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As a white male, I did not get a job due to my race and gender. What are my options?

Jessica Rain

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THE QUESTION
After interviewing for a senior role in a large, well-known Canadian organization, I was told by the recruiter‎ that, despite “hitting all the high notes from a capabilities and experience” perspective, their client ”couldn’t do it. White males just won’t cut it. I am so sorry as I wouldn’t have gone this far with you if I had known this beforehand.”

What, if anything, should I do about this? In the push for greater diversity, how should organizations protect themselves to ensure that their actions are not, in fact or in appearance, discriminating against one pool of candidates in favour of another?


THE FIRST ANSWER
George Cottrelle

Partner, Keel Cottrelle LLP

Everyone in Canada, including job applicants, is protected from discrimination in employment, including discrimination based on sex or race. Employers in many provinces are expressly prohibited from advertising jobs using discriminatory qualifications.

However, employers are permitted to implement employment equity programs, which will not constitute discrimination if the programs meet applicable statutory requirements, such as helping disadvantaged groups achieve equal opportunities.

Ontario’s Human Rights Commission has published guidelines for these special programs, including that employers communicate the existence of the program and any restrictions on eligible applicants. Most provinces allow, and a few require, special programs to be preapproved by the Human Rights Commission. Larger employers under federal jurisdiction are statutorily required to develop employment-equity plans to achieve employment equity.

The job applicant was told he had the required capabilities and experience, but was disqualified because he was a white male. This was prohibited discrimination, entitling the individual to file a complaint with the applicable human-rights commission or tribunal. The employer could defend itself with evidence of an appropriate program. But the existence of such a program should have been disclosed to the recruiter and applicants at the beginning of the selection process and, regardless, the employer’s response to the applicant was inappropriate.

Organizations implementing employment-equity programs should follow the requirements guidelines established by their Human Rights Commission.


THE SECOND ANSWER

Bill Howatt
Chief research and development officer, work force productivity, Morneau Shepell

The primary purpose of affirmative-action policies is to increase equity and employment opportunities for minorities. Those of us who study organizations’ cultures agree that increasing diversity and inclusion in the workplace is good for success and results. A diverse workplace is more aligned to the general population and creates conditions for attracting the right people to close talent gaps.

My understanding of organizations attempting to implement what sounds like, in your case, employment quotas must be careful not to breach opportunity for majorities, as they have equal protection. A lawyer who is an expert in employment law would be able to spell out what your rights are in this situation and if there are any grounds for a charge of discrimination.

One additional caution for recruiters or employers who are hiring anyone other than Caucasians and are openly sharing information like the employer you cite are advised to use discretion in how they communicate their intention, to mitigate the risk for increasing sentiments that fuel racial tensions. How this was explained to you was inappropriate and inflammatory. The right response would have been, “I’m sorry; they went in another direction.”

Ultimately, each employer will be best served by hiring the best available person to fill an open position, regardless of gender, ethnicity or religion. Human-resource strategies that include diversity and inclusion provide an opportunity to educate senior leaders on the kinds of formal and informal bias happening in the workplace and how these can influence decision-making. As society becomes more diverse, it only makes sense that organizations are advised to embrace diversity the same way society has.

Great peace by the G&M I think.

I have some thoughts an opinion but would love to open this up for debate before commenting personally.

So peeps, thoughts?
 
Hire the best applicant for the job not a sex, religion or color.

To do anything else is RACISM, SEXISM and or RELIGIOUS Bias
 
Rather than bitch about the government you elect better people.
Or at least vote people out of office,

That's what I attempt to do, but too many people are bought and paid for by our current government.

The most current example, Wynn is now going to force non unionised contractors to raise their pay scale closer to unionised contractors, that compete for government contracts.

Thus buying another block of voters, with my tax dollars, and meddling in private enterprise, with the usual negative results.

But who ever said that socialism doesn't work, well it does work for corrupt vote buying governments anyway.
 
That's what I attempt to do, but too many people are bought and paid for by our current government.

The most current example, Wynn is now going to force non unionised contractors to raise their pay scale closer to unionised contractors, that compete for government contracts.

Thus buying another block of voters, with my tax dollars, and meddling in private enterprise, with the usual negative results.

