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I have been thinking about this for the past couple of months, and though I now have it figured out in my head, (I had been sitting on the fence for a while), I can not support this movement. There are several reasons why, and I'm sure many will disagree with me. Though I believe this started as a good idea, I think it has now turned into a joke. I hope you all don't mind, but sometimes I think better in point form, so that's what I'm going to do to state my case.
- I really think that most people have no idea what this protest is about, even the leades of the protest have differing opinions from what I have seen on the news. The general consensus is that 'they' are concerned with the 1% of people that have all the wealth, while the rest of us 99% are 'have not's'. This in itself I can't get behind. Take a drive through any neighborhood it the GTA, what do you see? I see houses and condos, many if not most are quite nice, new cars in the driveways, trips to Florida, food on the tables... This is the 99% have not's? What don't we have?
- The 1% of the 'have's', have most of their money tied up in investments, factories, and tangible equity that keeps the rest of us employed. Not only are they providing the jobs for us to work in, they are also taking the risk if there is a downturn in the economy. We might lose a job, they might lose the factory which employs 500 people.
-Most of the people I have seen on the news at these demonstrations have cell phones, cameras, clothes sold from Walmart, a Timmies in their hand, etc? How can I get behind a group that is against corporate America when they all have products made by corporate America?
-Hanging out in a tent city in a park fueled bu drug and alcohol use does not make a revolt, it makes a hippie gathering. Go home, wake up every morning and march in front of the businesses carrying signs and doing your chants. It is far more effective than a love in. Not to mention, other people have a right to use and enjoy the park(s) you are taking over as well. People who go to work every day, pay their taxes and live in the neighborhood.
-I HATE people who speak for me, on my behalf, without knowing my opinion and where I stand, and without my permission. I can still make a better more logical, more convincing case than most of these drug fueled idiots.
-Having worked in manufacturing most of my adult life, I understand more than most the need for competitiveness, cutting costs, and what it takes to make money in a global environment. I see the numbers every day as to how China, India, and many of the third world countries can produce for pennies what it costs hundreds of dollars for us to do. I see the factories closing, (it has happened to me a few times even), even larger I might be one of the few who actually understands why we are in a global recession. Do you want to know the answer???
Greed
But not in the way most people think.
The problem that we are having globally is that the industrialized countries have been living far beyond their means for far too long. Not just the corporations, but the governments and you and I as well. We demand the latest and greatest of everything, we want the convenience of having it now, and we want social programs which we cannot afford to pay for. In essence we are globally living on a line of credit. So... Along comes a few countries that are finally going through an industrial revolution, where people are happy to finally earn a pittance which allows them a chance for survival, and what do we in the first world countries do? We purchase from them so we can have even more shit that we don't really need. We are selling ourselves out to get more at a lower cost. The price of this is that corporations have to cut costs in any way they can in order to stay afloat. They have to cut benefits, wages, hire contract workers, increase throughput to try to keep from going under. Of course, when this happens we all scream that we need more social assistance, more EI, welfare, better benefits from the government. At whose expense? So, whose fault is it that there is this imaginary 99%, (which might someday actually be a 99%)? My answer is everyone who purchases anything they don't need, especially from a country that does it at a fraction of the cost that we can do it.
Most people just don't realize that what is happening is nothing more than a self-fulfilling prophecy.
- I really think that most people have no idea what this protest is about, even the leades of the protest have differing opinions from what I have seen on the news. The general consensus is that 'they' are concerned with the 1% of people that have all the wealth, while the rest of us 99% are 'have not's'. This in itself I can't get behind. Take a drive through any neighborhood it the GTA, what do you see? I see houses and condos, many if not most are quite nice, new cars in the driveways, trips to Florida, food on the tables... This is the 99% have not's? What don't we have?
- The 1% of the 'have's', have most of their money tied up in investments, factories, and tangible equity that keeps the rest of us employed. Not only are they providing the jobs for us to work in, they are also taking the risk if there is a downturn in the economy. We might lose a job, they might lose the factory which employs 500 people.
-Most of the people I have seen on the news at these demonstrations have cell phones, cameras, clothes sold from Walmart, a Timmies in their hand, etc? How can I get behind a group that is against corporate America when they all have products made by corporate America?
-Hanging out in a tent city in a park fueled bu drug and alcohol use does not make a revolt, it makes a hippie gathering. Go home, wake up every morning and march in front of the businesses carrying signs and doing your chants. It is far more effective than a love in. Not to mention, other people have a right to use and enjoy the park(s) you are taking over as well. People who go to work every day, pay their taxes and live in the neighborhood.
-I HATE people who speak for me, on my behalf, without knowing my opinion and where I stand, and without my permission. I can still make a better more logical, more convincing case than most of these drug fueled idiots.
-Having worked in manufacturing most of my adult life, I understand more than most the need for competitiveness, cutting costs, and what it takes to make money in a global environment. I see the numbers every day as to how China, India, and many of the third world countries can produce for pennies what it costs hundreds of dollars for us to do. I see the factories closing, (it has happened to me a few times even), even larger I might be one of the few who actually understands why we are in a global recession. Do you want to know the answer???
Greed
But not in the way most people think.
The problem that we are having globally is that the industrialized countries have been living far beyond their means for far too long. Not just the corporations, but the governments and you and I as well. We demand the latest and greatest of everything, we want the convenience of having it now, and we want social programs which we cannot afford to pay for. In essence we are globally living on a line of credit. So... Along comes a few countries that are finally going through an industrial revolution, where people are happy to finally earn a pittance which allows them a chance for survival, and what do we in the first world countries do? We purchase from them so we can have even more shit that we don't really need. We are selling ourselves out to get more at a lower cost. The price of this is that corporations have to cut costs in any way they can in order to stay afloat. They have to cut benefits, wages, hire contract workers, increase throughput to try to keep from going under. Of course, when this happens we all scream that we need more social assistance, more EI, welfare, better benefits from the government. At whose expense? So, whose fault is it that there is this imaginary 99%, (which might someday actually be a 99%)? My answer is everyone who purchases anything they don't need, especially from a country that does it at a fraction of the cost that we can do it.
Most people just don't realize that what is happening is nothing more than a self-fulfilling prophecy.
).Wind Mobile can't compete because prices are to low ? Too bad. Surely its not that he can't compete because prices are too high...lol. 
