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Being Green

Alomar

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Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the older woman, that she should bring her own grocery bags because plastic bags weren't good for the environment.

The woman apologized and explained, "We didn't have this green thing back in my earlier days."

The young clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations."

She was right -- our generation didn't have the green thing in its day.

Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they really were truely recycled.

But we didn't have the green thing back in our day.

Grocery stores bagged our groceries in brown paper bags, that we reused for numerous things, most memorable besides household garbage bags, was the use of brown paper bags as book covers for our schoolbooks. This was to ensure that public property, (the books provided for our use by the school) was not defaced by our scribblings. Then we were able to personalize our books on the brown paper bags.

But too bad we didn't do the green thing back then.

We walked up stairs, because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks.

But she was right. We didn't have the green thing in our day.

Back then, we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throwaway kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy-gobbling machine burning up 220 volts -- wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing.

But that young lady is right; we didn't have the green thing back in our day.

Back then, we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana. In the kitchen, we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us. When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity.

But she's right; we didn't have the green thing back then.

We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull.

But we didn't have the green thing back then.

Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service. We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 23,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest burger joint.

But isn't it sad the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the green thing back then?
 
Meh - I remember throwing my empty beer and whiskey bottles out the car window.
But we never drove drunk or littered.
 
Brings up a topic and A fact that we all know at least one person that does this. Don't you hate it when they keep putting bottles into their garbage bags?. Fine we all cheat with paper every so often but bottles should always be place in the blue-green bin. No?.
 
I recycle everything possible, compost food, etc

What I really want to know is. Was the cashier hot?
 
Does it matter?. Your dick is not good for a few weeks.

Man...are we talking about HOFs little hof again? That thing is so talked about it needs its own board. lol.

I sincerely hope you are doing well HOF and all issues have been resolved (I hope you have not lost your little green thing)

Looking forward to your reviews. (and then putting them on the list of women not to see...lol..Just kidding)
 
I've gotten this email numerous times from different people and every time I say to them:

Ok, yeah, they didn't have this "green" thing, they were 10x worse than we are now....gasp...how can you SAY that?

Well:
Sure, they didn't have this green thing, their cars got 2 miles to the gallon.
Sure, they didn't have this green thing, when they were done with something, they dumped it into landfill, that includes old cars....
Sure, they didn't have this green thing, they didn't recycle anything but beer and pop bottles.
Sure, they didn't have this green thing, their appliances used 10 times the amount of energy that those used today do
Sure, they didn't have this green thing, they dumped any waste chemicals right into their drinking water
Sure, they didn't have this green thing, they didn't even insulate their houses

need I go on?
 
I've gotten this email numerous times from different people and every time I say to them:

Ok, yeah, they didn't have this "green" thing, they were 10x worse than we are now....gasp...how can you SAY that?

Well:
Sure, they didn't have this green thing, their cars got 2 miles to the gallon.
Sure, they didn't have this green thing, when they were done with something, they dumped it into landfill, that includes old cars....
Sure, they didn't have this green thing, they didn't recycle anything but beer and pop bottles.
Sure, they didn't have this green thing, their appliances used 10 times the amount of energy that those used today do
Sure, they didn't have this green thing, they dumped any waste chemicals right into their drinking water
Sure, they didn't have this green thing, they didn't even insulate their houses

need I go on?

Go on I dare you :biggrin2:
 
ok, let's examine the milk bottles for example.

You expend energy going to the store and carting the bottles back home. HOw many times have you broken one? I know my family broke more than a few.
then, you expend energy taking those same bottles back to the store.
The store expends energy sorting and handling them and packaging them up to be shipped BACK to the various dozens of suppliers
THose suppliers then expend energy handling those bottles and putting them into a pretty much separate area to wash , sterilize and clean them.
THen they ship them back to the store to start the cycle all over again.

Now you may say, but at least they're reused...and they'd have to handle them anyways...but nope, with cardboard cartons they are only handled ONCE...then you take into consideration the amount of energy required to produce a cardboard carton vs a glass bottle. Let me tell you, it takes a tremendous amount of energy to produce glass, then form it into a bottle. Much more than cardboard....