But who ever said that socialism doesn't work, well it does work for corrupt vote buying governments anyway.

Can we not turn this into a thread about our current politics and people in power. You did that with the BP thread too. I don't want this thread derailed so maybe start a thread about how much you hate the Wynne/Liberal Government.

Thanks
 
Nothing is free

Nothing is free

you can run for the office

There is no need for more candidates, but just a need for more people to not vote for the vote buying Libs.

That is the challenge when too may people are swayed by economic lies.
 
Can we not turn this into a thread about our current politics and people in power. You did that with the BP thread too. I don't want this thread derailed so maybe start a thread about how much you hate the Wynne/Liberal Government.

Thanks

I simply responded to this post,...

Originally Posted by papasmerf

Hire the best applicant for the job not a sex, religion or color.

To do anything else is RACISM, SEXISM and or RELIGIOUS Bias

If you don't agree that the government doesn't hire based only on "Hiring the best applicant for the job not a sex, religion or color".

Say so, but that is the subject, "a white male".

At least give your thoughts as to what some ones options are when governments don't "Hire the best applicant for the job not a sex, religion or color".

And if you actually followed the BP thread, you would see that I did NOT initiate politics into the thread.
 
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I simply responded to this post,...



If you don't agree that the government doesn't hire based only on "Hiring the best applicant for the job not a sex, religion or color".

Say so, but that is the subject, "a white male".

At least give your thoughts as to what some ones options are when governments don't "Hire the best applicant for the job not a sex, religion or color".

And if you actually followed the BP thread, you would see that I did NOT initiate politics into the thread.


Your posts mostly consist of Wynne/Liberal bashing for the most part. I would have preferred this thread not resemble the same thing.

This js is not about when or if the government does or doesn't not hire. This is about the general issues regarding affirmative action and proper program pocresses.
 
Governments are the worst offenders

Governments are the worst offenders

Your posts mostly consist of Wynne/Liberal bashing for the most part. I would have preferred this thread not resemble the same thing.

This js is not about when or if the government does or doesn't not hire. This is about the general issues regarding affirmative action and proper program pocresses.

Governments introduce programs that discriminate, in hiring practices, and promotions.

Just so happens, the current governments are Liberal.

Once again, what is you solution to governments being biased against white males ?
 
Governments introduce programs that discriminate, in hiring practices, and promotions.

Just so happens, the current governments are Liberal.

Once again, what is you solution to governments being biased against white males ?

And businesses????
 
Hire the best applicant for the job not a sex, religion or color.

To do anything else is RACISM, SEXISM and or RELIGIOUS Bias

This would be true if you could guarantee that the person making the decisions was not biased. It's unfortunate that this has not been the case.
 
Thank you for proving you will bring everything back to the government in one way or another.

Too bad too. I was hoping this would have been a good topic.
 
Thank you for proving you will bring everything back to the government in one way or another.

Too bad too. I was hoping this would have been a good topic.

I have simply given you an example of bias against white males in the work place.

If you do not want to acknowledge the most prominent example in this topic, by stating my input is about the governments involvment, and therefor , for some reason doesn't count, you really don't want to discuss the topic.

It is a good topic, and the subject pisses me off, but to leave out the governments roll in this, is not conducive to it being a good topic for discussion.
 
I have simply given you an example of bias against white males in the work place.

If you do not want to acknowledge the most prominent example in this topic, by stating my input is about the governments involvment, and therefor , for some reason doesn't count, you really don't want to discuss the topic.

It is a good topic, and the subject pisses me off, but to leave out the governments roll in this, is not conducive to it being a good topic for discussion.

You don't get it so just forget it. I can't be bothered explain it.
 
You don't get it so just forget it. I can't be bothered explain it.


That's a cop out Jessica, unless can explain why governments don't have anything to do with your thread, "As a white male, I did not get a job due to my race and gender"


Far more white males were not hired, or passed over for advancement by governments with the required qualifications, with a bias in favour of any other segment of the population, than any other employer.

If you can't be bothered to state why that is not part of the subject of your thread, then you are the one with a closed mind about your own thread.

If I am wrong to include government hiring and advancement practices of the government, just explain why, otherwise, don't be telling me I "don't get it".
 
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