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Arent you afraid of catching herpes?

superrexdale

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I really want to see a particular SP for the first time but whats holding me back if the fear of herpes. I read that maybe 50% of sexually active people have genital herpes and since SPs see maybe 5 different men a week (a day sometimes) there's a good chance a SP might have it. Especially since condoms don't necessarily protect against them.

Also with bbbj with a well reviewed SP what are the chances of getting a STI? A scenario I would like to present is that of a SP who does back to back bookings. Say if client A has gonorrhea and infects the SP during their session and then 15 minutes later the SP is with client B. Will client B catch something guaranteed?

Are catching herpes, gonorrhea and other STIs pretty much going to happen if you receive a bbbj from a SP?

I guess what Im getting at is there any way to alleviate the worries of catching from SPs? The one I plan on seeing is well reviewed but goes back to back bookings.
 
A few points:

1. There is no such thing as safe sex, except self-loving (ie, masturbation).
2. There are ways however to practice safer sex. Using condoms and other barriers (such as dental dams and gloves) is a good way to protect yourself from most STI.
3. Yes, you can catch an STI from getting a BBBJ (although the risk is significantly lower for the receiver than the giver), and theoretically at least, you could also catch herpes from a covered BJ (assuming that your partner is infected, has lesions in her/his mouth, and that those lesions come into contact with your uncovered skin, such as BLS). Herpes is one of those few STI which can be transmitted through skin contact alone, rather than through blood routes such as mucuous membrane and open wound. But this also means that you could catch herpes from fucking someone who is infected, even is you're wearing a condom.
 
GenevieveLajoie said:
A few points:

But this also means that you could catch herpes from fucking someone who is infected, even is you're wearing a condom.

So does that mean that SPs have a good chance of having it? Considering the amount of men they see and condoms not helping? I mean that in the most respectful way possible.
 
There isn't any method which is 100% guaranteed not to transmit when contact happens between partners.

Seeing as SP's are engaging in a high rate of sexual activity well it is safe to say that they are in a higher risk group.
 
What she sez!

What she sez!

randygirl said:
Get out of this hobby right now, and take up CROSS STITCHING.

:lol:


And of course everything Gen sez.

Get:
Twinrix shots
anti-pneumonia shot
regular flu shots

As far as your risks with SPs- stick to the QUALITY gals and you are likely at LESS risk :great:than playing the bars for "Girls Gone Wild". They are much more meticulous with general hygiene and protection than the civilians.

STAY AWAY- from druggies, man sex, sex in or SPs from Africa. (DUH!)
 
If you partake in this hobby, ALL risks should be assumed and not just for STI's.
 
Swingers At Higher STD Risk Than Prostitutes

Posted on: Thursday, 24 June 2010, 12:25 CDT
Scientists studying swingers say that they have higher rates of sexually transmitted infections (STIs) than prostitutes.
Dutch researchers said that older swingers are particularly vulnerable and yet this group is largely ignored by healthcare services.
The scientists wrote in the journal Sexually Transmitted Infections that there was a risk that swingers could act as an STI "transmission bridge to the entire population."
"Although exact estimates are unavailable, the swingers' population is probably large," wrote Anne-Marie Niekamp, who worked on the study with colleagues from Maastricht University.
The researchers analyzed the numbers of patients seeking treatment in 2007 and 2008 at three sexual health clinics in South Limburg in the Netherlands.

The clinics have recorded whether a patient is a swinger since the start of 2007, in an attempt to track infection rates among this group. Estimates say that the swinger population could include many millions across the world.
Scientists studied just under 9,000 consultations at three clinics that took place. One in nine of the patients was a swinger, with an average age of 43.
They found that combined rates of Chlamydia and gonorrhea were just over 10 percent among straight people, 14 percent among gay men, just under 5 percent in female prostitution, and 10.4 percent among swingers. Female swingers had higher infections rates than male swingers.
One in 10 older swingers had Chlamydia and about one in 20 had gonorrhea.
Chlamydia is most commonly found in women and 70 percent of cases show no symptoms. The bacterial infection leads to pelvic inflammatory disease, ectopic pregnancy and infertility. Gonorrhea is another bacterial infection that can lead to infertility if left untreated.
Niekamp said that young straight people, gay men and prostitutes were relatively easy for healthcare service to identify and target for advice and help, but swingers were generally a hidden community.
"That makes them very hard to reach," she said in a telephone interview with Reuters. "Because they are so hidden and in some ways also stigmatized, it is hard for them to come forward for STI testing and treatment."
 
superrexdale said:
So does that mean that SPs have a good chance of having it? Considering the amount of men they see and condoms not helping? I mean that in the most respectful way possible.
Well, since, as you mentioned yourself earlier in the thread, current estimates suggest that around 50% of the population is carrier of the herpes virus (which doesn't necessarily mean that they will pass it to others), I would think that there is a good chance that some SPs are carriers as well. I'm not convinced however that there are more at risk than the general population of being carrier. Based on my anectodal experience and some studies, I would actually believe that they are less likely to be carrier than the general population.