Then you have the broken bottles.....totally wasted energy in producing said bottles.....

Now let's say there are plastic bottles. Plastic can be reformed dozens of times as long as it isn't overheated during the process. In fact, you send a plastic bottle into a chipper and the pellets can be bulk washed, and sent back into the injection molder to be formed into another item. I was at a plastics show and they had set up an injection molder making buckets.....at one end, they had a chipper, and out the other end came a bucket. It went on like that for a week with zero loss of integrity or material.....well, people were stealing the buckets lol.....

Now with milk in glass bottles...people would normally wash them at home because if they didn't, they'd stink in no time. Now you're wasting water washing them at home, knowing they had to be washed yet again at the plant. That's a LOT of water.....
 
ok, let's examine the milk bottles for example.

You expend energy going to the store and carting the bottles back home. HOw many times have you broken one? I know my family broke more than a few.
then, you expend energy taking those same bottles back to the store.
The store expends energy sorting and handling them and packaging them up to be shipped BACK to the various dozens of suppliers
THose suppliers then expend energy handling those bottles and putting them into a pretty much separate area to wash , sterilize and clean them.
THen they ship them back to the store to start the cycle all over again.

Now you may say, but at least they're reused...and they'd have to handle them anyways...but nope, with cardboard cartons they are only handled ONCE...then you take into consideration the amount of energy required to produce a cardboard carton vs a glass bottle. Let me tell you, it takes a tremendous amount of energy to produce glass, then form it into a bottle. Much more than cardboard....

Then you have the broken bottles.....totally wasted energy in producing said bottles.....

Now let's say there are plastic bottles. Plastic can be reformed dozens of times as long as it isn't overheated during the process. In fact, you send a plastic bottle into a chipper and the pellets can be bulk washed, and sent back into the injection molder to be formed into another item. I was at a plastics show and they had set up an injection molder making buckets.....at one end, they had a chipper, and out the other end came a bucket. It went on like that for a week with zero loss of integrity or material.....well, people were stealing the buckets lol.....

Now with milk in glass bottles...people would normally wash them at home because if they didn't, they'd stink in no time. Now you're wasting water washing them at home, knowing they had to be washed yet again at the plant. That's a LOT of water.....

Wow I am scared to ask for more :biggrin2:
 
I've gotten this email numerous times from different people and every time I say to them:

Ok, yeah, they didn't have this "green" thing, they were 10x worse than we are now....gasp...how can you SAY that?

Well:
Sure, they didn't have this green thing, their cars got 2 miles to the gallon.
Sure, they didn't have this green thing, when they were done with something, they dumped it into landfill, that includes old cars....
Sure, they didn't have this green thing, they didn't recycle anything but beer and pop bottles.
Sure, they didn't have this green thing, their appliances used 10 times the amount of energy that those used today do
Sure, they didn't have this green thing, they dumped any waste chemicals right into their drinking water
Sure, they didn't have this green thing, they didn't even insulate their houses

need I go on?

Yes and those goofy bastards bought new telephones and gadgets by the tens of millions because the screen was 5 mm bigger and then had to replace all their patchcords because the new phone had a different connector than the old one.
 
Let's not forget the nasty bitch named Ethyl who introduced wonderful lead into our atmosphere.
 
Yes and those goofy bastards bought new telephones and gadgets by the tens of millions because the screen was 5 mm bigger and then had to replace all their patchcords because the new phone had a different connector than the old one.

while you have a point, you also have to remember that just about everything back in the day consumed more material to produce than what we do now. For eg: I bet an "average" north american car in the '50s and '60s had enough steel in it to produce 2 or maybe 3 cars today. I mean, the bumper alone from a '57 chev belair has enough steel to produce a complete kia lol....

And let's not skip tvs......remember those old behemoth zenith console tvs?

Yes, we do consume waaaayyyyyy too much these days, but that isn't the point......the point of the op (and emails) was that everything was so much greener back in the day and it simply isn't true....

I read somewhere that the energy consumed during the second world war equally all the evergy consumed by humanity to date.....
 
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