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Rob Ford :biggrin2:
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I think it was an Admiral:wink2:
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I like my sick days.:good:
papasmerf
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On their own dime.
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I see, so if one gets sick,, they should lose their home because we've become a cruel right wing society who believe only the fit should survive, the 1%?
Thankfully we have unions to protect us against the 1% and in five days one of the cruelest right wingers is about to be on the unemployment line.
...and dont forget the work environment could cause employees to get sick as well. I have also seen many employees being hurt on the jobs due to lack of protection provided by the employers.
Of course....someone will say...dont work for the employers if you dont like it....
Of course....someone will say...dont work for the employers if you dont like it....
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next will be maternity leave, how dare women expect to be paid while off nurturing her child on the tax payer's dime:no:
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The system of mandatory sick days is a joke people just take advantage of it especially if your union or government worker
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Never heard of it.
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It's kinda ironic, now that I'm self employed and can take time off whenever I need to, I rarely get sick anymore.
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If you own your own business and you can actually afford to take any time off at all then god bless. I never could
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Wow, I agree with Primo on this, though he was much wordier than I would be.
Sick time is part of the 'benefits package', or as the employer sees it 'financial package'. The employer is essentially willing to pay $X/hour. Things like wages, medical benefits, pension, vacation time, and yes sick time too are all part of that.
As an employee, when time for collective bargaining comes, I can ask for the inclusion of sick time as an added benefit. But I also have to expect one of my other benefits will take a hit for it to be included. My employer may say yes, but in return I end up not getting any raises for the duration of the CA.
Is sick time abused? By some certainly. By others, it's not. I can use my father as an example. He was a provincial employee, yet he used his sick time only when he was hospitalized or under a doctor's care. When he retired, he had over a month's worth of sick time banked.
Now for those complaining about the absurdity of sick time, what about vacation time, employer funded pension plans, medical benefits? Aren't they just as ridiculous? Why should the employer pay someone to take time off? Why should the employer be setting money aside for when the employee retires? Why should the employer pay for an employee's medications, dental care or glasses? Shouldn't that be on the employee's dime?
As an employee who doesn't have sick time, I do have to answer the question "do I go to work sick, or do I miss a day's pay?" and the answer is usually work. Now, I work in grocery retail, so I handle your food. Doesn't that sound great? A person who's sick is handling your food. So yes, you'd better wash your produce. Not only that, I'm exposing my coworkers, managers, but also my customers to what I have. Tell me now you would have preferred me to stay home. Also, how much less productive am I?
I find it funny, my employer has signs posted up saying if your sick stay home, yet they refuse to budge on sick time, and as such have employees coming in sick on a regular basis.
Sick time is part of the 'benefits package', or as the employer sees it 'financial package'. The employer is essentially willing to pay $X/hour. Things like wages, medical benefits, pension, vacation time, and yes sick time too are all part of that.
As an employee, when time for collective bargaining comes, I can ask for the inclusion of sick time as an added benefit. But I also have to expect one of my other benefits will take a hit for it to be included. My employer may say yes, but in return I end up not getting any raises for the duration of the CA.
Is sick time abused? By some certainly. By others, it's not. I can use my father as an example. He was a provincial employee, yet he used his sick time only when he was hospitalized or under a doctor's care. When he retired, he had over a month's worth of sick time banked.
Now for those complaining about the absurdity of sick time, what about vacation time, employer funded pension plans, medical benefits? Aren't they just as ridiculous? Why should the employer pay someone to take time off? Why should the employer be setting money aside for when the employee retires? Why should the employer pay for an employee's medications, dental care or glasses? Shouldn't that be on the employee's dime?
As an employee who doesn't have sick time, I do have to answer the question "do I go to work sick, or do I miss a day's pay?" and the answer is usually work. Now, I work in grocery retail, so I handle your food. Doesn't that sound great? A person who's sick is handling your food. So yes, you'd better wash your produce. Not only that, I'm exposing my coworkers, managers, but also my customers to what I have. Tell me now you would have preferred me to stay home. Also, how much less productive am I?
I find it funny, my employer has signs posted up saying if your sick stay home, yet they refuse to budge on sick time, and as such have employees coming in sick on a regular basis.
Primo and Blank Dave presented an interesting perception. Nevertheless I enjoyed reading them. I just think it works both ways as employers need their employees and their welll being as absences and productivity can affect the bottom lines. Meanwhile employees are humans and it is impossible for them to be healthy everyday. Feeling grateful, they would appreciate their employers by staying with them or maximizing their productivity. Unfortunately like everywhere, there are some bad apples who are abusing this idealistic benefit.