As others have mentioned, escorts (and I'm talking here of those who work in decent conditions, who aren't forced or pressured to offer certain risky services, and who are in a position to refuse to provide services to clients who display signs of unhealthy behaviours, lack of hygiene, and/or who show potential symptoms of STIs) tend to be more informed about safer sex practices and risks, and they tend to practice safer sex more rigorously than the general population. They also tend to get tested more regularly, and more thoroughly, than the general population and therefore get treated for any infections.

As I said, the above is based mostly on anecdotal evidences from my own experience and from what I have seen around me (both among my "civilian" friends and among other SPs around me). A recent study done in the Netherland seem to align with this anecdotal evidence:

According to their analysis of the numbers of patients seeking treatment in 2007 and 2008 at three sexual health clinics in South Limburg in the Netherlands, they found that
Overall, combined rates of Chlamydia and gonorrhea were just over 10 percent among straight people, 14 percent among gay men, just under 5 percent in female prostitutes, and 10.4 percent among swingers.
I haven't read the study and don't know the detail of its methodology and whether these results can be translated for the Canadian population (given for instance the different laws and practice around prostitution and health care in the two countries). But those caveats notwithstandings, the study does seem to confirm trends that I have seen around me.

On another but related note: rather than thinking in terms of "what are the risks" to make your decision regarding your sexual activities, it is usually recommended that you think in terms of "which consequences I am ready to deal with"?

In other words, rather than making your decisions of what do to and with whom based on a theoretical risk factor and magical thinking (we tend to assume that the bad stuff won't happen to us), assume that your partner IS infected, and adjust your practices accordingly.

Not all STIs carry the same consequences and health risks. Some, like Chlamydia and gonorrhea are easily treatable, assuming of course that you get tested regularly and get treated early on should you get infected. Others, like herpes, can only be treated but can never be cured, but is more of a social nuisance than a health risk. And then you have some like HIV/Aids which while not necessarily a death sentence anymore in Canada, has considerable and damaging effects on your health and other aspects of your life. Not all those STIs are transfered in the same ways, and therefore some practices are more or less risky for different STIs. So, the questions is which STIs you are ready to take the risk of being infected with or not? Based on your answer to this question, adjust your sexual practices accordingly.

You are not ready to deal with being infected with herpes (assuming you aren't already)? Then don't have casual sex with strangers (whether SPs or civilians), inform yourself about what herpes outbreaks look like and avoid any contact with someone who shows those symptoms, and use barriers when having sex (dental dams, gloves, condoms), and talk to any new partner about their health history and sexual practices. But even all those precautions can only reduce the risk, not make it nul. Herpes can only be diagnosed through a swab if they are sores present. Blood tests currently available are not useful because they cannot tell you where on your body you have HSV. And as mentioned earlier, while barriers provide some protection, they don't provide full protection. And while in most cases, infections occur when a partner has an outbreak, sometimes people can be infected even when there are no sores—this is called asymptomatic shedding.
 
Thank you very GenevieveLajoie for your post. It was very helpful and answered many of my questions. Finally I just want to know if anyone knows about the scenario I posted about in my OP: Say if client A has gonorrhea and infects the SP during their session and then 15 minutes later the SP is with client B. Will client B catch something guaranteed?
 
superrexdale said:
Thank you very GenevieveLajoie for your post. It was very helpful and answered many of my questions. Finally I just want to know if anyone knows about the scenario I posted about in my OP: Say if client A has gonorrhea and infects the SP during their session and then 15 minutes later the SP is with client B. Will client B catch something guaranteed?
You are still looking for absolutes, and I'm afraid that nobody can give you those.

There's a very easy way for you to protect yourself from being infected: cover your dick before putting it in someone's mouth, pussy, or asshole. That should reduce the risks considerably.
 
It is always something I fear.

superrexdale said:
I really want to see a particular SP for the first time but whats holding me back if the fear of herpes. I read that maybe 50% of sexually active people have genital herpes and since SPs see maybe 5 different men a week (a day sometimes) there's a good chance a SP might have it. Especially since condoms don't necessarily protect against them.

Also with bbbj with a well reviewed SP what are the chances of getting a STI? A scenario I would like to present is that of a SP who does back to back bookings. Say if client A has gonorrhea and infects the SP during their session and then 15 minutes later the SP is with client B. Will client B catch something guaranteed?

Are catching herpes, gonorrhea and other STIs pretty much going to happen if you receive a bbbj from a SP?

I guess what Im getting at is there any way to alleviate the worries of catching from SPs? The one I plan on seeing is well reviewed but goes back to back bookings.
 
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