to have, at least in essence, captured two periods of slight cooling.

The key word is “appear.” The computer models are tuned to account for big volcanoes that are known to induce temporary cooling in the lower atmosphere. These would be the 1982 eruption of El Chichon in Mexico, and 1992’s spectacular Mt. Pinatubo, the biggest natural explosion on earth since Alaska’s Katmai in 1912.

Since Pinatubo, the earth has been pretty quiescent, so that warming from increasing carbon dioxide should proceed unimpeded. Obviously, the spread between forecast and observed temperatures grows pretty much every year, and is now a yawning chasm.

It’s impossible, as a scientist, to look at this graph and not rage at the destruction of science that is being wreaked by the inability of climatologists to look us in the eye and say perhaps the three most important words in life: we were wrong.

https://townhall.com/columnists/pat...imate-scientists-say-they-were-wrong-n2005122
 
Wanker said:
When Will Climate Scientists Say They Were Wrong?


Day after day, year after year, the hole that climate scientists have buried themselves in gets deeper and deeper. The longer that they wait to admit their overheated forecasts were wrong, the more they are going to harm all of science.
The story is told in a simple graph, the same one that University of Alabama’s John Christy presented to the House Committee on Natural Resources on May 15.

Y8m6h3L43-472FW7AaUp2kbJK22X7ewufXq0c_X2Hp-GanbF-SVuns3RKyrCcsv1ifwNjDy4sxKFcYHwxSaCZcXFeiJUNXQWShRksR7phzzxJumtji4R0-AIMUTuAkECmzL1psmQrQbrhnIm



The picture shows the remarkable disconnect between predicted global warming and the real world.

The red line is the 5-year running average temperature change forecast, beginning in 1979, predicted by the UN’s latest family of climate models, many of which are the handiwork of our own federal science establishment. The forecasts are for the average temperature change in the lower atmosphere, away from the confounding effects of cities, forestry, and agriculture.

The blue circles are the average lower-atmospheric temperature changes from four different analyses of global weather balloon data, and the green squares are the average of the two widely accepted analyses of satellite-sensed temperature. Both of these are thought to be pretty solid because they come from calibrated instruments.

If you look at data through 1995 the forecast appears to be doing quite well. That’s because the computer models appear to have, at least in essence, captured two periods of slight cooling.

The key word is “appear.” The computer models are tuned to account for big volcanoes that are known to induce temporary cooling in the lower atmosphere. These would be the 1982 eruption of El Chichon in Mexico, and 1992’s spectacular Mt. Pinatubo, the biggest natural explosion on earth since Alaska’s Katmai in 1912.

Since Pinatubo, the earth has been pretty quiescent, so that warming from increasing carbon dioxide should proceed unimpeded. Obviously, the spread between forecast and observed temperatures grows pretty much every year, and is now a yawning chasm.

It’s impossible, as a scientist, to look at this graph and not rage at the destruction of science that is being wreaked by the inability of climatologists to look us in the eye and say perhaps the three most important words in life: we were wrong.

https://townhall.com/columnists/pat...imate-scientists-say-they-were-wrong-n2005122


Waiting for the movie.
 
People think that government can run healthcare, the Canada Pension Plan and teach our kids reading, writing and arithmatic. I think that is more insane thinking than those that deny climate change.

If you believe the government can run healthcare and provide the best healthcare at the cheapest price, why not have the government run grocery stores too?
 
MisterAsianLover said:
If you believe the government can run healthcare and provide the best healthcare at the cheapest price, why not have the government run grocery stores too?

There isn't enough money to make on it. After paying high rates for government employees plus union fees, would no be feasible.
 
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